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You seem to be crying 'rigged election' 1.5yrs before it just because EVMs would be introduced :lol:

Got any proof or just hawai firing?
*attempted rigging. Proof? I'm pretty sure the ECP's working on that re Daska.

By the way, I'm not complaining at all. I sincerely hope that the generals stick by their boy until they also are rolled through the mud for their part, but unfortunately for you IK's past his zenith, it's only downhill from here, the next few years will be nice to watch.
 
*attempted rigging. Proof? I'm pretty sure the ECP's working on that re Daska.

By the way, I'm not complaining at all. I sincerely hope that the generals stick by their boy until they also are rolled through the mud for their part, but unfortunately for you IK's past his zenith, it's only downhill from here, the next few years will be nice to watch.

Generals casted all those votes for IK in last GE? Generals control me too and many others on PDF and those you know? He's not a popular leader according to you?

People like you take other Pakistanis for being stupid it seems. Perhaps you need to look at yourself in the mirror!
 
Generals casted all those votes for IK in last GE? Generals control me too and many others on PDF and those you know? He's not a popular leader according to you?

People like you take other Pakistanis for being stupid it seems. Perhaps you need to look at yourself in the mirror!

strawmanning won’t save your man. What generals did and didn’t do will eventually become public knowledge and part of the record, at this time however, the history of this era is still being written.

Him being popular is a vague statement, he was quite popular in politics long before he won an election. Also, political engineering has many aspects, stuffing ballots and rigging elections is a more crass and desperate way. Political engineering way predates the 2018 election.
 
strawmanning won’t save your man. What generals did and didn’t do will eventually become public knowledge and part of the record, at this time however, the history of this era is still being written.

Him being popular is a vague statement, he was quite popular in politics long before he won an election. Also, political engineering has many aspects, stuffing ballots and rigging elections is a more crass and desperate way. Political engineering way predates the 2018 election.

Changa Manga was not political engineering? Oh wait, that was straight gangsterism by your ruhani so and so.

You do not see any political engineering in British and US politics? Name me one democracy where background string pullers don't exist at all? If it's not generals, then it's corporations and so on.
 
Changa Manga was not political engineering? Oh wait, that was straight gangsterism by your ruhani so and so.

You do not see any political engineering in British and US politics? Name me one democracy where background string pullers don't exist at all? If it's not generals, then it's corporations and so on.
Every country has vested interests that commandeer political balance for their uses. But it’s on another scale in Pakistan and far more blatant. Like I said, let’s wait to see what happens to IK, maybe he himself will decry the establishment’s role as I’ve been theorising that he’ll do someday eventually, and when the history of this era is revised and written, then we can compare how it looks vs. other democracies.
 
Every country has vested interests that commandeer political balance for their uses. But it’s on another scale in Pakistan and far more blatant. Like I said, let’s wait to see what happens to IK, maybe he himself will decry the establishment’s role as I’ve been theorising that he’ll do someday eventually, and when the history of this era is revised and written, then we can compare how it looks vs. other democracies.
Sorry brother your thinking is awfully far from reality, you don't know the ground situation.
 
Every country has vested interests that commandeer political balance for their uses. But it’s on another scale in Pakistan and far more blatant. Like I said, let’s wait to see what happens to IK, maybe he himself will decry the establishment’s role as I’ve been theorising that he’ll do someday eventually, and when the history of this era is revised and written, then we can compare how it looks vs. other democracies.

Crying a river hoping to be one of those history writers is not going to work.

221 out of 424 in FAVOUR ... this has been written in history today - EVM and you, an overseas Pakistani aspiring history writer and EVM/Overseas voting rigging crier, will get to vote now!
 
Crying a river hoping to be one of those history writers is not going to work.

221 out of 424 in FAVOUR ... this has been written in history today - EVM and you, an overseas Pakistani aspiring history writer and EVM/Overseas voting rigging crier, will get to vote now!
Crying is exactly what Immy will eventually do. Doesn’t really matter when, the record is eventually corrected.
 
After months of logging in, I came to say just one thing, no.

IK will last until 2023, and there is zero indication that his government is at odds with the military. The DG ISI issue wasn't as big of a problem as it was made out to be, and in the end, everything worked out.

All these people saying this is the end of IK were the same ones that said NS was doing a good job economically while ignoring the fact that he was bringing the country on the verge of bankruptcy. By the way, full disclosure, I used to be one of those stupid people, though I ended up learning the hard way and having to acknowledge the fact that I was wrong.

Originally, I thought he'd be out by 2021, then I thought he'd get through to 2023 and lose his re-election bid, now I'm confident he'll not only get to 2023 but likely win a 2nd term in office.

And with that, I will leave again.

I bid you adieu.
No sir,
Definitively my leader nawaz sharif or maryum nawaz will be back by 2023.
Imran khan caused massive inflation due to devalaution from 100-175rs due to bankrupting the country with high CAD and high electricity prices

nawaz sharif kept the rupee stable at 100rs and hence inflation was just 2% during his era but when he wqs kicked out in 2017 everything went wrong first it was establishment guy khaqan abbasi who devlaued rupee to 130 then it was IK.


inshallah once nawaz sharif is back rupee will be less then 100 again ..nawaz sharif proved that u dont need exports for rupee to be stable...IK was lying as 30% increase in exports coukdnt stablize the rupee
Also personal strong relationship of nawaz sharif with IMF will allow us to quickly deal with IMF as well which IK clearly cannot..as IK refuses to make petrol expensive per IMF
Generals casted all those votes for IK in last GE? Generals control me too and many others on PDF and those you know? He's not a popular leader according to you?

People like you take other Pakistanis for being stupid it seems. Perhaps you need to look at yourself in the mirror!
Sir the same generals created islamic itehad against Bibi now they are against my leader maryum nawaz what more proof do u need
 
Could be brother, I’ve been wrong plenty of times in the past. One must keep humility.
Why brother you have grudge about armed forces?

They are sacrificing their lives and young men to protect Pakistan from inside and outside....



outside enemies are known but inside enemies like political leaders who have followings.....simple folks don't know....


You know how Pakistan lost Bangladesh? not because of armed forces but we lost because of power hungry asshole ...who is still alive Bhutto zinda hai....

You know even Ganja has same tune like Bhutto right now..


What option we have left to secure for inside vermons?


Tell me?
 

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