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While the US are murderers doing carpet bombing on Afghan civilians & Talebans alike, the Talebans are nothing but religious fanatics who wanted to impose their version of Islam on all the rest of the world including on us, who had helped them in their not only hour of need by on day to day basis.

They supported terrorist like Tehmur Langhra, etc in doing bombing rounds in our mosques & imam barghas and gave them safe heaven.

Dear Islam dont need any war ,it always enters through hearts,so your claim that Talaban planning to impose islam on whole world is wrong.

What is your defination of religious fanatics ?

Who is tehmur langhra ? any link please

Yes Talaban flushed out few shia spies from Afghanistan ,but it does not mean that iran start supporting US because they have fiqa(Aqeeda) differences with talaban.

Iran is guilty in support of US against Sadam and could use same tactics aganist Talaban or Pakistan.:tsk:
 
Dear Islam dont need any war ,it always enters through hearts,so your claim that Talaban planning to impose islam on whole world is wrong.

What is your defination of religious fanatics ?

In 1 minute, those who want their way of interpretation of Islam to be imposed on others .. like stopping buses in Kabul under Taleban regime & asking for people to pray, like taking customs duty on Afghan transit trade and letting the same products get smuggled back into Pakistan duty free, like not allowing ladies to study, not allowing widows to earn their bread, banning poppy cultivation only in the last year of their rule on Kabul, etc.

Who is tehmur langhra ? any link please

Appartently from the way you written this .. you should be in the age of not more th 25 to 28 years !

Cause you seem to have altogether forgotten the issues which Pakistan had with Talaben (including doing gunja our local football team for playing in Afghanistan in shorts !). If you want as a market hear the speech of Gen. Musharaff on August 14 same year as 9/11, as he was furious when Taleban supported guys killed some rizvi or jafri Chairman of POF (at that time a big forex earner) !

Yes Talaban flushed out few shia spies from Afghanistan ,but it does not mean that iran start supporting US because they have fiqa(Aqeeda) differences with talaban.

Wrong here .. you don't know the story of Pakistan / Iran / TAleban / the Khalili tribe .. it is a long story & me being at work would write it later. I think that guys name was Ismail Khalili which was killed by Taleban while in captivity.

Having said that regarding the Taleban / Shia problem in Afghanistan, I would prefer not to go to much in detail as it is none of our concern .. just like it is none of the affair of Taleban to create tensions in our Shia / Sunni community.

Iran is guilty in support of US against Sadam and could use same tactics aganist Talaban or Pakistan.


100% agreed on this. The dead count of US in Iraq would have been much much greater, but Iran sold us all out in Iraq ! But than in the Iran Iraq war the rest of the Muslim brothers (not Pakistan) sold Iran out whole sole !, but in 2006 it was the hour of unity and Iran did what was expected ! Divided !
 
100% agreed on this. The dead count of US in Iraq would have been much much greater, but Iran sold us all out in Iraq ! But than in the Iran Iraq war the rest of the Muslim brothers (not Pakistan) sold Iran out whole sole !, but in 2006 it was the hour of unity and Iran did what was expected ! Divided !

Thanks God you agreed on some point,

Remember there were no shia and sunni sects during our Prophet PBUH era.
We should reject this divsion,and should try to follow what Quran and Hadiths teaches us and show tolrance for difference in opinion.

Shia Sunni Bahi Bahi :cheers:
 
Who is tehmur langhra ? any link please

There was a whole team of murderers .. doing killings of professionals in Pakistan on the name of Islam .. Don't forget to make doctors or surgeons is not a easy task and already we are short of speciality professionals due to brain drain as well ...

I tried to do a search .. I don't correctly remember the name but he was Langhra or something belonging to the Jhangvi group ... Unfortuantely online we dont' get so many links of such news so easily .. Anyhow ..

Daily Excelsior... Editorial
Uneasy is Pakistan with US strategy

By B L Kak

Tension-laden President and military ruler of Pakistan, Gen. Parvez Musharraf, has so far managed to maintain his hold over the equally tense officialdom. But he and the Pak bureaucracy may fall apart if the US anti-terrorist campaign ultimately demanded that Islamabad enforce an effective ban on all Pakistan-based jihadi organisations.

Unambiguous is the message from the average Pakistani official: Washington’s expected demand for a total ban on all Pak-based militant and terrorist outfits will lead to a grave law and order situation in Pakistan and deal a major blow to the Kashmiri ‘freedom struggle’.

If the leading Pakistani English daily, The News, is to be believed, differences have arisen between the United States and Pakistan’s military establishment over the former’s strategy vis-à-vis Osama bin Laden and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. Is the Musharraf Government really getting uncomfortable on Washington’s posturing on at least four issues?

These issues have been identified as US military assistance to the Northern Alliance, its insistence on action against jihadi groups within Pakistan, US hesitation in getting a fresh UN endorsement for its military action and non-inclusion of Muslim States in the military coalition to fight against Afghanistan. Unconfirmed reports say that the military high command in Rawalpindi has been forced to reconsider its options following the ISI’s finding that the India-backed Northern Alliance in Afghanistan was getting extensive military support from an international coalition headed by the United States.

A section of Pakistan Army is reportedly of the view that it is unnatural to expect the Pak Armed Forces to support a military action that may drive the Northern Alliance from their present hideouts in Panjshir Valley to the seat of power in Kabul. Differences between the US and Pakistan also developed over the former naming a Pakistani religious trust along with a jihad group in the list of 26 organisations to be targeted for financial crackdown.

Again, if the findings of The News were to be believed, the naming of the two organisations has multiplied doubts in the minds of Pakistani officials about the ultimate objectives of the United States mission. The average Pak official has already been led to believe that the Al-Rashid Trust, a ‘charitable’ organisation, supplied bread to nearly 1,50,000 people inside Afghanistan.

The Al-Rashid Trust is, at the same time, said to be associated with the Lashkar-e-Toiba, one of the major jihadi organisations fighting Indian troops in Jammu and Kashmir. The Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, the second Pakistani organisation to figure in the US list of targets, had been founded after the United States had declared its parent organisation, Harkat-ul-Ansar, as a terrorist outfit.

Even after his regime’s ‘unstinted cooperation’ to the US in its war against the international terrorism, Gen. Parvez Musharraf, has found it necessary to talk about the friendly Pak-Afghanistan relationship. Gen. Musharraf cannot deny the fact that he faces a troublesome Afghanistan with whom Pakistan has unsettled borders. If the border with Afghanistan becomes troublesome, Pakistan will have to raise another army to protect it.

Gen. Musharraf and his Government cannot refute yet another fact-that is, Afghanistan’s foreign policy has always been anti-Pakistan. Afghanistan was the only country to oppose Pakistan’s admission to the United Nations. It has never to this day given up its revanchist claim to the Pashtun-speaking areas extending up to the Indus river.

The British enforced the Druand Line, which demarcated the border between British India (now Pakistan) and Afghanistan under a 100-year treaty which lapsed in 1993. Mullah Omar, the supremo of the Tazliban, often referred to as Pakistan’s creation, has refused to discuss the extension of the treaty on the grounds that his country is at war with the Northern Alliance.

According to another Pakistani publication, Dawn, Mullah Omar can wave a double-edged sword over Pakistan’s head. If Pakistan’s Islamic credentials are found wanting, for instance, for cooperating with the UN-appointed border teams for monitoring the observance of arms embargo on the Taliban, the gears of propaganda in the tribal homelands would be moved forward to show the Government as lacking in Islamic spirit and character-a theme close to the heart of the right wing religious parties.

Is Mullah Omar a friend or a Frankenstein? Pakistan’s most dreaded sectarian organisation, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, is given sanctuary in Afghanistan. So are a host of other militants and wanted criminals. Terrorism and a rejection of civilised values masquerade as a religious orthodoxy that counts Mullah Omar as its spiritual and temporal head. The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and other similar organisations such as Lashkar-e-Toiba are dedicated to overthrowing the civil order in Pakistan.

On more than one occasion, Gen. Musharraf himself admitted that sectarian and ethnic extremists were busy undermining Pakistan’s national and internal harmony. What short of a friend is Mullah Omar if he is providing sanctuary to such elements, MP Bhandara has asked in a write-up published by Dawn. The time has come to review options on Afghanistan. Bhandara has said and emphasised: "Pakistan should not seek to circumvent the UN sanctions. It is in its interest that the sanctions apply to the Taliban in full compliance of UN resolutions… Islamabad should also open better lines of communication to the Northern Alliance and fully support the efforts of King Zahir Shah to hold a Loya Jirga".


When does a freedom fighter become a terrorist? Or when does a terrorist become a holy warrior? MP Bhandara’s answer: The truth is that a terrorist is neither a freedom fighter nor a holy warrior. Pakistan is an Islamic State; the Council of Islamic Ideology should decide if private or political groups have a right to declare jihad.

Is Pakistan not guilty of ignoring Article 256 of the Constitution which forbids the creation of private armies? Bhandara’s comment: One wonders why the Pak Supreme Court does not take notice of this breach in its original jurisdiction?

Bhandara has warned: The day is not far off when these private armies will turn their guns on their creators and will create civil war-like conditions in Pakistan. Jihadi armies are usually commandeered by extremists who know not the language of political compromise. Any agreement with India, no matter how small a step in relation to Kashmir, will be labelled a sell-out by the ideological leaders of the private militias whose real agenda, according to the Pak publication, is to grab the levers of powers.

Osama bin Laden, a close relation of Mullah Omar, is only a franchise-holder for jihadi operations worldwide. There are people, as admitted by the United States, who provide financial help or forces that promote a world-view behind him. Over the past few years, the US officials have either not directed themselves against these forces or been stymied in their anti-Osama actions.

Al-Qaeda, the outfit headed by Osama bin Laden, is by all accounts a loose-knit fraternity rather than a monolithic organisation. Those who fought in the Afghan war or those who have joined global jihad subsequently use Al Qaeda as a hub for networking. This provides Osama with ready access to operatives or suppliers of logistic services and finances all over the world.

This, in other words, means that Osama bin Laden is not tied down to jihad in one particular country or one part of the world or attached to the agenda of a particular religious fundamentalist outfit like the Armed Islamic Group in Algeria or the Gama Islamiya in Egypt. Whether it was the attack on the US embassies in East Africa or on the USS Cole in Yemen, the actual operatives or support cadres were reportedly drawn from several countries and had been drawn into jihad by diverse national or ideological groups.

The Taliban regime has found itself in the dock since September 11 when America came under a cataclysmic terrorist offensive. With the United States losing no time to call upon the Taliban to hand over Osama bin Laden, the fanatic Government in Kabul could not asked for more trouble.

With Saudi Arabia now joining the United Arab Emirates in snapping diplomatic relations with the Taliban, the renegade Afghan regime’s residual lifeline of sorts is the one that Pakistan might choose to sustain or snuff out in a rapidly changing international environment.
 
Thanks God you agreed on some point,

Remember there were no shia and sunni sects during our Prophet PBUH era.
We should reject this divsion,and should try to follow what Quran and Hadiths teaches us and show tolrance for difference in opinion.

Shia Sunni Bahi Bahi


Wariach66 : I am ready to agree on this which are true & the news about the Iran support to US in Iraq is a correct one, hence, there is no denying it.

Regarding the issue of Sunni & Shias .. it is only our enemies who will propagate the division, the only way forward is united & mind you in this Saudia & Iran have to play their cards of unity. Without this the Muslim world will be manipulated from every side ! But can we learn the lesson from our mistakes ? Yeah that's the question for our Ummah !
 
I appreciate you sentiments.Our enemy is evil genious(zoinist Regime) always planning to control wealth and resources of world.

Media,finance and politics is their major tools but our tools are IMAN,ZAKIR,DAWAH to counter their evil planning and actions.
 
SSG : From where are you getting your news !

Infact Iran was one of those who claimed outrightedly that Pakistan nor its govt. was not involved in the Mumbai attack & this pi$ India big time ..

JR/AA

MUST 7,

Please keep your sectarian belongings in your hip pocket and think as a Pakistani first.

English Foreign Minister also said the same and he even went to the extent of saying that Kashmir needs to be resolved.

So does this make UK our best friend?

Please read attach and call the Iranian consultae to ask about the troop movements:

Washington Times - Pakistan assails Iran over growing Baluch insurgency

Here is one from IRAN TV press:

Press TV - Iran ready to hunt down bandits in Pakistan
 
Hi,

Iran may allow its soil to transport supplies for the NATO forces---but then it may also invite al qaeda to divert its attention to that area as well.

I believe that it will be a welcome relief for pakistan. Let al qaeda enjoy iran's "hospitality".
 
Hi,

Iran may allow its soil to transport supplies for the NATO forces---but then it may also invite al qaeda to divert its attention to that area as well.

I believe that it will be a welcome relief for pakistan. Let al qaeda enjoy iran's "hospitality".

Iran is a great nation not like Pakistani government always ready for relatioship with US only for cup of coffee.
Iran have agenda to control middle east , NATO and US have to pay heavy price to use iranian route.
NATO have aggreement with Russia they dont need iranian route at the moment.
 
Russia, Tajikistan Offer Passage Of U.S., NATO Supplies To Afghanistan

February 6, 2009 11:15 p.m. EST



Windsor Genova - AHN News Writer
Dushanbe, Tajikistan (AHN) - The governments of Russia and Tajiskistan on Friday offered to allow passage through their territories of non-military supplies for U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

The United States had asked to transport the cargo through Russian territory to Afghanistan and his country intends to cooperate, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Russian television, according to CNN.

Lavrov said Russia and NATO have an agreement signed in April 2008 allowing the transit of non-military NATO supplies for Afghanistan across Russian territory.

"Tajikistan is ready to offer the United States and NATO countries help with the transit of humanitarian and commercial supplies to Afghanistan," AFP quoted Tajik President Emomali Rakhmon as saying after a meeting with the U.S. ambassador Tracey Ann Jacobson.

Jacobson said the supplies will pass through a bridge over Panj river connecting southern Tajikistan to Afghanistan.

The offers by Russia and Tajiskistan came as the Kyrgyzstan government reiterated Friday it will close the U.S. air base in Manas.

The Manas air base supports coalition forces in Afghanistan by serving as a staging area for supplies. Its closure is seen to strain the supply line of U.S. and NATO troops battling Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan.
 
Hi,

Iran may allow its soil to transport supplies for the NATO forces---but then it may also invite al qaeda to divert its attention to that area as well.

I believe that it will be a welcome relief for pakistan. Let al qaeda enjoy iran's "hospitality".

MastanKhan; sir
thats why , i used the term of "desperate widow" for ALLIED FORCES, in afghanistan looking for help from any one!:enjoy:
putting supplies, in IRANIAN hands would be a treat to watch, as IRAN IS GOING TO PLAY WITH THEM , like bunch of kids. putting preasure on israel!:lol::tup:
on the other hand, giving oppourtunities to "al qaeda";):enjoy::tup::rofl:
 

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