The PAF is set to receive a batch of Egyptian Air Force Mirage-Vs

[TsAr]

The next time it will be Plan B. The IAF is already demonstrating a clear lack of initiative with regards to thheir incursions into Paklands. I guess " once butten twice shy".
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The indians have already started strengthening their SAM defenses. Just yesterday I was reading that an order has been placed for Akash systems. But the preparation are also going on this side of the border as well.

 

[Tipu7]

My dear Sir that plan has gone ghudday line for at least the last 2 decades if not longer. I think PAF is milking theM3/5 cow till the udders come into their hands. So you may yet see them in use for the next 10 years in limited numbers.
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Sir PAF will be 'mirage free' by 2025. Some units, however, will remain in reserves for strategic strike role.

 

[ziaulislam]

Sir PAF will be 'mirage free' by 2025. Some units, however, will remain in reserves for strategic strike role.

Thats only possible if PAF decides to brung the numbers down to 250 which is barely 15 squardons
Per last chief he wants 400 ac..
Even if we assume 350/19 squardons PAF will be short of 100..

Where are these 100 going to come..unless we get lucky and uncle sam generous about used f16s things look very gloomy

Thunders so far will stop at 183 around 2024, unless block 4 is planned

In nutshell PAF needs at least 100 & preferably 150 additional fighters apart from planned jf17 to get rid of mirage and i dont see that happening till 2030-35

This will fulfill needs;
(1) Support currently fleet spare cannibalize
(2) Out of 36 some have been upgraded in 2008 with advance capabilities.
(3) Maybe PAF is somehow seems not comfortable with JF-17 for deep strike and nuke roles. These upgraded mirages will fulfill the roles.

Disagree about 3..its numbers game

 

[Tipu7]

Thats only possible if PAF decides to brung the numbers down to 250 which is barely 15 squardons
Per last chief he wants 400 ac..
Even if we assume 350/19 squardons PAF will be short of 100..

Where are these 100 going to come..unless we get lucky and uncle sam generous about used f16s things look very gloomy

Thunders so far will stop at 183 around 2024, unless block 4 is planned

In nutshell PAF needs at least 100 & preferably 150 additional fighters apart from planned jf17 to get rid of mirage and i dont see that happening till 2030-35

Don't consider the numbers of Mirages as they won't be replaced one on one.
There are roughly 7 squadrons of Mirages, and will be replaced by 7 squadrons of better option.

 

[New World]

Don't consider the numbers of Mirages as they won't be replaced one on one.
There are roughly 7 squadrons of Mirages, and will be replaced by 7 squadrons of better option.

Is there any news of PN getting fighter jets..
@Khafee @Zarvan @Rashid Mahmood

 

[Tipu7]

Is there any news of PN getting fighter jets..
@Khafee @Zarvan @Rashid Mahmood

No fighter jets for PN

 

[ziaulislam]

Don't consider the numbers of Mirages as they won't be replaced one on one.
There are roughly 7 squadrons of Mirages, and will be replaced by 7 squadrons of better option.

how come 250 aircraft will constitute 19 squadrons..that is barely 12 aircraft a squardon..?

 

[Signalian]

Well, PAF was once planning to develop combination of F16, Jf17 and M2K. Jf17 was suppose to replace F7P/PG fleet entirely and M2K were meant to replace all Mirage III/V.

Arrival of JF-17 block-III has conveniently pushed aside M2K and J-10.
Stealth should be inducted next.

 

[araz]

Sir PAF will be 'mirage free' by 2025. Some units, however, will remain in reserves for strategic strike role.

If the numbers being produced by PAF of JFT are true we will only be able to retire the PGs by 2025. Unless we get a separate bird or the 16s come in we are looking at running with M3/5s till 2030. This remains my assessment so I could be wrong.

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[Ark_Angel]

Sir PAF will be 'mirage free' by 2025. Some units, however, will remain in reserves for strategic strike role.

False assumption. Deltas to Roll on till 2032.

 

[M.Kamran_Pak]

Thats only possible if PAF decides to brung the numbers down to 250 which is barely 15 squardons
Per last chief he wants 400 ac..
Even if we assume 350/19 squardons PAF will be short of 100..

Where are these 100 going to come..unless we get lucky and uncle sam generous about used f16s things look very gloomy

Thunders so far will stop at 183 around 2024, unless block 4 is planned

In nutshell PAF needs at least 100 & preferably 150 additional fighters apart from planned jf17 to get rid of mirage and i dont see that happening till 2030-35


Disagree about 3..its numbers game

It's not "only" about numbers.... Initially JF was envisioned to replace all old airframes like A-6, F-7 Mirages etc. But JF is not dedicated deep strike fighter and it cannot match Mirage deep strike or strategic roles.
If you observe the block 2 and upcoming block 3 upgrades are focused on BVR, WVR, air defense and air to air battles. That shows PAF is not comfortable with JF as deep strike roles. Till any new platform (long range/medium weight) or project Azm Mirages are here to stay and fulfill the role of strategic and deep strike missions.

 

[aziqbal]

for old mirages spares are hard to find and the one we do get from Dassault cost a fortune

these are for spares which is good

 

[Ark_Angel]

It's not "only" about numbers.... Initially JF was envisioned to replace all old airframes like A-6, F-7 Mirages etc. But JF is not dedicated deep strike fighter and it cannot match Mirage deep strike or strategic roles.
If you observe the block 2 and upcoming block 3 upgrades are focused on BVR, WVR, air defense and air to air battles. That shows PAF is not comfortable with JF as deep strike roles. Till any new platform (long range/medium weight) or project Azm Mirages are here to stay and fulfill the role of strategic and deep strike missions.

Thunder was supposed to replace all of the mentioned above fighters as long as it was getting a French Engine which was initially committed to by the French in the year 2000-2001. All of the design was around that Engine and so was the the expectation to a certain extent. When the French ditched, a lot of things changed.

 

[khanasifm]

False assumption. Deltas to Roll on till 2032.

It just the time required to produce the number of aircraft to replace and $$ available currently averaging one sqn per year and around 11 more f-7p/pg and mirage sqn left so at last 11 years

 

[Super Falcon]

Don't consider the numbers of Mirages as they won't be replaced one on one.
There are roughly 7 squadrons of Mirages, and will be replaced by 7 squadrons of better option.

Forget replacing oaf will keep these idiot jets untill they start killing pilots


Chalti ka nam gadi is a theory of paf untill they fly lets fly no matter what they becom ed a target practice