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[Hack-Hook]

Of course there is, Jihadists are terrorists and need to be killed.

it come from the fact you don't knew what Jihad means . and your definition of it come from some shallow western media take on it

Can you do it though?

well there are many intermarriage between jews in course of time , the genetic must have some very distinctive Genes

 

[Beny Karachun]

it come from the fact you don't knew what Jihad means . and your definition of it come from some shallow western media take on it

Holy war. Nothing holy about it.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Holy war. Nothing holy about it.

as I said wrong interpretation of the term

 

[KingMamba]

There are a lot of polarized nations in the world but honestly I always felt Iranians to be the most complicated and I hope Pakistanis are reading what I have to say because we are not as bad as we think.

Where do I start?

Politically, Shah regime extreme left and Khomeini / Revolutionary Guards extreme right. Both failures. The common traits if any is that they were/are corrupt to core.

Socially, Iranian people on two opposite spectrums. The people who are anti islamic are not only pro west / traitors but also Atheists, They view Islam as an Arab religion although historically speaking, the Persians have made a bigger contribution to the islamic world culturally and scientifically than others. How can you neglect that? The religious on the other hand are fundamentalists, imo, worst than wahbbis. Their policies are unrealistic, terrorising and causing the country to be isolated in the world.

Some people correlate these traits with Turks but honestly, no. I get the fundamental differences between Secular Turks and Turks who want to revive Ottoman glory. However, despite their differences they stand united for national interests. They have no issues getting along with each other. You will find a girl wearing a hijab holding hands with a girl in mini skirts.

Iranians have had multiple chances to ditch Islam and have ultimately readopted it when given the choice to leave.

The Iranian forced conversion to Shiaism by Shah Ismail was the greatest things atheists could have wished to have had happened as it deemphasized as you said Iranians contribution to both orthodox Sunni Islam and Sufism.

It probably deserves a thread in itself but Iranian history itself is the biggest rebuttal to atheists who claim Islam was imposed on Iranians by Arabs.

 

[Beny Karachun]

as I said wrong interpretation of the term

I have yet to see someone that identifies himself as a Jihadist and isn't a terrorist.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Iranians have had multiple chances to ditch Islam and have ultimately readopted it when given the choice to leave.

The Iranian forced conversion to Shiaism by Shah Ismail was the greatest things atheists could have wished to have had happened as it deemphasized as you said Iranians contribution to both orthodox Sunni Islam and Sufism.

It probably deserves a thread in itself but Iranian history itself is the biggest rebuttal to atheists who claim Islam was imposed on Iranians by Arabs.

Islam throughout the world was largely imposed, from Africa to Europe- through dozens of ways not just violance exclusively

That doesn't happen just because my God is better than your God , you know what I mean?

Who TF wakes up one day and say I want to become XYZ

Later generations became it's staunch supporters and contributed greatly - Berbers, Persians, our own people etc

But to say Islam spread through kum bah yah is BS, it spread through warfare by Arabs and Turks, under their governance persecution of native relgious beliefs, preference of Islam from the king which overtime over a period of 100s of years led to a relgious change

So Persian nationalist are not incorrect but it's also true that larger Islamic civilization without Persians would not be what it is

 

[Hack-Hook]

I have yet to see someone that identifies himself as a Jihadist and isn't a terrorist.

well m you seems to be in a certain circle , after all didn't israel provide treatment to some Al-nusra and Isis jihadist

 

[Beny Karachun]

well m you seems to be in a certain circle , after all didn't israel provide treatment to some Al-nusra and Isis jihadist

ISIS? Nah. Al Nusra? Yeah.
If Iran can have terrorists why can't we?

 

[Hack-Hook]

ISIS? Nah. Al Nusra? Yeah.
If Iran can have terrorists why can't we?

which terrorist exactly , Hezbollah , they defend their country , Hamas ? complain to Qatar and turkey .

 

[Beny Karachun]

which terrorist exactly , Hezbollah , they defend their country , Hamas ? complain to Qatar and turkey .

Defend their country? By dragging it into wars against Israel? This is the interest of Iran not their country. Do they defend their country by bombing the Israeli embassy in Argentina and killing way more Argentinians than Israelis?

Maybe also by driving their rockets through Druze villages, endangering their lives?

Hamas, Houthis, Khatib-Hezbollah, Hezbollah and more. One of Hezbollah's main income comes from drug deals in South America, an industry responsible for a massive amount of death.

They are as terrorists as they could get.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Love Jihad is muslim boys pretending to be Hindu and befriending Hindu girls and then when the relationship is reasonably advanced spilling the beans about their real religion and either forcing or coercing the girl, who due to social stigma more often than not cannot back out now, into converting to Islam and then getting them to marry them.

This is not Jihad which has a noble meaning, it is common first name among Lebanese and Syrian Christians. Mujahid is more common among Muslims. What you described is Kufr, which literally means deliberately covering the truth or misleading. There has to be better legal word which applies across the board for taking advantage of someone which can be done by anyone of any religion and both sexes.

'In Arabic, the term kufr literally means covering or concealing something, and in a religious context, it refers to hiding or denying religious truth.'

What Is Kufr in Islam? | Synonym

classroom.synonym.com

 

[Beny Karachun]

This is not Jihad which has a noble meaning, it is common first name among Lebanese and Syrian Christians. Mujahid is more common among Muslims. What you described is Kufr, which literally means deliberately covering the truth or misleading. There has to be better legal word which applies across the board for taking advantage of someone which can be done by anyone of any religion and both sexes.

'In Arabic, the term kufr literally means covering or concealing something, and in a religious context, it refers to hiding or denying religious truth.'

What Is Kufr in Islam? | Synonym

classroom.synonym.com

Yeah, in Hebrew it's "Kofer" which means denier. Usually in a religious or a judicial context.

 

[langda khan]

This is not Jihad which has a noble meaning, it is common first name among Lebanese and Syrian Christians. Mujahid is more common among Muslims. What you described is Kufr, which literally means deliberately covering the truth or misleading. There has to be better legal word which applies across the board for taking advantage of someone which can be done by anyone of any religion and both sexes.

'In Arabic, the term kufr literally means covering or concealing something, and in a religious context, it refers to hiding or denying religious truth.'

What Is Kufr in Islam? | Synonym

classroom.synonym.com

None of this means squat to us.

If you have a problem, and are an Indian citizen, please comes to India and petition our Courts.

Nothing is going to be solved here.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Love Jihad is muslim boys pretending to be Hindu and befriending Hindu girls and then when the relationship is reasonably advanced spilling the beans about their real religion and either forcing or coercing the girl, who due to social stigma more often than not cannot back out now, into converting to Islam and then getting them to marry them. With even a change of name from her Hindu (or Christian) name to a muslim one.

they better pay me for that love jihad cause I ain't doing shit without it

Sounds like too much work for bad coochie

 

[langda khan]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...emands-anti-love-jihad-law-2304080-2022-12-01

https://theprint.in/india/vhp-relea...s-demands-central-law-from-modi-govt/1244141/

@Novus ordu seclorum bad days coming for Abduls in India.

As I said, right now the consensus is building in Indian society. Talking between both sides. A lot of denialism much like yours. Deflection much like yours. Whataboutery much like yours.