A Race Pakistan Cannot Possibly Win

[SQ8]

Pakistan is doomed!
The sky will fall on them!
Thank you Jinnah for ridding us of katwas!
Typical dipshit Indian articles and responses.

Let it come to nuclear war and we’ll see who stands where.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

I don't know what kind of brainwashed creature wrote it.
Pakistan have already upgraded its artillery and bought new guns from turkey.

We are also purchasing submarines from China.

We lag in air defence only but with less strategic depth our less range air defence systems are more than enough to protect our airspace.
India is a big country so it need more and greater range air defence systems.

 

[Osiris]

Oh spot the dumb indian who doesnt even realise that after 1000 years of muslim rule pakistan was carved out of india and we lost. Now they are chinging history and telling you it wsnst india.
But i guess you fart laser weapons and poop in the open today as you did in vedic india.....oh sorry there was no india then.

So how does it feel to be a dumb loser.

Feels, as if I were a Pakistani.

 

[Trango Towers]

Feels, as if I were a Pakistani.

you can never be a Pakistani...we can smell an Indian a mile off.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Way off, typical shit analysis about Pakistan coming out of India. We have secured our existence on much cheaper terms than the cost of these high tech but futile weapons India is amassing.

A credible deterrence isn’t going to bankrupt us. It’s our insurance policy on he state of Pakistan, and guess what? YOU are the collateral on said policy, you being Indian people and the state.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Feels, as if I were a Pakistani.

Indians come in hordes onto Pakistani websites, their politicians and journalists screech about Pakistan day and night, and they have to invent fake operations to make people think they can do anything

"b-b-but ve r winnars!!"

 

[khail007]

Fencing of border with Pakistan - Insecurity still exists.
Nuclear detonation - Insecurity still exists.
Israeli Phalcon purchased ... Insecurity still exists.
Development of state of the art missiles system ... Insecurity still exists.
Satellites sent to keep an eye on Pakistan ... Insecurity still exists.
PO signed for S-400 ... Insecurity still exists.
Arihant successfully completed the sea trials ... Insecurity will exist.
Never ending Insecurity.
Only way to end Insecurity - maintain good relations with regional stakeholders; do not bully the weak; do not pose as cop of region.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Pakistan is doomed!
The sky will fall on them!
Thank you Jinnah for ridding us of katwas!
Typical dipshit Indian articles and responses.

Let it come to nuclear war and we’ll see who stands where.

Well, in 2018 and Gen 4 Warfare, if any nation was bankrupt, its quite synonymous to be practically "doomed".

Im not really sure what is more dangerous in Pakistan,s context - A Bad Situation or the Perception of A Good Situation.

I wish Pakistan could think like South Korea. Real power lies in a robust Economy.

As an Indian, We love to compare and hve set China as a Role Model. We dont wish to beat china in war but matach lr get closer to their Economic Achievements...Thats why in India people no longer talk about nukes and missiles rather Mangalyaan... and how can we match SpaceX .

10 years have passed and Im yet to see pakistani guys coming up and feeling pride over anything beyond Nukes or keeping India at bay.

 

[SQ8]

Indians come in hordes onto Pakistani websites, their politicians and journalists screech about Pakistan day and night, and they have to invent fake operations to make people think they can do anything

"b-b-but ve r winnars!!"

It shows you who is really obsessed with who

Well, in 2018 and Gen 4 Warfare, if any nation was bankrupt, its quite synonymous to be practically "doomed".

Im not really sure what is more dangerous in Pakistan,s context - A Bad Situation or the Perception of A Good Situation.

I wish Pakistan could think like South Korea. Real power lies in a robust Economy.

As an Indian, We love to compare and hve set China as a Role Model. We dont wish to beat china in war but matach lr get closer to their Economic Achievements...Thats why in India people no longer talk about nukes and missiles rather Mangalyaan... and how can we match SpaceX .

10 years have passed and Im yet to see pakistani guys coming up and feeling pride over anything beyond Nukes or keeping India at bay.

yet all the news in Pakistan and mostly the attention of Pakistani discussion is the economy; isnt it odd that when Indians come here, they only bring with them cries of war yet hypocritically expect us to respond with talk of economy to them?

 

[Hellfire]

You cleverly skipped our massive ship building industry, our capabilities in Radar and EW system development. Our navy currently has more that 40 ships under construction within India. 7 more P17A frigates have also entered production + construction of 16 ASW shallow water craft will soon enter construction phase. Also deal for local manufacturing of Grigorovich class frigate was also signed today.

Also we can locally produced helicopters. India currently operates 200+ locally made Dhruv. Order for 80 more were placed by Armed forces in last two years.76 Rudra are also on order. LCH has also entered production this year and we will produce 169 of them. LUH which had its first flight two years ago is expected to be produced in numbers exceeding 300. HAL has started working on 12 ton IMRH helicopter which is expected to fly in next decade.

As for fifth generation fighter jet we already have AMCA program. We have already started working on avionics of AMCA. Mission control computer is under development as of now.

Here is DRDO developed Ultra Wide Band (ULB) Radar Absorbing Skin Prototypes

AMCA basic simulator for testing flight control software.

There was also a video showing testing of internal weapon bays for AMCA but the video was deleted by YouTube.

In missile tech we already have capability to develop different types of seekers including the miniaturised ones.

@Anik101

Please. Everything is answered by NASR & MIRVs. Now do not ask how will they have enough warheads to place in both NASR and MIRVS to make an impact on the Pivot Corps which will be entering 48 hours prior to Strike Corps, let alone the Strike Corps and the Armoured Divisions.

To quote Col Narendar Singh, Ph.D.* from his work "Nuclear Option - Calling the Pakistani Bluff"



Imagery analysis of the Nasr missile suggests that its diameter is 30 centimetres (about 12 inches) across and could therefore be able to carry a very compact nuclear warhead comparable to the U.S. W-33 nuclear artillery shell that has a yield varying from less than 1 kiloton to about 10 kilotons. 43 Simulations of a 10-kiloton explosion produced a peak static overpressure of 33.35 psi at 370 meters (about 405 yards). This overpressure only displaced a tank by “about 2.5 meters with acceleration sufficient to inflict moderate damage to external fittings such as track guards, but the tank was able to be driven off and its gun fired after sand and debris had been removed from the barrel,” according to the 1994 study Nuclear Weapons: Principles, Effects and Survivability. Incapacitating a tank requires an overpressure of about 45 psi. [Charles S. Grace, Nuclear Weapons: Principles, Effects and Survivability (London: Brassey’s, 1994), 58.] A 1-kiloton explosion at a height of about 150 meters (about 492 feet) results in “overpressures of 45 psi at horizontal distances from ground zero as large as about 170 meters . . . then a 15 kt burst at a height of about 400 m would generate an overpressure of 3 atm up [45 psi] to a distance of about 420 meters, i.e., over an area of 0.55 km.” One 15-kiloton weapon should destroy about 55 tanks, if the tanks are spaced at 100 meters (about 328 feet) apart. (See table 1 for another estimate of the effects on tanks separated by 100 meters.)

If tanks are spaced at 300 meters (or 984 feet) apart, the number of weapons necessary to achieve 55 so-called kills rises from one to eight. By this calculation, destroying a well-dispersed force of 500 tanks would likely require 100 X15-kiloton weapons. [Charles S. Grace, Nuclear Weapons: Principles, Effects and Survivability (London: Brassey’s, 1994), 58.] Although the depth of a tank formation would depend on the relative spacing between each tank, such as “50 meters apart in rows separated by 250 meters (the effective spacing would be 120 meters),” a tank force expecting a nuclear attack would be more dispersed, which would also reduce the immediate radiation effects on the tank crews. Another lower estimate posits that if “tanks were separated by even greater distances, it would require the use of over 80 nuclear weapons of 15 kt yield each to disable or kill the crews in a force of 1000 tanks.” [Charles S. Grace, Nuclear Weapons: Principles, Effects and Survivability (London: Brassey’s, 1994), 58.] According to a 2001 estimate by Ashley J. Tellis, Pakistan would need “37 weapons of 15 kt (or 57 weapons of 8 kt) to operationally disable an Indian armored division.” [Ashley J. Tellis, India’s Emerging Nuclear Posture: Between Recessed Deterrent and Ready Arsenal (Santa Monica, CA: RAND Corporation, 2001), 133–34.]

Table 1: The Effects of Nuclear Weapons Against Tanks Separated by 100 Meters
Yield (kilotons) Number of tanks destroyed by blast Number of tank crews disabled by radiation
15 64 360
10 48 290
5 32 190
1 10 110
110
Source: A. H. Nayyar and Zia Mian, “Pakistan and the Nasr Missile: Searching for a Method in the Madness,” Economic and Political Weekly 50, no. 39 (September 2015), http://www.epw.in/system/files/pdf/2015_50/39/Pakistan_and_the_Nasr_Missile.pdf.



Cross posting has done in the alignments, so, excuse me for that.

 

[Storm Force]

There's an old saying in our part of the world, roughly translated it reads, 'By loading dozens of books on a Donkey, doesn't make the animal a professor'.
The Indians can acquire or purchase everything under the Sun but at the end of the day, they will have to operate those systems....the less said the better.

What load of nonsense post.

 

[Tshering22]

It is really immature of many writers to keep writing the same old thing despite knowing the answers well. There is an old saying "if you are the best in the room, then you are in the wrong room". This quote goes for people who seek continuous improvement in everything they do.

India must time and again focus its attention and get inspired by Chinese building capability, Israeli national security structure, Japanese national character and German efficiency.

We need to set our bars higher.

 

[JohnWick]

What load of nonsense post.

For nonsense indians

 

[MilSpec]

Pakistan have cost effective counter measure to every Indian systems.

Even the statue?

India can get all the fancy tools it wants, if they ever manage to successfully invade Pakistan, Shaheen, Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Abdali, Ababeel, Raad and Babur will make short work of them and their kit.

Add Sarfaraz, Shadab, Hasan and wahab, you might have a chance at the next Asia cup. what say @Oscar

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Arihant adds nothing.

Nor are the 100s of millions of the Indian blokes!!!! According to the Indian Defense Review, their military academies can't find prospective candidates!!!!! No wonder their pilot to a/c ratio is 0.8!!!!! Numerically speaking, it's 125% easier for them to buy a Rafael fighter plane than to train a fighter pilot....

..... yeah okay.. we can't win.... anything else?

If we accept that we can't win will it stop Gangadeshis from this lunatic obsession about Pakistan?

Unfortunately not!!!! Probably you possess their most coveted staffs....