Questions on 9/11 remain unanswered

[lem34]

Just because it 'looked like' something does not mean its cause must be the same. That is among the most important rules in scientific investigation. In other words, the same behaviors can have different causes.




The Windsor was not of the same construct as the WTC towers. The Windsor was of concrete construction below the 17th floor and similar steel construction to the WTC towers above the 17th floor.

Case Studies: Historical Fires: Windsor Tower Fire

Above the 17th floor, the Windsor's steel columns collapsed, just as how the WTC towers' steel columns failed. In effect, above the 17th floor, we had a smaller version of the WTC towers.

I like it when you stick to engineering which I know nothing about. But it sounds good. lol

 

[Black Widow]

So still there are ppl who believe that "To attack Muslims, USA killed its own ppl"???

I don't see USA need any such reason. I feel it stupid logic.

 

[gambit]

So still there are ppl who believe that "To attack Muslims, USA killed its own ppl"???

I don't see USA need any such reason. I feel it stupid logic.

The whole thing was never logical to start. The US was clever enough to bring down the WTC towers but too incompetent to fake WMDs in Iraq to justify our invasion 'for oil'. The fact that the US is the world's leader in nuclear weapons was never a factor in this loony conspiracy to justify the Iraq invasion 'for oil'. And somehow these people cannot see their illogic.

 

[amalakas]

The whole thing was never logical to start. The US was clever enough to bring down the WTC towers but too incompetent to fake WMDs in Iraq to justify our invasion 'for oil'. The fact that the US is the world's leader in nuclear weapons was never a factor in this loony conspiracy to justify the Iraq invasion 'for oil'. And somehow these people cannot see their illogic.

I am not much of a conspiracy theorist myself, nor I want to be, but from what you posted above -logical indeed- one thought springs to mind.

what if - working hypothesis, just entertain me- there were different agencies at work in those two different cases?
it has been known in the past that various branches of the CIA,NSA and you know what else, haven't always ... communicated properly ...

 

[husn25]

Just because it 'looked like' something does not mean its cause must be the same. That is among the most important rules in scientific investigation. In other words, the same behaviors can have different causes.


The Windsor was not of the same construct as the WTC towers. The Windsor was of concrete construction below the 17th floor and similar steel construction to the WTC towers above the 17th floor.

Case Studies: Historical Fires: Windsor Tower Fire

Above the 17th floor, the Windsor's steel columns collapsed, just as how the WTC towers' steel columns failed. In effect, above the 17th floor, we had a smaller version of the WTC towers.

As far as the 'controlled demolition' argument goes, answer this question: Why is it that those in the demolition business do not unify and speak up?

If you bring the concrete in now them why did you post a link with survey including all the buildings? Why not just the building made up wtc style? if a building is partially destroyed by fire your point if proven and if its not then its concrete?

My emphasis is still on the destruction resemblance thats why i started with building 7. Lets keep twin towers aside for now cuz they both were hit with nuclear jumbo jets and came down in rather very cute and casual way.

Was building 7 same 100% as twin towers? even if it was then why didnt it wait for its nuclear jet? then again the point comes in y does demolition industry exist if such tall buildings come down the same way so easily.

Fire anywhere in the world didn't bring down fourth building the same way. just 3 examples. All others like that will be in portfolio of companies which create these kinds of demolitions.

 

[husn25]

So still there are ppl who believe that "To attack Muslims, USA killed its own ppl"???

I don't see USA need any such reason. I feel it stupid logic.

Who are USA's own people?
The country which can kill innocents all over the world for no reason can kill a few in their country as well. AS long as no relative of the elite does who cares if they are american or iraqi?

 

[gambit]

I am not much of a conspiracy theorist myself, nor I want to be, but from what you posted above -logical indeed- one thought springs to mind.

what if - working hypothesis, just entertain me- there were different agencies at work in those two different cases?
it has been known in the past that various branches of the CIA,NSA and you know what else, haven't always ... communicated properly ...

Sure...What we call 'WMD', according to the UN, has never been confined to functional weapons but functional DEVICES. There is a difference. To 'weaponize' a device would be to trim the fat here and there, use lighter materials, etc...etc...In other words, we can have an aesthetically ugly Rube Goldberg contraption but as long as it functions or at least very close to function as we intended, then we have a functional device. Despite whatever institutional flaws, inefficiency, or incompetency there are, we could have easily 'hack up' a crude but barely functional 'nuke' that has Iraq's signature all over and hid it in one of Saddam's palaces.

 

[gambit]

If you bring the concrete in now them why did you post a link with survey including all the buildings? Why not just the building made up wtc style?

Because the WTC towers are unique at the time of construction and how they were destroyed was also unique. How many screaming jet airliners crashed into tall buildings in history?

if a building is partially destroyed by fire your point if proven and if its not then its concrete?

What kind of logic is this? A building's construction is open for all to see.

My emphasis is still on the destruction resemblance thats why i started with building 7. Lets keep twin towers aside for now cuz they both were hit with nuclear jumbo jets and came down in rather very cute and casual way.

Was building 7 same 100% as twin towers? even if it was then why didnt it wait for its nuclear jet? then again the point comes in y does demolition industry exist if such tall buildings come down the same way so easily.

Fire anywhere in the world didn't bring down fourth building the same way. just 3 examples. All others like that will be in portfolio of companies which create these kinds of demolitions.

You are now on my dismissed list.

 

[husn25]

Because the WTC towers are unique at the time of construction and how they were destroyed was also unique. How many screaming jet airliners crashed into tall buildings in history?


What kind of logic is this? A building's construction is open for all to see.


You are now on my dismissed list.

No fourth building in the history. 2 came down with jets and one with a heart attack. Don't see you have anywhere to run else than adding people to dismissed lists. How many others have joined the elite dismissed list? perhaps all the people you could not prove are wrong.

Cheers

 

[lem34]

You are now on my dismissed list.

Oh please Gambit sir can I be on your dismiss list too. I feel so left out.

 

[husn25]

Oh please Gambit sir can I be on your dismiss list too. I feel so left out.

 

[lem34]

Why yaar this must be racism. Whats so special about you that you are on the list. Did you pay for the privilege

 

[husn25]

Why yaar this must be racism. Whats so special about you that you are on the list. Did you pay for the privilege

I changed it buddy

 

[Black Widow]

Who are USA's own people?
The country which can kill innocents all over the world for no reason can kill a few in their country as well. AS long as no relative of the elite does who cares if they are american or iraqi?

have you ever been to USA??? Stop talking in Air. If you don't know anything please get urself educated rather than viewing some youtube video. You are poisoned by Hamid gul and Zaid Hamid. Wake up before its too late.

Though Americans killed many Viets or Iraqese But when it comes to Americans they become very sensitive. The respect for Individual I saw in USA i never saw in India. USA is not Pakistan (or India) where only elites are guarded.

 

[lem34]

have you ever been to USA??? Stop talking in Air. If you don't know anything please get urself educated rather than viewing some youtube video. You are poisoned by Hamid gul and Zaid Hamid. Wake up before its too late.

Though Americans killed many Viets or Iraqese But when it comes to Americans they become very sensitive. The respect for Individual I saw in USA i never saw in India. USA is not Pakistan (or India) where only elites are guarded.

First if they cared that much they would care for their soldiers. If they cared for their own they wouldnt have unemployed and rising. If they cared for their people they would not have 1 in 6 in their country relying on food coupons and rising. They can spend millions on wars but cant sort out the poor in their own countries. India and pakistan have an excuse they are relativly poor what excuse do they have?