9-11 attack was also funded from India!!!

[SanjeevaniButi]

Cool down guys.. Jamahir's views should also be heard. I don't necessarily agree with all of it but there needs to be a discourse.

Is there anyone saying his views should not be heard ?

He OTOH is actively saying Kafirs should not be given a platform to make themselves heard and IF they do speak, they should be controlled

C'mon man.. I'm also a Sangh member, but I abhor some of the stupid actions of Sangh affiliates like Sri Ram Sene etc. The aim should be to mobilize and make a sensible and highly active Sangh that does not provoke but react strongly to anything against national interests and Indian public.

A lot of change in the public image and an extensive support base can be ensured by simply getting rid of fringe elements. Both you and I know this stuff. If the Sangh does clean up it's act then there is no basis for criticism.

Can you provide a Link that shows "Sri Ram Sena " is part of Sangh parivar ?

If you cannot do that, do you have the integrity to APOLOGISE for your prejudiced and jaded views ?

What "act" is the Sangh supposed to "Clean up " ? ...... kindly be more specific.

 

[tsinga]

True. We need to know the nutty Jihadi to know what he wants.

@jamahir is unique.

Despite his constant attempt to paint Hinduism as violent as Islam or trying to compare/equate the non-comparable like RSS/Sangh with Islamic terror organizations. He has his Islamist leanings but I personally won't call/label him a jihadi.

But I do have partial respect for him on 2 counts:
1. Despite verbal abuse he gets from so many (calling him jihadi, et all) he never backs down on a logical discussion.

and more importantly

2. In a discussion he remains somewhat open to learning something new contrary to his view unlike the Pakistani kind of Muslims we see on this board who keep repeating the same thing over and over and over even after being presented evidence to the contrary. Which is to say he has not closed his mind completely.

Is there anyone saying his views should not be heard ?

He OTOH is actively saying Kafirs should not be given a platform to make themselves heard and IF they do speak, they should be controlled



Can you provide a Link that shows "Sri Ram Sena " is part of Sangh parivar ?

If you cannot do that, do you have the integrity to APOLOGISE for your prejudiced and jaded views ?

What "act" is the Sangh supposed to "Clean up " ? ...... kindly be more specific.

This tendency to paint any/all Hindu organization that acts stupid... in the Sangh is a problem. Some random group does some random $hit and people start blaming RSS/Sangh for it.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

@jamahir is unique.

Despite his constant attempt to paint Hinduism as violent as Islam or trying to compare/equate the non-comparable like RSS/Sangh with Islamic terror organizations. He has his Islamist leanings but I personally won't call/label him a jihadi.

But I do have partial respect for him on 2 counts:
1. Despite verbal abuse he gets from so many (calling him jihadi, et all) he never backs down on a logical discussion.

and more importantly

2. In a discussion he remains somewhat open to learning something new contrary to his view unlike the Pakistani kind of Muslims we see on this board who keep repeating the same thing over and over and over even after being presented evidence to the contrary. Which is to say he has not closed his mind completely.


This tendency to paint any/all Hindu organization that acts stupid... in the Sangh is a problem. Some random group does some random $hit and people start blaming RSS/Sangh for it.

Yes, let us celebrate Jamahir because he is only a Partial hypocrite and at least pretends not to be a islamist. After all he is a "muslim" and we all know how hard it is for "muslims" to be free of hypocrisy.

So I guess we need to have double standards when it come to Hindus and muslims. ........ have I got it correct so far ?

This tendency to paint any/all Hindu organization that acts stupid... in the Sangh is a problem. Some random group does some random $hit and people start blaming RSS/Sangh for it.

You think they do so because they are Bigots or is there something more to it ?

 

[baajey]

how about sanghi terrorist groups like vhp funded by sangh-supporting hindus in britain and usa??

this time u r being deliberately foolish

 

[Hindustani78]

Why ? pakistan is a military state where everything including the judiciary is run by the military.

India and pakistan cannot be compared. Its pointless.

As far as Col. Purohit and Sadhvi Pragya is concerned, its pretty clear there is no evidence to like them to any crime. They have been victims of CONgress Communal politics.

Malegaon blasts: NIA may let off Sadhvi Pragya, Lt Col Purohit - timesofindia-economictimes

A source said it was also being legally vetted if Pragya could be charged simply because the bike used in the blast was registered in her name. "It is a matter of record that she was not using the bike for 2 years before the blasts and had sold it to deceased Sunil Joshi. Bills for the bike's servicing during those 2 years were paid by Joshi. The bike with a bomb was planted by one Ramji Kalsangre who is absconding,"

The point here is this that they havnt got bail yet unlike Lakhvi who is free.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

The point here is this that they havnt got bail yet unlike Lakhvi who is free.

Sure, but what is the point of telling that to a pakistani ? Do you think they will appreciate it ? its pointless.

 

[Hindustani78]

So Karfirs should not open their mouth, right ?

Believers or non believers here is not the talk here.

We Indians are victims of proxy war since decades and we should keep our fatherland safe.

Sure, but what is the point of telling that to a pakistani ? Do you think they will appreciate it ? its pointless.

but here this is the point which we Indians should not forget and try to show the reality.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

Believers or non believers here is not the talk here.

We Indians are victims of proxy war since decades and we should keep our fatherland safe.

LOL...Father Land ? Its always been Mother Land.

The talk was about "Sanghis" a.k.a Kafirs. There is not confusion here. I don't think we need to call it "proxy" war anymore. Its pretty much a War by other means.

but here this is the point which we Indians should not forget and try to show the reality.

The world knows this reality and the pakistanis are wilfully blind. Nobody can show anything to those who keep their eyes shut.

 

[Hindustani78]

LOL...Father Land ? Its always been Mother Land.

The talk was about "Sanghis" a.k.a Kafirs. There is not confusion here. I don't think we need to call it "proxy" war anymore. Its pretty much a War by other means.

It can be motherland and even fatherland and its not any issue in here.

Its a proxy war which India is facing since many decades and its nothing but to create internal problems whch is to hamper economical growth .

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

It can be motherland and even fatherland and its not any issue in here.

Its a proxy war which India is facing since many decades and its nothing but to create internal problems whch is to hamper economical growth .

In India we always say "Mata Pita" and not "Pita Mata". (Mother first)

Taittiriya Upanishad start by saying "Matru devo bhava, Pitra devo bhava, Acharya devo bhava, Attithi devo bhava" (Mother first)

In the Ramayana, Shri Rama says "Janani Janmabhoomischa Swargadapi Gariyasi " i.e. "Mother and Motherland is greater than Heaven"

We call it " Mathrubhoomi "..... which is Mother Land.

Nowhere do we call it "Father land"

 

[Hindustani78]

In India we always say "Mata Pita" and not "Pita Mata". (Mother first)

Taittiriya Upanishad start by saying "Matru devo bhava, Pitra devo bhava, Acharya devo bhava, Attithi devo bhava" (Mother first)

In the Ramayana, Shri Rama says "Janani Janmabhoomischa Swargadapi Gariyasi " i.e. "Mother and Motherland is greater than Heaven"

We call it " Mathrubhoomi "..... which is Mother Land.

Nowhere do we call it "Father land"

Sapta sindhu muthal Sindhu maha samudhram vareyulla Bharatha bhoomi aarkkellamaano Mathru bhoomiyum Pithru bhoomiyumayittullathu, avaraanu hindukkalaayi ariyappedunnathu.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

Sapta sindhu muthal Sindhu maha samudhram vareyulla Bharatha bhoomi aarkkellamaano Mathru bhoomiyum Pithru bhoomiyumayittullathu, avaraanu hindukkalaayi ariyappedunnathu.

That too puts Mother before Father. BTW do you know what that means ?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Despite his constant attempt to paint Hinduism as violent as Islam or trying to compare/equate the non-comparable like RSS/Sangh with Islamic terror organizations. He has his Islamist leanings but I personally won't call/label him a jihadi.

But I do have partial respect for him on 2 counts:
1. Despite verbal abuse he gets from so many (calling him jihadi, et all) he never backs down on a logical discussion.

and more importantly

2. In a discussion he remains somewhat open to learning something new contrary to his view unlike the Pakistani kind of Muslims we see on this board who keep repeating the same thing over and over and over even after being presented evidence to the contrary. Which is to say he has not closed his mind completely.

You are high.

1. True. He does not abuse verbally. But neither do I. But I am much more a pain in the proverbial rear. Profanities mean nothing online.

2. Logic and jamahir are poles apart. Like matter and anti matter. I have NEVER seen him argue on logic. Always on the lack of logic.

3. He does not paint Hinduism as violent as Islam. He paints Hinduism as violent and backward while projecting Islam as progressive and socialist.

4. I agree that he is unique. An unique jihadi with shades of socialism. But still an Islamist fanatic.

5. He hates dogs. That singularly should disqualify him from belonging to the human race.

 

[Hindustani78]

That too puts Mother before Father. BTW do you know what that means ?

its not any issue.

Calling India as motherland or fatherland .

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

its not any issue.

Calling India as motherland or fatherland .

I never said its an issue, only its never done. Its always called Mother land.