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MOSCOW: Bhagavad Gita, one of the holiest Hindu scriptures, is facing a legal ban and the prospect of being branded as "an extremist" literature across Russia. A court in Siberia's Tomsk city is set to deliver its final verdict Monday in a case filed by state prosecutors.

The final pronouncement in the case will come two days after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during his Dec 15-17 official visit for a bilateral summit with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev consolidated bilateral trade and strategic ties and personal friendship.

The case, which has been going on in Tomsk court since June, seeks ban on a Russian translation of "Bhagavad Gita As It Is" written by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON).


It also wants the Hindu religious text banned in Russia and declared as a literature spreading "social discord", its distribution on Russian soil rendered illegal.

In view of the case, Indians settled in Moscow, numbering about 15,000, and followers of the ISKCON religious movement here have appealed to Manmohan Singh and his government to intervene diplomatically to resolve the issue in favour of the scripture, an important part of Indian epic Mahabharata written by sage Ved Vyas.

The ISKCON followers in Russia have also written a letter to the Prime Minister's Office in New Delhi, calling for immediate intervention, lest the religious freedom of Hindus living here be compromised.

"The case is coming up for a final verdict on Monday in Tomsk court. We want all efforts from the Indian government to protect the religious rights of Hindus in Russia," Sadhu Priya Das of ISKCON and a devotee of a 40-year-old Krishna temple in central Moscow, told IANS.

The court, which took up the case filed by the state prosecutors, had referred the book to the Tomsk State University for "an expert" examination Oct 25.

But Hindu groups in Russia, particularly followers of ISKCON, say the university was not qualified as it lacked Indologists who study the history and cultures, languages, and literature of the Indian subcontinent.

The Hindus pleaded with the court that the case was inspired by religious bias and intolerance from a "majority religious group in Russia", and have sought that their rights to practice their religious beliefs be upheld.

The prosecutor's case also seeks to ban the preachings of Prabhupada and ISKCON's religious beliefs, claiming these were "extremist" in nature and preached "hatred" of other religious beliefs.

"They have not just tried to get the Bhagavad Gita banned, but also brand our religious beliefs and preachings as extremist," Das said.

The ISKCON devotees have taken up the matter with the Indian embassy in Moscow too for an early diplomatic intervention before things get worse and the court passes an adverse verdict banning the Bhagavad Gita and Krishna consciousness teachings.

In the Nov 1 letter addressed to Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister Pulok Chatterji, ISKCON's New Delhi branch Governing Body Commissioner Gopal Krishna Goswami, said the prosecutor's affidavit claims Lord Krishna "is evil and not conforming to Christian religious view".

Goswami also urged Manmohan Singh to accord priority to the matter during his Moscow stay and take it up with the Russian authorities.

Indian diplomatic corps officials at the embassy here, who were unwilling to be named, told IANS that they have been following up the case since the time it was brought to their notice earlier this year.

They had also taken up the matter at the appropriate levels in the Russian government to get the case either withdrawn or get the defence to fight the case to obtain a favourable verdict.

Officials at the Indian Prime Minister's Office, who were part of the Indian delegation accompanying Manmohan Singh, confirmed to IANS the case and the letter they received from ISKCON in this regard.

"This matter is receiving the highest attention and the Indian embassy officials in Moscow have been instructed to follow up the case with the Russian authorities," they said.
 
KIndly paste a source ....do we need to ask every time?
 
Bhagavad Gita has some caste based , misogynistic verses .But i never came across any verse targeting other religious faiths.
 
Bhagavad Gita has some caste based , misogynistic verses .But i never came across any verse targeting other religious faiths.

No it doesn't.

I have read it and it doesn't say anything what you seem to have inferred.

Unless, of course, you couldn't understand what is being said and in what context it is being said.

Bhagvad Gita proposes caste based 'organisation' of the society, much like you have hierachical systems in today's companies or governments.

It's a system of classification, neither good, nor bad. It's just a system of classification, that's it.

Gita says the society is ideally divided into four groups, namely, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, and Shudra.

Gita does not say that Shudras are inferior to Brahmins in any way whatsoever.

That is an unnecessary inference that you and other people who have misinterpreted the Gita for their own benefits have derived.

It is not the fault of the Gita if people are incapable of critical reasoning.
 
I have read the Gita as part of my "india" orientation - process. What it says about the Shudra's was eye opening.

O great hero! The duties of Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and also of Shudras have been divided according to the qualities born of their own nature

In india - I met some Hindu people - who believed sincerely that Shudra's are responsible for their condition - because they were bad people in their previous incarnation.
 
I have read the Gita as part of my "india" orientation - process. What it says about the Shudra's was eye opening.

O great hero! The duties of Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and also of Shudras have been divided according to the qualities born of their own nature

In india - I met some Hindu people - who believed sincerely that Shudra's are responsible for their condition - because they were bad people in their previous incarnation.


You cannot create a society without the caste system .

this four castes are there in every society , irrespective of any religion, country .


bhramans :- priests, teachers
kashthriyas : - army , police
vysyas : Business class
sudras : - People who does service to others


correct me if im wrong
 
You cannot create a society without the caste system .

this four castes are there in every society , irrespective of any religion, country .


bhramans :- priests, teachers
kashthriyas : - army , police
vysyas : Business class
sudras : - People who does service to others


correct me if im wrong
problem does not lies in these four mentioned systems they are names but problem lies in the way of thinking . Brahman thinks that they are superior to shudars . and the other problem is in the thinking that son of shudar can not compare to Brahman , he is always inferior .

If shudar get high education and become a teacher or army officer will you then classify him in Brhamans , kashtriyas or he is still shudar ? can anyone answer ?
 
If shudar get high education and become a teacher or army officer will you then classify him in Brhamans , kashtriyas or he is still shudar ? can anyone answer ?

As per definition, by nature of his work, he is deemed to be a brahmin.

If you dig in the ancinet Indian scriptures you will all know that Rishi vihwamitra was a khstriya, who later devoted his life for search of knowledge and he was regarded as a Brahmin Lord Brahma. (Prophet Abraham as per Islam)
 
In india - the Caste system is prevalent everywhere - it has always held them back, and is also the cause of the "reservation" business.
 

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