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JF-17 vs Rafale: Why Pakistani JF-17 Thunder Poses A Serious Threat To Indian Rafale Fighter Jets?

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According to the Global Times and secondary research by the EurAsian Times, the latest, powered-up version of the JF-17 fighter jet reportedly features technologies from China’s high-end J-20 fighter jet that will immensely boost its combat efficiency.

According to pictures disseminated on various social media platform, the JF-17 aircraft is installed with many commercial off-the-shelf technologies from the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China.

These include a new and larger holographic wide-angle head-up display and integrated cockpit display comparable to the one used by the J-20, in addition to an advanced infrared missile approach warning system used by J-20 fighter jets.


Analysts said the new additions to the JF-17 can give pilots more situational awareness, permitting them to concentrate more on combat instead of flying the aircraft. In March 2019, Yang Wei, chief designer of the fighter jet, said development and production of the JF-17 Block 3 were underway, and the third block will see the JF-17’s information-based warfare capability and weapons enhanced.


PL-15 Missiles For JF-17 ::

The reports regarding the deployment of longer-ranged Chinese PL-15 missiles on an upgraded JF-17 jet have caused anxiety in the Indian Air Force. Global Times earlier reported that the upgraded JF-17 will host an infrared search and track system along with a cross-section radar that lessens the pseudo-stealthy airframe. The PL-15’s beyond visual range missile has reportedly also caused serious worry in the Pentagon.

The PL-15’s striking range in actual aerial engagements is definitely lower than the maximum range 300 km but is nevertheless much greater than its US’ AIM-120 AMRAAM estimated to be approximately 180 km.

US general Herbert Carlisle voiced serious concerns in 2015 when the development of the PL-15 entered the public domain: “Look at our adversaries and what they’re developing, things like the PL-15 and the range of that weapon.” General Carlisle raised the same issue in an interview with FlightGlobal: “The PL-15 and the range of that missile, we’ve got to be able to out-stick that missile.”

The PL-15 missile, which is a radar-guided weapon, is advertised as having a greater range than both US-built AMRAAM and the Russian R-77, which is in service with the Indian Air Force.

With a length of over 4metres, the PL-15 is much longer than the AMRAAM and has a powerful radar and rocket motor. Experts writing for EurAsian Times maintain that the fundamental role of the PL-15 is to demolish ‘high-value’ targets such as airborne early-warning aircraft (AWACS) and aerial refuelling aircraft, which could handicap any opponent including the US.

The PL-15 uses a conventional rocket motor, unlike the Meteor missile which will be used by the Rafale fighter jets for the IAF. The Meteor has a stated range of “well in excess of 150km” according to its manufacturers but is also smaller in length than the PL-15.

Therefore, experts talking to the EurAsian Times conclude that the PL-15 has greater range than the Meteor on account of its higher fuel capacity and poses a serious threat to the French origin jets which will be operated by the Indian Air Force.


https://eurasiantimes.com/jf-17-vs-...serious-threat-to-indian-rafale-fighter-jets/
 
Interestingly, every other news item from India especially is talking about upcoming JF-17 Block-III model and that doesn't looks like just a theoretical approach based upon open information from public domain. India is well in knowledge as what thunder Block-II did on 27th February and can imagine what Block-III can be. On other note, IAF wants more money for quantity of latest gadgets in more numbers fearing the outcome when it is about quality and skills.

Indian Air Force is just shying away to accept it openly in regard to February, 2019 but has to come with twists & more of media articles as a bargain for more budget in view of a capable platform like JF-17s. Why don't we hear IAF preparing or referring to F-16s possible Block-70/72? Of-course, they do know what the upcoming Block-III is going to do. To enforce such argument, one can see that despite being upgraded the fleet and purchasing latest Rafale with all the goodies, IAF still need more & more and that is not just the corruption but fear as well.

IAF chief has already seen it coming and its like preparing excuses in advance either not to be bothered by Indian Establishment for any action or in-case of face-off, shall never be blamed for any losses. A planned homework with demand of more & more weapons which is not going to be fulfilled soon hence, there is a lot of time for preparedness. I don't think that PAF will stop at JF-17 Block-III only.
 
Interestingly, every other news item from India especially is talking about upcoming JF-17 Block-III model and that doesn't looks like just a theoretical approach based upon open information from public domain. India is well in knowledge as what thunder Block-II did on 27th February and can imagine what Block-III can be. On other note, IAF wants more money for quantity of latest gadgets in more numbers fearing the outcome when it is about quality and skills.

Indian Air Force is just shying away to accept it openly in regard to February, 2019 but has to come with twists & more of media articles as a bargain for more budget in view of a capable platform like JF-17s. Why don't we hear IAF preparing or referring to F-16s possible Block-70/72? Of-course, they do know what the upcoming Block-III is going to do. To enforce such argument, one can see that despite being upgraded the fleet and purchasing latest Rafale with all the goodies, IAF still need more & more and that is not just the corruption but fear as well.

IAF chief has already seen it coming and its like preparing excuses in advance either not to be bothered by Indian Establishment for any action or in-case of face-off, shall never be blamed for any losses. A planned homework with demand of more & more weapons which is not going to be fulfilled soon hence, there is a lot of time for preparedness. I don't think that PAF will stop at JF-17 Block-III only.
I think along with working on BLOCK III. PAF should seriously start looking for AESA Radar for BLOCK I and II Jets and also integrating PL 15 in them. Also dual racks for BVR
 
I think along with working on BLOCK III. PAF should seriously start looking for AESA Radar for BLOCK I and II Jets and also integrating PL 15 in them. Also dual racks for BVR

Zarvan Bhai: I wouldn't go in detail like a list but AESA for Block-II isn't an issue if PAF wants it to be incorporated. It's all about finances and then their respective roles. Block-Is are now Block-II (read because they are planned to be upgraded and there will be no Block-I). An AESA for Block-II nose is already been demonstrated and who knows, by the way. There was no Block-III in February, 2019 yet after an year, IAF is coming out of shock and started to talk some sense but still shying to acknowledge and that is not their fault.
 
Zarvan Bhai: I wouldn't go in detail like a list but AESA for Block-II isn't an issue if PAF wants it to be incorporated. It's all about finances and then their respective roles. Block-Is are now Block-II (read because they are planned to be upgraded and there will be no Block-I). An AESA for Block-II nose is already been demonstrated and who knows, by the way. There was no Block-III in February, 2019 yet after an year, IAF is coming out of shock and started to talk some sense but still shying to acknowledge and that is not their fault.

To be honest. If I was a shrewd guy and in-charge of Jf-17 project, I would constantly play down its capabilities and allow Indians to feel satisfied and complacent. Probably even hire few people to write articles in media to play down its capabilities.
 
To be honest. If I was a shrewd guy and in-charge of Jf-17 project, I would constantly play down its capabilities and allow Indians to feel satisfied and complacent. Probably even hire few people to write articles in media to play down its capabilities.

Sir, let me be honest as well that it's us, the people that gets frustrated every-time and even goes on to abuse PAF in different or several manners. We keep disrespecting the forces just because none of the people doesn't even know. What you said is the key that never let out anything or even ask for it. Let your adversary keep guessing and be surprised on every level. Let them be worried and not you. But unfortunately, patience is not the quality of everyone.
 
According to the Global Times and secondary research by the EurAsian Times, the latest, powered-up version of the JF-17 fighter jet reportedly features technologies from China’s high-end J-20 fighter jet that will immensely boost its combat efficiency.

According to pictures disseminated on various social media platform, the JF-17 aircraft is installed with many commercial off-the-shelf technologies from the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China.

These include a new and larger holographic wide-angle head-up display and integrated cockpit display comparable to the one used by the J-20, in addition to an advanced infrared missile approach warning system used by J-20 fighter jets.


Analysts said the new additions to the JF-17 can give pilots more situational awareness, permitting them to concentrate more on combat instead of flying the aircraft. In March 2019, Yang Wei, chief designer of the fighter jet, said development and production of the JF-17 Block 3 were underway, and the third block will see the JF-17’s information-based warfare capability and weapons enhanced.


PL-15 Missiles For JF-17 ::

The reports regarding the deployment of longer-ranged Chinese PL-15 missiles on an upgraded JF-17 jet have caused anxiety in the Indian Air Force. Global Times earlier reported that the upgraded JF-17 will host an infrared search and track system along with a cross-section radar that lessens the pseudo-stealthy airframe. The PL-15’s beyond visual range missile has reportedly also caused serious worry in the Pentagon.

The PL-15’s striking range in actual aerial engagements is definitely lower than the maximum range 300 km but is nevertheless much greater than its US’ AIM-120 AMRAAM estimated to be approximately 180 km.

US general Herbert Carlisle voiced serious concerns in 2015 when the development of the PL-15 entered the public domain: “Look at our adversaries and what they’re developing, things like the PL-15 and the range of that weapon.” General Carlisle raised the same issue in an interview with FlightGlobal: “The PL-15 and the range of that missile, we’ve got to be able to out-stick that missile.”

The PL-15 missile, which is a radar-guided weapon, is advertised as having a greater range than both US-built AMRAAM and the Russian R-77, which is in service with the Indian Air Force.

With a length of over 4metres, the PL-15 is much longer than the AMRAAM and has a powerful radar and rocket motor. Experts writing for EurAsian Times maintain that the fundamental role of the PL-15 is to demolish ‘high-value’ targets such as airborne early-warning aircraft (AWACS) and aerial refuelling aircraft, which could handicap any opponent including the US.

The PL-15 uses a conventional rocket motor, unlike the Meteor missile which will be used by the Rafale fighter jets for the IAF. The Meteor has a stated range of “well in excess of 150km” according to its manufacturers but is also smaller in length than the PL-15.

Therefore, experts talking to the EurAsian Times conclude that the PL-15 has greater range than the Meteor on account of its higher fuel capacity and poses a serious threat to the French origin jets which will be operated by the Indian Air Force.


https://eurasiantimes.com/jf-17-vs-...serious-threat-to-indian-rafale-fighter-jets/
So Jf 17 is a threat to Rafale. Rafale JF17 k liye kya hai?
 
Seems like Dassault is trying to push for more numbers...in today's world any jet is dangerous for anyother jet
 

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