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For first time in last 500 years, China is stronger then Russia, who is to blame?

Who is to blame?

  • Gorbachev reforms

  • Yeltsin failed capitalism

  • Putin economy dependency on natural resources


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This is from 2000 19 years ago and Its still going on like I said This could lead to tensions on the near future I wish the best but the Russians are not gonna give up same with the Chinese both are gonna defend their interests even if they clash or no clash

Was this what you were referring to?
I wonder if the Chinese members on here agree with this...

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Gorbachev tried his best to restore the USSR but was blackmailed, by the US Yeltsin well we all know how he was
Gorbachev was to blame, You see, Soviets were like: We are going to invade and occupy other people's country and start cracking down on people.
Then the Gorbachev was like: I'm going to introduce democracy into this system, Wonder what's going to happen?
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Gorbachev was to blame, You see, Soviets were like: We are going to invade and occupy other people's country and start cracking down on people.
Then the Gorbachev was like: I'm going to introduce democracy into this system, Wonder what's going to happen?
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That wasnt Gorbachev fault he came in power in 1985 USSR invaded Afg in 1979 under the drunkard Leonid Breznev Gorbachev was blackmailed he wanted to save USSR but failed the past leadership screwed up his reforms
 
Can you put some info or just use "LOL" as 15 old Youtube teen?



Russian natural resources are 75 trillion, China"s two times smaller with 30 trillion. So literary your facts are not right.

About population
Russian empire was three times smaller in terms of population but it kicks China ***.

Soviet Union was three times smaller in population too but it was superpower while China was a dirty poor country.

Well Russia has been treated as the black sheep of the European family since 1917. If they don't want to come back into the fold we aren't going to do them any favors.

People don't realize it is just two white men on a beach arguing with each other. Russia in black, the rest of the "European world" in white, and everybody else in the world on that ship.. Maybe he has found his loophole in China. He gets up and goes back to his side of the island.
 
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Well Russia has been treated as the black sheep of the European family since 1917. If they don't want to come back in the fold we aren't going to do them any favors.

People don't realize it is just two white men on a beach arguing with each other. Russia in black and the rest of the "European'world" in white. Maybe he has found his loophole in China.

I will go further tbh Russia throughout European history was always the other or odd duckling of bunch some White Nationalists on storm front consider them to mongrels lol
 
If Russia cant revive its power like it did in early 19th century or after WW2, then i will favor USA superpower status rather then Chinese. Dont believe them.

They torture their own citizens (Tiananmen massacre, mass labour camps) what will stop them from torturing other nations?

How long you expect a certain country to be far more powerful than a far more populated country is the true question.

Over time with enough peace and stability, the far more populated country is simply going to become far more powerful relative to its population...compared to some earlier snapshot in history where whatever factors created something to skew away.

The skewing goes both ways too, just look at Russia's nuclear stockpile and military strength still....it is from the earlier era where it primed and peaked....and that (along with sheer land + resource size) makes it very competitive today (relative to its population) in the hard power metric.
 
There should have been a civil war to keep Gorbachev and communism. With a crack down on Western filth entering Russian and Soviet lifestyles.

 
There should have been a civil war to keep Gorbachev and communism. With a crack down on Western filth entering Russian and Soviet lifestyles.


Communism. The fine idea behind misery in Russia, East Germany and Cuba.

You should know Communism and Marxism don't like the idea of religion.
 
There are trying to do the same to Iran. Glasnost and perestroika. (((trust us))) (((we care about you)))

Communism. The fine idea behind misery in Russia, East Germany and Cuba.

You should know Communism and Marxism don't like the idea of religion.

Not the latter years of the Soviet Union, there were Muslim Generals in the Soviet Union. Under Lenin and Stalin times were bad. Gorbachev was a great guy who inherited a system with some flaws, but listened to the voices of Westerners who wanted him to fail, and so Gorbachev was forced out to prevent a civil war.

China does great with Communism.
 
There are trying to do the same to Iran. Glasnost and perestroika. (((trust us))) (((we care about you)))



Not the latter years of the Soviet Union, there were Muslim Generals in the Soviet Union. Under Lenin and Stalin times were bad. Gorbachev was a great guy who inherited a system with some flaws, but listened to the voices of Westerners who wanted him to fail, and so Gorbachev was forced out to prevent a civil war.

China does great with Communism.

I feel bad for Gorbie it was all Breznev thst fcked up the whole thing in Afghanistan
 
Russian govt is puppet of israel and their laws and environment not support new startups, entrepreneurship and innovative businesses , they will only remain limited to oil and gas exports like gcc arab countries and weapon manufacturing which in which they will ultimately lag behind other powers due to less funds available for Rand D and mass production of high technology weapons. They have failed to diversify their economy and industry which has caused economic slowdown .They are lacking IT industry like microsoft,apple,tesla,google,huaweiand ecommerce giants amazon,alibaba etclike u.s and china have and these days technology based companies have surpassed oil and gas companies in revenue and net worth
 

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