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Appeal for Kashmir to National Human Rights Commission

Yes speech is free in India and genocides of Muslims, Christians and dillats are also free.

Thats what is the Biggest Democracy is for !!!!!

India is the biggest shame for humanity!

Well if any one reply to your post so he will gonna ban ... right ???

Btw what whole world say about you ... just a one week ago some countries PM call all Pakistanis ...............

So clam down and dnt try to emberess your self
 
Yes speech is free in India and genocides of Muslims, Christians and dillats are also free.

Thats what is the Biggest Democracy is for !!!!!

India is the biggest shame for humanity!

What genocide mate??As i said there are Muslims and Christians living in India other than Orissa and Gujrat.and living here peacfully with Hindu religion...I can show you thousands of Churches and Mosques here in India which is un touched and unscratched ..so posting some links about Gujrat and Orissa and saying that we are getting massacred here is not going to fly anymore..so cut the bullshit and get on with your life..we are better here than any other country and last time i checked.it was muslim fanatics who cut the hand of a Christian teacher here in my state..not Hindus..whats you take on that??
 
What you think about Chinese muslims ?????



Indians are raising the point about Chinese Muslims !!! again and again.

To clear the point of view of this side of the fence I offer following comments:-

  • We are against all sort of atrocities whether committed by Chinese, Indians, Russians or Americans, not only against Muslim but against all human being.
  • We are equally concerned about the plight of Indian Chritians and even dillats who are being crushed by Brahmins rulers of India.
 
Well if any one reply to your post so he will gonna ban ... right ???

Btw what whole world say about you ... just a one week ago some countries PM call all Pakistanis ...............

So clam down and dnt try to emberess your self

Do not worry about us

We are the bad guys but we know how to survive in bad weather.
 
Indians are raising the point about Chinese Muslims !!! again and again.

To clear the point of view of this side of the fence I offer following comments:-

  • We are against all sort of atrocities whether committed by Chinese, Indians, Russians or Americans, not only against Muslim but against all human being.
  • We are equally concerned about the plight of Indian Chritians and even dillats who are being crushed by Brahmins rulers of India.

Yupz i am being crushed by Brahmin ruler every day in my life..get a life dude..and also i dont see any thread opened by you criticizing Chinese for the atrocities..hypocrite at its best ..please dont weep for us..we are much much better in my country so just move on :hitwall:
 
i am wondering what pakistani muslim brothern thinking about uyghur ............................................hope to see some compassion from our pakistani brothers in name of ummah
 
i am wondering what pakistani muslim brothern thinking about uyghur ............................................hope to see some compassion from our pakistani brothers in name of ummah

This query has already been answered above.
 
This query has already been answered above.

do even try to say any about them or make any thread related to that

if any one make thread about that so within an hour he will gonna ban and thread will deleted
 
इस फोरम में न जाने अपने आप को पूरे संसार के मुसल्मानों की पुलीस क्यों समझते हैं....:rofl:

तुम समझने की वजह से न्याय अंधा होता है ज़रूरत नहीं है:agree:
 
do even try to say any about them or make any thread related to that

if any one make thread about that so within an hour he will gonna ban and thread will deleted

You go ahead and make a thread.

I promise to contribute in that.
 
Not Mine but Views of an Indian about Kashmir


For the last two months only bullets are talking in Kashmir. Dozens of lives, mostly school-going young men and women, have succumbed to the bullets fired by the security forces directly into their chests. Ten such victims have died within the last twenty four hours for pelting stones and violating curfew. The central cabinet’s security committee met last night without the attendance of even the governor, the de facto ruler, of the state. Today the dummy chief minister of the state was called for a meeting in Delhi and assured that direct central rule will not be imposed on the state.

The situation in the Valley has not deteriorated within a day or two and forces across the border alone are not responsible for the chaos seen in the length and breadth of the Valley. Today’s chaos in the Valley basically reflects the failure of the central government which despite declarations and promises to the contrary, has utterly failed to negotiate with the people who matter in Kashmir, which has thrown in the dustbin the autonomy and self-rule proposals presented by its own trusted hands in the state. Musharraf and even the current Pakistani government have been time and again offering proposals to arrive at a settlement of sorts taking into account the ground realities but visionless people in Delhi have squandered the opportunity. The army bullets once again prove what our enemies claim that India is interested only in the land of Kashmir and not in its people. Manmohan is fast becoming Jagmohan for Kashmir.

The way forward is to sack the childish government of Omar Abdullah, set free all activists and political leaders arrested during the last few weeks, withdraw the army and allied forces from all inhabited areas in the Valley, impose governor raj for a fixed and declared period of six months, accept the autonomy proposal presented by the J&K Assembly during Farooq Abdullah’s tenure in 2000, announce a general amnesty for all militants and welcome those who crossed over into Pakistani Kashmir, hold a fair election with none barred from contesting and monitored by foreign observers like Jimmy Carter and representatives from the UN, EU, OIC etc and let the real winner rule the state. Meanwhile, India must engage in a serious and purposeful dialogue with Pakistan taking into account the various proposals offered by Musharraf and the current government in Islamabad.

Failure to work on these lines will be fatal. The protests in the Valley are quickly taking the shape of an intifadah which no amount of army bullets will be able to control. Rather, these criminal bullets and their innocent victims will invite foreign intervention. Let the short-sighted strategists in Delhi realise that foreign intervention is no longer a myth. A prolonged protest, wanton wholesale murder of the civilians and children by the security forces and collapse of the dummy civil government will be enough to pass a resolution in the UN to authorise foreign military intervention and the small men in Delhi will not be able to prevent such forces from landing in Srinagar. The Valley today is a Kosovo-in-waiting. Act now before it is too late.
 
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Indians are raising the point about Chinese Muslims !!! again and again.

To clear the point of view of this side of the fence I offer following comments:-

  • We are against all sort of atrocities whether committed by Chinese, Indians, Russians or Americans, not only against Muslim but against all human being.
  • We are equally concerned about the plight of Indian Chritians and even dillats who are being crushed by Brahmins rulers of India.
Do u even know who Brahmins are??
 
Whenever someone talk about ughuir,pakistanis would say it is china's internal matter(suddenly turning secular)!!religion is added to geopolitics only when it's suits pakistan.Ironically pakistanis are the people who are suffering most for this infusion of of religion in politics.
 
Do u even know who Brahmins are??

The ruthless demolition of Buddha statues by the Taliban was surprising to note that the Arya Brahmin Nazi-led Indian Govt. supported by all other brhamanical Nazis has condemned the Taliban action. It appears paradoxical that the ancestors of the present brhamanical Nazis in India want only destroyed the Buddhist statues and brutally killed the followers of Buddha in India.

Brhmin leaders like the Sankaracharyas and many kings and rulers took pride in demolishing the Buddhist images aiming at the total eradication of the Buddhist culture. Today, their descendants destroyed the Babri Masjid and they have also published a list of mosques to be destroyed in the near future.

The Brahmin, Pushyamitra Sunga, demolished 84,000 Budhist stupas
which had been built by Ashoka the Great (Romila Thaper, Ashoka and Decline of Mouryas, London, 1961, p 200). It was followed by the smashing of the Buddhist centres in Magadha. Thousands of Budhist monks were mercilessly killed. King Jalaluka destroyed the Budhist viharas within his jurisdiction on the ground that the chanting of the hymns by the Buddhist devotees disturbed his sleep. In Kashmir, King Kinnara demolished thousands of Viharas and captured the Budhists villages to please the Brahmins.

Non-Brahmins burnt alive The ruthless manner in which all the buildings at Nagarjunakonda were destroyed is simply appalling and cannot represent the work of treasure-seekers because many of the pillars, statues and sculptures have been wantonly smashed to pieces. Local tradition relates that the Brahmin teacher Sankaracharya came to Nagarjunakonda with a host of followers and destroyed the Budhist monuments. The cultivated lands on which the ruined buildings stand was a religious grant made to Sankaracharya. In Kerala, Sankaracharya and his close associate Kumarila Bhatta, an avowed enemy of Budhism, organised a religious crusade against the Buddhists. We get a vivid description of the pleasure of Sankaracharya on seeing the people of non-Brahmanic faith being burnt to death from the book Sankara Digvijaya.
 
Do u even know who Brahmins are??

When Nirupama Pathak left this remote mining region for graduate school in New Delhi, she seemed to be leaving the old India for the new. Her parents paid her tuition and did not resist when she wanted to choose her own career. But choosing a husband was another matter.
Her family was Brahmin, the highest Hindu caste, and when Ms. Pathak, 22, announced she was secretly engaged to a young man from a caste lower than hers, her family began pressing her to change her mind. They warned of social ostracism and accused her of defiling their religion.
Days after Ms. Pathak returned home in late April, she was found dead in her bedroom. The police have arrested her mother, Sudha Pathak, on suspicion of murder, while the family contends that the death was a suicide.
The postmortem report revealed another unexpected element to the case: Ms. Pathak was pregnant.
“One thing is absolutely clear,” said Prashant Bhushan, a social activist and lawyer now advising Ms. Pathak’s fiancé. “Her family was trying their level best to prevent her from marrying that boy. The pressure was such that either she was driven to suicide or she was killed.”
In India, where the tension between traditional and modern mores reverberates throughout society, Ms. Pathak’s death comes amid an apparent resurgence of so-called honor killings against couples who breach Hindu marriage traditions.
This week, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh ordered a cabinet-level commission to consider tougher penalties in honor killings.
In June, India’s Supreme Court sent notices to seven Indian states, as well as to the national government, seeking responses about what was being done to address the problem.
The phenomenon of honor killings is most prevalent in some northern states, especially Haryana, where village caste councils, or khap panchayats, often operate as an extralegal morals police force, issuing edicts against couples who marry outside their caste or who marry within the same village — considered a religious violation since villages are often regarded as extended families.
Even as the court system has sought to curb these councils, politicians have hesitated, since the councils often control significant vote blocs in local elections.
New cases of killings or harassment appear in the Indian news media almost every week. Last month, the police arrested three men for the honor killings of a couple in New Delhi who had married outside their castes, as well as the murder of a woman who eloped with a man from another caste.
Two of the suspects are accused of murdering their sisters, and an uncle of the slain couple spoke of their murders as justifiable.
“What is wrong in it?” the uncle, Dharmaveer Nagar, told the Indian news media. “Murder is wrong, but this is socially the best thing that has been done.”
Intercaste marriages are protected under Indian law, yet social attitudes remain largely resistant. In a 2006 survey cited in a United Nations report, 76 percent of respondents deemed the practice unacceptable. An overwhelming majority of Hindu couples continue to marry within their castes, and newspapers are filled with marital advertisements in which parents, seeking to arrange a marriage for a son or daughter, specify caste among lists of desired attributes like profession and educational achievement.
“This is part and parcel of our culture, that you marry into your own caste,” said Dharmendra Pathak, the father of Ms. Pathak, during an interview in his home. “Every society has its own culture. Every society has its own traditions.”
Yet Indian society is also rapidly changing, with a new generation more likely to mix with people from different backgrounds as young people commingle on college campuses or in the workplace.
Ms. Pathak had studied journalism at the Indian Institute of Mass Communications in New Delhi before taking a job at a financial newspaper. At school, she had met Priyabhanshu Ranjan, a top student whose family was from a middle-upper caste, the Kayastha.
“The day I proposed, she said, ‘My family will not accept this. My family is very conservative,’ ” Mr. Ranjan recalled. “I used to try to convince her that once we got married, they would accept it.”
Ms. Pathak deliberated over the proposal for months before accepting in early 2009. Convinced her family would disapprove, she kept her engagement a secret for more than a year, until she learned that her father was interviewing prospective Brahmin grooms in New Delhi to arrange a marriage for her. Her parents were also renovating the family home for a wedding celebration.
Ms. Pathak called her oldest brother, Samarendra, who spent the next week trying to change her mind.
“What I told her was that the decision you have taken — there is nothing wrong with it,” he said. “But the society we live in will not accept it. You can’t transform society in a day. It takes time.”
When her father learned of the engagement, he wrote his daughter a letter and paid a surprise visit to New Delhi.
In the letter, the father acknowledged that such marriages were allowed under India’s Constitution, but argued that the Constitution had existed for only decades while Hindu religious beliefs dated back thousands of years.
At one point, Ms. Pathak’s mother called, crying, asking if they had wronged her in a past life.
The death of Ms. Pathak remains under investigation. Her body was discovered in her upstairs bedroom on the morning of April 29, while her mother was the only person at home. Initially, neighbors and family members said she had died from electrocution, but then later changed their story to say she had hanged herself. The police arrested the mother after the postmortem report concluded that Ms. Pathak had been suffocated.
But Ms. Pathak’s father and her two brothers have argued that the postmortem was flawed and claimed that her death had been a suicide. The family produced a suicide note and persuaded a local magistrate to order an investigation into Mr. Ranjan, the boyfriend — which his supporters have described as politically motivated.
Ms. Pathak’s pregnancy has also complicated the case. Mr. Ranjan said that he had been unaware of her condition, and her family told the police that they, too, had been unaware. But in an interview, the father and brothers changed their story, saying that Ms. Pathak confessed her pregnancy to her mother on the morning of her death.
For now, the case has polarized opinion. In Koderma, supporters of the Pathak family have rallied for the release of the mother from jail. In New Delhi, former classmates of Ms. Pathak and other supporters have held candlelight vigils, calling for the case to be prosecuted as an honor killing.
“This kind of the thing is increasing everywhere,” said Girija Vyas, a member of Parliament and the president of the National Commission of Women. “There should not be these things in the 21st century. These things must be stopped.” In India, Castes, Honor and Killings Intertwine.
 

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