Ban Ki-Moon, UN Secretary General Reveals that he is of Vietnamese descent

[Viet]

In Tang dynasty namviet was still a province of China like US was part of English colonies in 1770s. It's strange that you decendants of Hans claim superiority over Chinese. Don't count Chinese as related to "slave girls of Viet", just type your male genes to see how many of you are actual decendants of migrated Hans. There is a word called "disgrateful". It's what Viet means.

you fool mixed up everything. first, it is not namviet 南越, but annam 安南. different period. different time.
second, calling a nation as disgrateful is wrong and inappropriate. otherwise, you are disgrateful to America, Japan and USSR as they helped you so much, but you turned against them.

last, I wonder why you retard jump here into the discussion as it is not about China. I still have your insults in mind in another thread.

 

[DaiViet]

In Tang dynasty namviet was still a province of China like US was part of English colonies in 1770s. It's strange that you decendants of Hans claim superiority over Chinese. Don't count Chinese as related to "slave girls of Viet", just type your male genes to see how many of you are actual decendants of migrated Hans. There is a word called "disgrateful". It's what Viet means.

Are you from the moon? Recent archilogist reveal the earlist human came from southern China and Vietnam and so their civilization wet rice culture. The human then gradually expand northward.

The Han race recent expanding to South about 1,000 years ago. The term Han race is vague by itself. During age of conquest, each tribe, kingdom entities think of themselves seperately. The Han is the result of conquest of Han empire in northern China, later expanding south.

No evidence supports Human migration from north to south. If speaking evidences it is the Vietnamese + southern chinese make the Han or the african make human.

 

[alaungphaya]

Interesting but I see no evidence in non-Vietnamese articles.

Are you from the moon? Recent archilogist reveal the earlist human came from southern China and Vietnam and so their civilization wet rice culture. The human then gradually expand northward.

The Han race recent expanding to South about 1,000 years ago. The term Han race is vague by itself. During age of conquest, each tribe, kingdom entities think of themselves seperately. The Han is the result of conquest of Han empire in northern China, later expanding south.

No evidence supports Human migration from north to south. If speaking evidences it is the Vietnamese + southern chinese make the Han or the african make human.

What are you talking about? Provide some links.

 

[Kyle Sun]

holy shit!

Is he one of your 100,000 undercovers?

 

[DaiViet]

Interesting but I see no evidence in non-Vietnamese articles.


What are you talking about? Provide some links.

Google is your best friend. Keyword DNA, Genetic Asia, Mongoloid, oldest human south china, wet rice culture. You need at least 1000 hours to get this kind of knowledge. I spent 1 year read countless research papers to get that.

 

[Rechoice]

holy shit!

Is he one of your 100,000 undercovers?

What do you mean ? is this Ma Yuan soldier ?

Their descents are living in Guandong and Guanxi, southern Chinese is not pure Han Chinese, they are mixed with Bai Yue people.

 

[VALKRYIE]

Lý Long Tường (李龍祥; 1174–?) was a prince of the Ly Dynasty of Dai Viet (in modern-day Vietnam) and later became Lee of Hwasan, a general of Korea. He is an ancestor of one branch of the Lee (or Rhee) family today in both South and North Korea.

Tuong was born in 1174, the seventh son of Emperor Ly Anh Tong (who reigned from 1138–1175) and his consort Le My Nga. He was appointed the Great National Tutor.

In 1225, Tran Thu Do overthrew the Ly Dynasty by introducing his nephew Tran Canh to the imperial court to serve the incumbent Empress Ly Chieu Hoang, he then orchestrated a political marriage between Tran Canh and Ly Chieu Hoang and thereafter forced Ly Chieu Hoang to abdicate in favour of her husband Tran Canh. This marked the end of the Ly Dynasty and the beginning of the Tran Dynasty. With the Tran family having just gained the throne, Tran Thu Do ordered the massacre of the Ly family members and forced all of its descendants to change their surname to Nguyen, and sent them to the northern mountainous areas.

LIFE IN EXILE

In 1226, (Kien Trung's year of the Second Tran Dynasty of Thai Tong), in order to avoid further bloodshed by the Tran family, Ly Long Tuong, together with 6000 mandarins and servants departed from the Than Phu (now Thanh Hoa Province) estuary and fled to theSouth China Sea in three large ships. They carried relics with them, including the imperial crown, imperial costumes, and the heaven imperial sword (Thượng phương bảo kiếm). After a month on the high seas, they were forced to land in Taiwan due to a typhoon. When Ly Long Tuong decided to leave, his son Ly Long Hien was severely ill and had to stay in Taiwan together with 200 mandarins, followers and servants. Ly Long Tuong continued northwards to Ongjin County and then on to Haeju,Hwanghae in the Yellow Sea. Legend has it that the Korean king Kojong of the Goryeo Dynasty (1192–1259) had dreamt of a grand phoenix flying from the south and landing in his nation. Therefore, he ordered the local government of Hae-ju to give the Vietnamese royal refugees a red-carpeted welcome and allow them to live in a manor in his country.

Tuong and his companions started their culture of fishing and breeding. He also opened a school for literature (poetry, rhythmical prose and worship rituals) and a school to teach martial arts - the art of war. Thousands of local students joined his two schools.

DEFEAT OF THE MONGOL INVADERS

In 1232, an army of the Mongol Empire led by General Sartailaunched an attack on Korea by both sea and land. The troops, using the waterways, attacked Hwang-hae but were defeated by the army and the local inhabitants led by Ly Long Tuong. Ly Long Tuong always rode a white horse and as a result, was dubbed the "White Horse General."

In 1253, The Mongol army led by the great Khan Mongcalaunched a second attack on Korea. The Yuan-Mongol army, led by Tang Ji, attacked Hwang-hae overland and by using the waterways. Ly Long Tuong, although by then over 70 years old, led the army and the local inhabitants to victory after a five-month campaign. As a result of this important triumph, the Korean king renamed Chen-san (Hangul: ; Hanja: 鎭山) Hwa-san (花山) and appointed Ly Long Tuong Hwa-san a General. The location of the Mongol army surrender was called the Gate of Surrender Acceptance (受降門; Su-hang-mun). The Korean king also had a pillar erected here to honour Ly Long Tuong. (The pillar can still be seen today).

When Ly Long Tuong died, he was buried at the foot of Mount Di A near Panmunjeom (板門店). The mountain peak (Kwang-dea) where Ly Long Tuong always sat to look southwards and cried is now called the "Peak of Nostalgia" (望國壇).

DESCENDANTS IN KOREA

Today, there are some 1500 households in North Korea and 600 in South Korea with connections to Ly Long Tuong.[3] A descendant of Ly Long Tuong, Lee Chang Kun (Ly Xuong Can), the director of Golden Bridge Finance Group visits Ly's temple in Dinh Bang village in Bac Ninh Province every year with his family living and sends money to help in the reconstruction of the temple. He has also invested in local projects and together with this family took up Vietnamese citizenship in 2010. His son born in 1997 was named Ly Viet Quoc.[4] At the end of 1995, a report on Ly Long Tuong was broadcast by South Korean TV channel KBS.

Lý Long Tường | Project Gutenberg Self-Publishing - eBooks | Read eBooks online

This is interesting, Ly Long Tuong's son landed in Taiwan. He stay due to illness and his loyal subjects stay with him. There are some Taiwanese clans with the last name Li who are actually of Vietnamese descendants.

 

[Rechoice]

almost navy of Dai Viet had escaped from coupe of Tran Thu Do and followed Ly Long Tuong to go to oversea.

 

[alaungphaya]

Google is your best friend. Keyword DNA, Genetic Asia, Mongoloid, oldest human south china, wet rice culture. You need at least 1000 hours to get this kind of knowledge. I spent 1 year read countless research papers to get that.

Peer reviewed academic papers? I can't seem to find them. Google doesn't seem to help. Why don't you just link some cursory material?

 

[DaiViet]

Peer reviewed academic papers? I can't seem to find them. Google doesn't seem to help. Why don't you just link some cursory material?

Pathways to Asian Civilizations: Tracing the Origins and Spread of Rice and Rice Cultures | Dorian Fuller - Academia.edu

One sample. Dont ask me for second sample. I spent 1000 hours I expect you do so. Dont be lazy.

 

[Rechoice]

Ethnicity is based on both bloodline and culture. Like India and Pakistan, bloodline so far don't work there.
Can you tell the differences of bloodline?
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Pakistanis and Indian after 1947, is like to China mainland and Taiwan after 1949. or South and north Korea after 1953. This matter is related to nationality only, not to ethnicity.

My opinion is that, one ehnic group of people must be satisfied or based on 4 criteria.

1. shared same ancestor, "of the same blood".
2. shared same sounds in speaking, "speaking the same language" (pls don't mixe wth the writting characters).
3. shared same history.
4. shared customs "customs of like fashion". (its culture ?)

 

[Fattyacids]

What do you mean ? is this Ma Yuan soldier ?

Their descents are living in Guandong and Guanxi, southern Chinese is not pure Han Chinese, they are mixed with Bai Yue people.

Baiyue are extinct thousand years ago, their relative are Zhuang and other minorities in Guangxi. Vast majority in the south are Han Chinese.

You have a habit of using race/ethnicity to serve your trolling purpose. And you prey on Chinese who isn't knowledgeable on the subject. Does it help you get over your inferiority complex? That Kinh Vietnamese don't even have same blood line. North Vietnamese are Austro-Asiatic people mixed with Tai-Kadai/Chinese. Central Vietnam are mostly Cham people (Austronesian). South Vietnam are Khmer Cambodian people--ironically closer to your Austro-Asiatic origin.

You are not even native to North Vietnam. Early Dongsong culture belonged to Tai-Kadai people. Your ancestors stole their history and mythology, calling it your own after you came to power. Even claiming South China as your home land.

This is your native land before you moved up to North Vietnam during Chinese rule.

 

[Place Of Space]

Pakistanis and Indian after 1947, is like to China mainland and Taiwan after 1949. or South and north Korea after 1953. This matter is related to nationality only, not to ethnicity.

My opinion is that, one ehnic group of people must be satisfied or based on 4 criteria.

1. shared same ancestor, "of the same blood".
2. shared same sounds in speaking, "speaking the same language" (pls don't mixe wth the writting characters).
3. shared same history.
4. shared customs "customs of like fashion". (its culture ?)

Culture includes language, history and customs...

 

[Rechoice]

Culture includes language, history and customs...

When you commbinate three criteria in one concept, it is vague.

In China, Tibetan is classificated as one different ethnic grouple people, differed from Han Chinese, thought this people do speak Sino-Tibetan language. Their history and custom is different from you too..

 

[Place Of Space]

When you commbinate three criteria in one concept, it is vague.

In China, Tibetan is classificated as one different ethnic grouple people, differed from Han Chinese, thought this people do speak Sino-Tibetan language. Their history and custom is different from you too..

Both Han and Tibetan were of ancient Qiang origin 古羌人. This is the same history remembery. We have almost same bloodline. The 4000 meter mountain circumstance made the appearance some difference. Very interesting proof, this appearance is not inherits if you know Han-Tibetan parents' kids look like.
About customs, yes, lots of differences, religion are the Buddhism, though Han believe as well Confucianism, Taoism.