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27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

I don't condone this --- but wasn't it your Army shelling/shooting civilians around this area up till last night?

How would I know? Did either DGMO talk to me? The news reports said that around dawn, a violent bombardment started from the Pakistani side, and numerous villagers have been injured and many more evacuated. Who started it? Can you give me any kind of authentic information?

By all accounts, Modi's maniacal antics before elections were totally unwarranted and extremely dangerous. I hope he/the frenzied India media/Hindutva psychopaths are all happy now.

First, you make a serious mistake if you think that every non-Hindutva Indian, every part of Indian media, and every Indian not a psychopath sighed heavily, and turned to the sports page when our constables were killed.

There was genuine pain, and even in the minds and hearts of those of us who have genuine hopes of living in peace with the Pakistani people, there was disappointment at yet another demonstration of the use of 'non-state actors' by Pakistan as war formations. There was a genuine and well-founded thought wondering where this would stop.

Try to see what you have left undone, from the murderous attack on Mumbai onwards, and try to see that a little humility and introspection on the part of Pakistanis is overdue.
 
This is not good, captured soldier must be treated well.....I don't like it even our religion don't allow us.
Relax - if i see an indian pilot i beat the hell out of him as well - its normal.
Good thing he is not dead -
 
Any source to back that up? There was only one crash site on Pakistan's side, angry Kashmiris flooded the area and began beating up the pilot before the army came in and rescued him.

Also F-16s were not used in this operation.
Pak Army, not only defending Pakistan, but defending Indians too :cheesy::pakistan::pakistan::pakistan:
 
Dont tell us about war & casualties, we have been fighting the war for the last 15 years with proxies & both the soldiers + civilians are battle harden, so what makes you think we r not ready .... but war bring nothing except pain & suffering.. i hope sense prevails here ...

We are just two anonymous guys on an online forum. Who knows what's coming. However the previous line from govt of India was that non military installations were targeted. This time in MEA briefing AVM accompanied the MEA official. This gives it a military dimension.

The de escalation option was given earlier but your airforce fed up with all the taunts decided to attack military installations in morning. That was escalating. So military assets would now become legit targets.
 
Anyone can see this is no Delta Wing of a MiG-21.


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it is mig-21 look again here clearly nose section of mig-21

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No, none, but what has been shown? There is a picture, and I can't figure out who is who.

The video apparently of the roughing up of a person by locals, another video apparently of an airforce officer named Abhi, blindfolded, tied with hands behind his back, and bleeding, are all there. In the second, the detenu asks, after giving his name, rank and serial number, if he is in the custody of the PA, but there is no answer on the video
There was no beating, no dragging of the officer by the Pakistan army, he was walked calmly towards the vehicle. As for tied hands, thats a standard procedure. You cant expect him to be freely roaming.
 
India says it's MIG21 has shot down one Pakistani fighter jet, and has lost one MIG21 along it's pilot, is there any actual proof to counter it?
No evidence of any downed Pakistani jet, they claimed it was an F-16 when no F-16 was involved in the operation, There was only one crash site on the Pakistani side that was flooded by angry Kashmiris, the pilot was saved by soldiers.

The other Indian jet crashed in IoK, their two pilots ejected and landed in Pakistan area and are currently in critical condition at CM hospital.
 

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