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  • graphican
    My point won't be made until I write a response to it. And no I do not support terrorism let it be by L.E.T or by any country. Lets keep the discussion on the topic till a time later.

    Waslaam.
    graphican
    Ejaz,

    I have gone through the article you pointed and have studied it. It is combination of 1 - Political Opinon, 2 - Discontent to the "self-styled Jihadis" and touches the GhazwatulHind in between.

    I am preparing to write a complete response to it and Inshallah I will make it live and share with you.

    As a Muslim, the core must remain central to Allah and I hope your love for homeland wouldn't astray your focus. I will get back to you with Article and Rational, Logical and Dependable response (with references) to the article by By Maulana Waris Mazhari.

    Waslaam.
    graphican
    Sure I will read the article and get back to you. But its good that you are not questioning if Ahadith are authentic anymore. So we have reached half-agreement to this point.

    For the later.. I would need to invest time and attention to validate aspects mentioned in the article. But read Answer to "Myth of GhazwatulHind" and you would never quote or refer to Ali Natiq's article again.

    So discussion on the topic will resume at a later time Inshallah.
    graphican
    "Clearly they are being misused for perceived political benefits, just like numerous other hadiths e.t.c are misused for actions from Suicide bombings to attacks against govt.s or elected representatives all of which are wrong."

    How is wrong understanding on someone else's part your reason to dismiss the source Ahadith? Do you not believe in Ahadith which is "Sahi" (undoubted, credible and referenced by multiple independent and credible Mohadeseen)? It doesn't matter how many on earth interpret them wrong.. all what matters is how you as a person take them. So are so shy when it comes to choose between Nationalism and Relegion.. common you can take the sides. You can well say you value Nationalism more and that will clear this aspect but you as a Muslim shying and hesitating to acknowledge credible Ahadith is a big question mark.
    graphican
    Secondly, who told you Jihad against hind will be a prxy Jihad? What if India attacked on Pakistan? Jihad against state can only be done when it is announced by Muslim State and not be a sect or segment of society. Also TTP and others who are fighting against Muslims in Muslim Country cannot be Jihad in any scene. But Don't mix two things together.. keep this issue separate where you and I both agree its terrorism.. What is your take on GhazwatulHind in black and white?
    graphican
    Secondly, who told you Jihad against hind will be a prxy Jihad? What if India attacked on Pakistan? Jihad against state can only be done when it is announced by Muslim State and not be a sect or segment of society. Also TTP and others who are fighting against Muslims in Muslim Country cannot be Jihad in any scene. But Don't mix two things together.. keep this issue separate where you and I both agree its terrorism.. What is your take on GhazwatulHind in black and white?
    graphican
    The Article "Myth of Ghazwatulhind" is based on false assumptions. On which grounds can you say it is still valid? I had Presented "Answer to Myth of GhanzwatulHind" to the original author Ali Natiq several times and posted in his blog but every time he deleted that and never responded to defended his claims which has been logically and with reference proven false.

    Now keeping what you think of Islam in India aside, what is your base for projecting false article and insisting it is still valid?

    No one is inducing jihad against Hind but Ahadith of Ghazwatulhind are genuine, authentic and "Sahi". On what grounds are you still supporting Ali Natiq's Article???
    C
    Hi Ejaz

    First let me offer my thanks for helping in such a good way. I appreciate your rational, informed and balanced approach.

    I wanted to request for some more help if it's possible. About two days ago I started on a thread on Khilafat Movement but so far have received no satisfactory reply. If you have some information on the topic, please share it with me. Thanks a lot.

    Best wishes
    Haroon
    American Eagle
    Thanks for your very adroit explanation, current tense, of JKLF.

    George L. Singleton, Colonel, USAF, Retired
    US Air Attache Office, US Embassy, Karachi 1963-65, as USAF Liaison Officer for our USAF communications base at Badabur
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