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Why Narendra Modi will never become PM

[Bregs];4778623 said:
Modi's aggression and ruthlessness may appeal to that section of Indian middle class which thinks it is high time India kicked into a higher gear. It does not appeal to most other Indians.

What is wrong in aspiring for that?

Do these loser journalist want everyone to follow lecher ideology of socialism in which one would survive on kindness of queen Gandhi.


When has need for achievement became a crime or something to be looked down upon?


Modi may be evil but he is a necessary evil. If congress wins third term, there would be nothing left of country except handout dependents and crony capitalists.Everyone else either have to leave the country or would be driven into first group.
 
[Bregs];4781413 said:
Its too early to predict seats per state as yet wait for another 2-3 months for better view

I know. But still, there can be some estimate. I see BJP getting little in south (Karnataka) nothing in east/NE. Probably a few in north. All its major winnings should be from centre/west. I cant figure how NDA will get 272, especially after breaking in Bihar, mess in Karnataka. Just like Mr Iron Man was supposed to be the PM last time, to me, the same thing might repeat.
 
I know. But still, there can be some estimate. I see BJP getting little in south (Karnataka) nothing in east/NE. Probably a few in north. All its major winnings should be from centre/west. I cant figure how NDA will get 272, especially after breaking in Bihar, mess in Karnataka. Just like Mr Iron Man was supposed to be the PM last time, to me, the same thing might repeat.

bro all hell will break loose if i predict now although your calculation is more or less accurate, except there in nothing gain in MP and chattisgarh, and rajasthan gain will be neutralized in these two states as here they are ruling since last 2 terms just like UPA at centre
 
I know. But still, there can be some estimate. I see BJP getting little in south (Karnataka) nothing in east/NE. Probably a few in north. All its major winnings should be from centre/west. I cant figure how NDA will get 272, especially after breaking in Bihar, mess in Karnataka. Just like Mr Iron Man was supposed to be the PM last time, to me, the same thing might repeat.

no one can stop modi frm becoming pm of india.
 
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[quote="[Bregs], post: 4778997, member: 148509"
272 is the number the BJP could not achieve even when there was the noise of 'Abki bari Atal Bihari' in 1998 and 1999. These were the two years when there was a BJP-led NDA government at the Centre. In 1998, the BJP fought from 388 seats and won 182 seats. A year later, riding the wave of the Kargil victory and the sympathy of losing the confidence motion in the Lok Sabha by one vote, the BJP assigned more seats to allies. The BJP contested 339 seats and again won 182 seats. Now let's talk about the last elections -- that is 2009. In it, after contesting on 433 seats, the BJP only managed 116 seats. Now the question is this, not only will Modi have to maintain this performance in the next election but also increase the numbers by one-and-a-half times. This is next to impossible.[/quote]

Apparently Modi has made next to impossible, possible!:partay:
 
Then you read this one :
Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today
congress will trail because of incumbency ok but modi n bjp not getting those seats onl;y regional parties will. reason you check state of parties in all states its strong n weak states too
For your analysis to come true BJP needs to have presence in south India, East India, and north east states
BJP needs 272 seats in Lok Sabha

272 is the number the BJP could not achieve even when there was the noise of 'Abki bari Atal Bihari' in 1998 and 1999. These were the two years when there was a BJP-led NDA government at the Centre. In 1998, the BJP fought from 388 seats and won 182 seats. A year later, riding the wave of the Kargil victory and the sympathy of losing the confidence motion in the Lok Sabha by one vote, the BJP assigned more seats to allies. The BJP contested 339 seats and again won 182 seats. Now let's talk about the last elections -- that is 2009. In it, after contesting on 433 seats, the BJP only managed 116 seats. Now the question is this, not only will Modi have to maintain this performance in the next election but also increase the numbers by one-and-a-half times. This is next to impossible.

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today

No one wants to come along

The other hurdles in Modi becoming the PM are his image and politics. Vajpayee became the prime minister only after he found new allies in several states and made the NDA family big, very big. But in the final year of his regime, most partnerships broke down. Only Akali Dal, JD-U and the Shiv Sena have been left behind. The trouble ahead for the NDA is to again bring closer old friends. It is said that Modi has a good political relationship with Jayalalithaa. But Amma hasn't yet made her stand clear. Naveen Patnaik is also firm on his stand of Ekla Chalo (walk alone) these days. Nitish's hatred is known to all. Mamata is worried about Muslim voters in West Bengal. If we talk about some new allies, the NCP is mired in allegations of corruption. The National Conference cannot get out of the Congress lap since its region has its own politics. So when they will not be able to make partnerships, will comments, shares and likes on Facebook make Modi the PM?

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today
Bro riots is not the only reason that may be the last in public memories now after some convictions, there are many other issues e.g this one

The party only gets a zero in the south

BJP loves the word 'south'. In ideological debates, it is called a south-leaning party or a right-wing party. But nothing is right for the BJP in the country's south. We saw the debacle in Karnataka. In Andhra Pradesh, a grassroots leader like Bandaru Dattatreya was sidelined to make way for Venkaiah Naidu, a leader with the Delhi stamp. It lost an ally like the Telugu Desam. Whenever it found some ground in Tamil Nadu, it was on partnerships. For now, the party is empty-handed in the state. Due to the blank slate in the south, the party will not be able to have a pan-India presence allowing it to knock on the doors of 7 Race Course Road even if it does well in the north.

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today

Party has no answers in Uttar Pradesh

The BJP began sinking in Uttar Pradesh after 1998. Kalyan Singh was the chief minister and Rajnath Singh was busy sowing every possible thorn in his path. Kalyan Singh was so ostracised that after a year, he began plotting the defeat of the party while being the chief minister! As a result, the party's 57 MPs were reduced to 29. Kalyan Singh was expelled from the party and after Ramprakash Gupta, Rajnath became CM. He made a lot of announcements, a lot of promises but the party's Assembly seats in UP were reduced to 88. Rajnath came to the centre as minister and in 2004, BJP's condition deteriorated further. The situation now is such that the party is desperate to cross 10 seats in UP. A party that has the most Lok Sabha seats in UP used to claim that they ran the country. But the BJP is still in a bad shape in UP. Here, it is filled with spent leaders for whom it will be enough if they retain their seats. All of them are busy maneouvring with each other. In this scenario, if there is no answer in the BJP to politics in Uttar Pradesh, then the Delhi Durbar will just remain a dream.

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today

With 72 seats short other candidates may emerge like BJP Pappu Gadkari or RAJNATH SINGH
Has he won anything outside Gujarat? Not a single state ?

Narendra Modi is the lion of Gujarat. Not only his supporters, we also believe this. After all, winning three Assembly elections on the trot is not a joke. But what about outside the state? Has the BJP been able to come to power in any other state using the Modi name? Will it be able to do so in the future? There is no answer to this. If we talk about the upcoming elections, in Rajasthan, the BJP is not dependent on Modi but Vasundhara. The party high command has given her a free hand and she would not like any interference. Shivraj too does not think of himself any less than Modi. Raman Singh too has been the CM since the time Modi became one. Delhi is the only state where Modi can openly play his cards. But the Aam Admi Party is here to spoil the game. This was the story of Assembly elections. In Lok Sabha elections, Modi will have a tougher task. Those projecting Modi for PM should answer if the Gujarat CM has come up with any strategy for Lok Sabha polls and what did it result in.

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today
Lol if its good for India as a whole then all the best to you

well after 200 plus it would be comparatively easier to have allies but still not an simple task and this time third front threat is real which won't be good for India because both Cong n BJP have let voters down since last many years and regional parties are gaining at these 2 parties expense
With so much infighting in the house, how will Modi play his innings?

This is a house of 10 heads. No one might be openly stepping out against Modi for the time-being but Advani, Shivraj and the Sangh Parivar have signalled on and off that the one-man show won't work. Leaders like Sushma Swaraj may feel that though she has been in central politics for two decades and has mass appeal, a state leader is staking claim when it is time for the top post. The point to be noted is that Sushma has never called Modi the party's most popular leader. Arun Jaitley, who once used to be Modi's Chanakya, is busy uprooting him, albeit with the calm of a lawyer. Rajnath is singing the Modi song but his existence and rise in the party has only been due to this. And the heaviest among them all, the eldest in the house, Advani, who has fallen silent for the time-being, has not missed the race yet. To encourage him stands a long battalion of dissatisfied party soldiers such as Gadkari and Sanjay Joshi. So till the time Modi becomes a non-controversial leader like Vajpayee in the party, how can he become the leader of the nation?

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today

Remember what Nitish said

If you want to do politics in the country, you cannot stay away from skullcap and tilak. The chief minister of Madhya Pradesh knows this. He meets people on Eid, goes to see off Hajjis and pays for nikah from government funds. But Modi just doesn't agree to do these. He has made it clear time and again that he believes more in building up the image of a strict administrator than change his image among Muslims.
Whether the reason is the post-Godhra riots or image, the Muslim in this country becomes alert whenever he hears Modi's name. Most of them feel that if Modi comes to power, the entire country will become like Gujarat for them. There will always be a shadow of fear and suspicion. Therefore, the moment Modi's bid for the post is announced, Muslim voters in India will work on only one agenda - defeat Modi. Whoever looks capable of defeating the BJP candidate will stand to gain votes.

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today
Two things modi should/BJP should have avoided doing

1. Making Amit shah the in charge of UP is very huge gamble and avoidable blunder what he knows about hardcore politics of UP other then being the accused in riots

2. Should not have allowed Nistish to move out from alliance that must have been saved now the going won't be easy as Lalu too on upswing after 10 years in exile which is natural too in politics
The post-Godhra riots taint yet to wash away

Now let's talk about the one thing that raises the hackles of Modi supporters. The mark of Gujarat riots. Their own PM Vajpayee had said 'Rajdharma' (duty of governance) should have been followed. Modi moved ahead of Gujarat riots but the country remembers that he has never, till date, openly said that what happened in Gujarat should not have happened. The state government should have crushed the rioters with maximum force. Instead of this, those who were opposed to the riots were slowly sidelined. Nothing will happen by flexing muscle or remaining silent. Because the country is still seeking answers from the Congress for the anti-Sikh riots of 1984. Sikhs are still furious with the Congress though the party has made a Sikh the PM. Modi does not even view the riots a taint, how will he apologise for it and as long as the riots besmirch his image, he will lack one strategic move in electoral fights.

Read more at: Not only Advani, 10 more reasons why Modi will find it hard to move to Delhi : India, News - India Today
If all reforms could not be implemented BJP too is equally to be blamed for disrupting parliament, cong will pay for its mis governance but will BJP gain because of the failure of both, the regional parties have got very strong in all big states which is not at all a good sign for emerging India. BJP always i have seen floundered while making its political moves, what are the possible reasons for it

1. Too many aspirants even after declaring Modi as PM Candidate

2. Weak n direction less central leadership since the exit of vajpayeeji,(i voted for this party ist n last time in 1999 because of him alone) and in the states BJP matters they have a very strong local leadership

3. Because of vast diffrence in state n central leaders of BJP the perception of it as being serious challanger to congress in whole india is doubtful

3. BJP alone is to be blamed for the rise of regional parties because of lack of vision of its central leader ship since defeat of 2004, congress on the other hand had better reach in almost whole of india
i must all add that with the modi as candidate for PM the cadres are elated n raring to go but what about the states where it has no presence at all and in states ruled by it since last 2-3 terms it has impressive strength already except Rajasthan so ig it gains there will surely loose some seats in MP, Chattisgarh. Gujarat will be status quo since they have already 90% of seats

So where from where the numbers will add up with modi at helm its less allies and Rural, East, South India to worry about
this elections will be mess may be some name pops out at the last moment
bro all hell will break loose if i predict now although your calculation is more or less accurate, except there in nothing gain in MP and chattisgarh, and rajasthan gain will be neutralized in these two states as here they are ruling since last 2 terms just like UPA at centre


Now, where is @[Bregs] ?? :D
 
Modi's aggression and ruthlessness may appeal to that section of Indian middle class which thinks it is high time India kicked into a higher gear. It does not appeal to most other Indians.

This week’s court conviction of 31 people for crimes including murder during the 2002 post-Godhra riots in Gujarat makes it clear that state Chief Minister Narendra Modi will never be prime minister of India. It would be foolish to try and channel even an iota of the prevailing anti-Congress sentiment around the country that shows no sign of abating in the foreseeable future towards this egotistical man. Each act by Modi demonstrates that he has no misgivings about the death of a thousand Indians during those riots; indeed he is contemptuous about making shows of generosity towards Muslims, as evidenced during his fast (an attempt to appropriate Anna Hazare’s effective anti-Congress tool) when he refused to wear a cap offered by a Muslim. Actually, what could be greater evidence than the fact that he hasn’t made the simple, no-cost political move of apologising for the post-Godhra riots? If Modi thinks that the lack of proof of a chain of culpability on technical grounds is going to be enough, he has another think coming. And no matter how compromised the credibility of police officer Sanjiv Bhatt may be, Modi’s government’s attempts to discredit him mirror the clumsy attempts by the Congress party to discredit Anna Hazare’s team.

As much as Modi’s aggression and ruthlessness may appeal to that section of the Indian middle class which thinks it is high time India kicked into a higher gear, it does not appeal to most other Indians; and no one can become prime minister unless they appeal to a majority of Indians (we don’t have direct elections to the post, but even in pre- or post-poll tie-ups, regional leaders are going to think twice about hitching their fortunes to this man). India Inc can’t stop gushing about how Modi is the man of the future, and how he will be the one to take India to the next stage of rapid economic growth, but these are contestable claims. I wonder whether or not Gujarat, which has traditionally seen high economic activity in India, would have grown without Modi at the helm. I also wonder how many Gujarati industrialists are willing to concede that their rise and success is due to Modi. In any case, the crony capitalism and the corporate complicity in big-ticket corruption during past few years are evidence of how little India Inc really cares for India.

Anybody who thinks that Modi is the man to rescue the nation from the Congress should also look at the parallels thrown up by the coming US presidential elections. President Barack Obama has unfortunately had to hold office during a time when the global economy has spluttered and faces further “lost years”. His leadership has been found wanting by his voters and all precedent points to his being a single-term president — if he faces a strong opponent. Trouble is, Republicans don’t seem able to find a strong candidate to take on Obama. In the run-up to their primary process, each Republican candidate looks more ridiculous and unelectable than the next. An apt analogy might be that Narendra Modi is the Rick Perry of Indian politics. Except that Rick Perry did not preside over the murder of nearly a thousand Texans.

The Congress party is vulnerable because of its own misdeeds, starting from the nuclear deal that was pushed through Parliament with purchased votes, to the blind eye turned to the loot of the country in the 2G scam. Anna Hazare has demonstrated the widespread public revulsion that exists for the UPA government; character assassination of Team Anna members may remove the personnel, but not the public revulsion. Such is the state of public nausea that voters are willing to tolerate a timid and unimaginative chief minister like Maharashtra’s Prithviraj Chavan so long as he’s clean, as a DNA survey showed this week. The opposition parties must think of maximising the opportunity on the horizon; however, on current evidence it looks a tall order. The BJP has over-estimated its own strength and its ability to deliver an alternative. The fact that some of its worthies still think that the 84-year-old rath yatri LK Advani is a PM candidate, despite the fact that he led a losing campaign in 2009, demonstrates the bankruptcy of their political strategy.

India has had several experiments with non-Congress, non-BJP governments, but they have not lasted the full course. This does not mean a future experiment will also come up short. But the regional parties have to get their act together for 2012’s two milestones: the UP elections and India’s Presidential election. Mayawati looks on course to decide the first; perhaps she should take the lead in strategising an alternative for the next Parliamentary election. (I don’t give importance to the anti-Mayawati reports in our casteist media, and I don’t think the voters will either.) And the others, be it Mamata, Jayalalithaa, Nitish, etc, should follow her lead. Doing so would be far better than to delude oneself into following Modi’s lead, because his is a road that will lead nowhere in a hurry.

Source: Why Narendra Modi will never become PM - Analysis - DNA
Brother your wish didn't come true..how ecstatic it is to come across such threads !
 

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