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Let’s get real on drones

By Shahzad Chaudhry

Published: June 8, 2011

The writer is a defence analyst and retired as air-vice marshal in the Pakistan Air Force

The only sensible thing that came out of the recent 10-hour parliamentary session on the Abbottabad incident was the need to revisit the framework of Pakistan’s relationship with America; more so from the war against terror perspective. A majority of the Pakistanis driven to a frenzy of anti-Americanism in the backdrop of a universal embarrassment thought our response to mean a severing of relations with Washington. And in the same froth of patriotic fervour, teaching the infidel an abiding lesson by denying him the pleasure of not being able to interact with Pakistan, ever. This is crass miscalculation by people of the real value of both their froth and their grey matter.

Drones, too, pushed their way into the resolution willy-nilly. The PML-N lays exclusive claim to this achievement. And why? Because this is a sure-shot winner with public opinion when their bête noire, the PML-Q, has joined hands with the PPP — that is potential trouble and a hanging sword for the PML-N in Punjab — and Imran Khan’s PTI is seen to be buoyant on the back of some institutional propping. It is time for some desperate political measures and hence, the ‘drones’ and ‘trade not American aid’ slogans. Public opinion on both these matters is made more complicated on a daily basis by anchorpersons and their willing coterie of analyst, who take sides depending on which side their bread got buttered for breakfast.

Drones are not as complicated a case as the hours on the airwaves wasted to decipher the issue make them out to be. Immediately post- 9/11, the drones flew from the Pakistani bases given to the Americans. These were three in number, though not all of them operated drone flights. Their purpose, as known and understood by the Pakistani decision-makers, was surveillance alone — armed drones till then were not in use. This involved coordinating airways, allocating block-times for operations and cooperating and sharing intelligence information through agreed and specially-formed joint mechanisms. When Afghanistan was assuredly secured, the bases were reverted to Pakistan and operations relocated to Afghanistan. At around this time, the joint bodies formed to enable coordination were discontinued and, instead, two specified corridors for drone operations were allotted to the Americans. Around 2006, the Americans began arming their drones and the first victim was Nek Muhammad in South Waziristan. Till early 2007, most drone strikes were intimated to the Pakistani military authorities before engagement; and some even carried joint intelligence efforts. In 2007, under a US presidential decree, the sharing of such information was discontinued and Pakistanis were from then on kept in the dark. This was sure to irk the Pakistani military authorities and CIA-ISI relations went downhill from that point.

Dharnas and resolutions notwithstanding, the US will not stop using drones. In America’s war against terror, it remains their only means of war inside Pakistan, with some intelligence help that they have garnered through the Kerry-Lugar facilitation of their increased presence in these regions. We will not permit the Americans to put ‘boots on the ground’; that is our red line. So they remain tied to the drones, which continue to violate Pakistan’s national sovereignty since both the militants and the Americans have violated this notion with impunity.

So what are the solutions? Blustering will not work, so cut that out and stop misleading people and scoring pathetic brownie points. We should consider drones as a subset of the ‘reset’ relationship with America which, in any case, must be defined anew. Are we friends or mere acquaintances? Shall we remain a part of this war against terror, despite the fact that it cultivates more terrorism? Do we wish to remain a part of the global solution or become a part of the problem? Do we wish isolation for ourselves a la Iran and North Korea? What do we suggest as an alternate to the use of drones, since their use is indiscriminate? Shall we take on the task that America is currently doing with the drones? Make no mistake; we can shoot these drones down but then what of the morning after, or perhaps even the same night? This is realism. Idealism will get you only so far.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 8th, 2011.
 
if we shoot down a drone then nothing will happen.America has never dared to voilate irani or north korean airspace.Neither irani nor north korean missiles can hit USA but they do can create a real fuss in their immediate neighourhood.Enemies friend is an enemy too:agree:

the worst that will happen after shooting down a drone would be foreign accounts of politicians getting frozen.
 
if we shoot down a drone then nothing will happen.America has never dared to voilate irani or north korean airspace.Neither irani nor north korean missiles can hit USA but they do can create a real fuss in their immediate neighourhood.Enemies friend is an enemy too:agree:

the worst that will happen after shooting down a drone would be foreign accounts of politicians getting frozen.

Shoot it down and billions of dollars in aid will be frozen. Hence why Pakistan never shoots it down. And they are using the drones to kill their enemies.
 
the worst that will happen after shooting down a drone would be foreign accounts of politicians getting frozen.

i totally agree with this point.

It is the worst nightmare for the account holders only, but for Pakistan it will be a dawn of a new era a second 14-August-1947, a very good thing indeed that these politicians' accounts will be frozen. Well a good idea to some how down a couple of drones and get their accounts frozen and also get rid of those sick Axx Hxxx politicians for good.

The financial aid given by the world does not reach the ordinary people instead goes to the accounts of the politicians, so hell with the foreign financial aid. In both cases the public will suffer so be it the with an additional advantage that the politicians lose money after years of looting the country.
 
Shoot it down and billions of dollars in aid will be frozen. Hence why Pakistan never shoots it down. And they are using the drones to kill their enemies.
o kid come on stop our aid first please .... first try to create opportunities for your people in USA and then talk about us
 
o kid come on stop our aid first please .... first try to create opportunities for your people in USA and then talk about us

The American people have opportunities, they don't have an excuse to depend on the govt. to take care of them. In your country there is no opportunity hence why you need aid.
 
Shoot it down and billions of dollars in aid will be frozen. Hence why Pakistan never shoots it down. And they are using the drones to kill their enemies.

I don't know how to tell you americans that we pakistanis don't want your AIDS. Please stop it now.
 
I don't know how to tell you americans that we pakistanis don't want your AIDS. Please stop it now.

The public does not want the aid but what to do, the people in government are addicted to the US Dollar lolly pop.
 
I don't know how to tell you americans that we pakistanis don't want your AIDS. Please stop it now.

just a question in my mind, is the finance minister of pakistan your uncle or you are an expert economist ? your country has high debt's on it's head so how are you gonna pay them back and then run your country , it is just like beggar's have no choice.
 
o kid come on stop our aid first please .... first try to create opportunities for your people in USA and then talk about us

lol, u.s dosen't need any aid to run its country , rather it give's aid to poor countries like pakistan , so you better not lose your oppurtunity of getting aid.
 
Your govt. leaders, masters, etc. says otherwise. Perhaps you don't see the bigger picture that they do. If you are in their position you may say things differently.
 
lol, u.s dosen't need any aid to run its country , rather it give's aid to poor countries like pakistan , so you better not lose your oppurtunity of getting aid.

Instead of Poking Nose in some one else matter, you should check, How much America is indebted to China.
 
Instead of Poking Nose in some one else matter, you should check, How much America is indebted to China.

100% of all our debt is to China? NOT!!! Look up and see where most of our debt belongs to. It will make your eyeballs pop out. And if China tries to influence the market by dumping the treasury bonds, well lets say its going to hurt them more since they depend on the American economy to keep their own economy going. Hence why they are making money.
 
What I don't get is... Why single out drones for criticism? The real issue should be violation of Pakistani airspace.... If tomorrow drones are replaced by manned fighter jets... Will you be happy?
 

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