1: Your air launched cruise missiles have a range less than 350km. And your land based cruise missiles have a range of only around 700km. So you cannot hit anywhere. Ballistic missiles are only used for a nuclear payload because they have a high CEP compared to cruise missiles(actually even cruise missiles have a slightly big CEP but when compared to ballistic missiles it's much better). You cannot use ballistic missile to hit pin point targets. Also those cruise missiles carry warheads ranging from 200kgs to 500kgs only. You won't be able to penetrate hardened shelters with just such a low payload, so you have to use several missiles for just a single hardened shelter, provided it hits the target with pin point accuracy. If it even misses it's hardened shelter target by even 5m, your multi million dollar missile is wasted.
2: Beidou is only operational within China. It is still not made available outside, yet.
3: We have been hearing this Block-2 since 2 years ago. Face it, you guys haven't requested for engines for the next 50 block-2 JFTs because you cant pay for it. How can you manufacture Block-2 without engines?
4: I accept this, except for the fact it will be much difficult for PAF to take out Indian ground based early warning sites rather than vice versa, because of my point 2 in the previous post. Plus they are heavily fortified with SAM we just procured from Israel.
5: I accept. But then your relations with the U.S would go downhill pretty fast. And who knows, maybe they will even share their tracking data with us. If you don't follow their rules, they play dirty. You already know that they have done underhanded things before, and they will do that again.
6: Yup, they still haven't achieved BVR capability. It is still in testing with dummies carried around. If they did fire off one, then chinese sponsored state media would showcase it as a huge event like they did when JFT fired the short range Air-Air missile. No Band Baja has happened for it.
7: This FC-20 is something we have been hearing from 2005 from Musharraf times. As old as the Indian MMRCA saga. Atleast MMRCA is an open tender with lots of jets competing, but this FC-20 is just one jet which is to be procured. What is taking so long? Answer: You are broke!
8: There are also unconfirmed uncle aunty sources which reports of ICBMs in Pakitans arsenal. Which unconfirmed uncle aunty sources shall we believe? It's better we don't believe any of them - this goes for both india and pak.
9: See point 3.
10: Yes, PLAAF never made any promises, but PAF took a calculated risk. During the initial years after JFTs first flight there were reports after reports in pakistani press of PLAAF interested in JFT and would order 300-400 jets. PAF assumed PLAAF would replace their thousands of J-6 and J-7s with JF-17, but they massively underestimated China's growing economy and PLAAFs resolve. They are going with J-10 and Sukhoi copies through and through eventhough they are costlier. No JFTs for PLAAF. And so no Chinese state funding for JF-17s weapon integration, Trainer version, Block-2 upgrades and so on. You have to pay through the nose for all that.
1) Reported range of 350 km which is enough to take out all your forward bases ... Babur is another story and we have other fine missiles in the inventory so as I say it goes both ways and doesn't depend on strategic depth as you said ... You are again assuming something along the lines of 1 missile / base or something when the strategy is to fire a salvo ! I think we can use ballistic missiles in your case , since you are not that far away and our guidance systems are pretty good ...
2) Why not research , dear ? There's a thread in the Pakistan Strategic Forces section which can enlighten you that Pakistan has signed deal with China for usage of both civilian and military grade Beidou ...
3) Yes , you have been ... Provide me a source for the engine part ... The third squadron is to be raised earlier next year and who knows it will be a Block-2 ...
4) I accept but PAF too has better force multipliers to tackle that situation ... We operate almost 8 AWACS , an overkill for the border with India that we need to defend ... So cant they warn of impending danger ?
5) Guesses need not be answered ... " Maybe they will provide data " as you say ... Tell me when they do ...
6) Ignorance is bliss for you guys ! JFT has confirmed integration of MAR-1 and you are talking about BVR capability - height of ignorance ! Why do not you just visit the JFT info pool in this very forum and enlighten yourself ?
Maybe , find a photo of JFT when it last participated in an Farnborough air show and activate your grey matter ...
7) Yes , but didn't I already tell you that Pakistani defense purchases aren't made in the same manner as yours ? Rest assured , the FC -20 will be up guarding our skies when you get the delivery of first aircraft which I must remind you that the deal hasn't been signed yet ...
8) Believe what you want to believe
10) I just told you ... Yes , PLAAF was interested in the JFT and Pakistani media was reporting that but to say that PAF bought JFT assuming just that the PLAAF would follow suit is absurd ... Pakistan pursued the project for its own aims and the main objective of the programme was to kick start our aeronautics industry and replacement of third Gen aircrafts in the inventory and it has been successful thus far ... I fail to understand what further weapons need be integrated ? Post this question in the JFT thread and you can get a response ...
Logically its flying. But factually it isn't.
Agreed ... The operational J-10 fact should have done the trick for you instead of arguing needlessly when I said that it is flying ...
