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Dams being built by India on River Indus pose danger to N Areas, Basha Dam, KKH

And there is always the China card ofcourse. :enjoy:
China's threatened India to change course of the Brahmaputra...it can be done with more political will.

China has no capability to do that. It has failed miserably with the three Gorge dam. The costs have been astronomical and there is no appetite to try another disaster.

Don't wait with baited breath for that to happen.

And guess who will be more impacted if they try that disaster? Bangladesh!

Are you still waiting for China to do something that doesn't benefit you in the least but will harm your "Muslim brothers" in Bangladesh!

Frankly most posts here remind me of a song:

Kyon Aajkal neend kam khwaab jyaada hain!

Lagataa Khuda kaa koi nek iraada hai.

PS: I even digged out the video for you guys.

 
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We don't have to, Kashmir will never be a part of India even if you send a million troops to supress its freedom. Your hindu governments will do the rest.
If you think India or Kashmir is immune to global awakening of muslims then you're being naive.

I actually think that Pakistani's are brainwashed now. Whats up with this cr@p---'hindu govt'? Your acting like that very kid about whom the joke was posted. The Pakistani kid who thinks he's an Arab and India is Hindu and Zionists and whatnot.

The govt is voted to power, the christians, hindu's, muslims, etc-all are present in the govt as they have been voted by their respective constituencies and people.
 
For the sake of humouring people here who have a military bent of mind.

Do you think that India would sit quiet, do nothing, if its damns are bombed or there are sub kilton nuclear explosions in its territory? You expect that India would not retaliate in any military manner?
 
For the sake of humouring people here who have a military bent of mind.

Do you think that India would sit quiet, do nothing, if its damns are bombed or there are sub kilton nuclear explosions in its territory? You expect that India would not retaliate in any military manner?

Well now, wasn't that the exact same question we asked when all the Indians talked about striking inside Pakistani territory during the Mumbai conflict?
What smart-a$$ answers did we receive back then..?
I thought so.
 
Check the IWT, India has control of three eastern rivers which do not include India. :coffee:


Pakistan is an agricultural country. Eighty percent of its agricultural output comes from the Indus Basin. Pakistan has one of the world's largest canal systems built much before Independence by the British. After Independence, problems between the two countries arose over the distribution of water. Rivers flow into Pakistan territory from across India. In 1947, when Punjab was divided between the two countries, many of the canal head-works remained with India. The division of Punjab thus created major problems for irrigation in Pakistan.

On April 1, 1948, India stopped the supply of water to Pakistan from every canal flowing from India to Pakistan. Pakistan protested and India finally agreed on an interim agreement on May 4, 1948. This agreement was not a permanent solution; therefore, Pakistan approached the World Bank in 1952 to help settle the problem permanently. Negotiations were carried out between the two countries through the offices of the World Bank. It was finally in Ayub Khan's regime that an agreement was signed between India and Pakistan in September 1960. This agreement is known as the Indus Water Treaty.

This treaty divided the use of rivers and canals between the two countries. Pakistan obtained exclusive rights for the three western rivers, namely Indus, Jehlum and Chenab. And India retained rights to the three eastern rivers, namely Ravi, Beas and Sutluj. The treaty also guaranteed ten years of uninterrupted water supply. During this period Pakistan was to build huge dams, financed partly by long-term World Bank loans and compensation money from India. Three multipurpose dams, Warsak, Mangla and Tarbela were built. A system of eight link canals was also built, and the remodeling of existing canals was carried out. Five barrages and a gated siphon were also constructed under this treaty.


Neo, please check annexure D of IWT, it allows India to construct run-of-the-river hydroelectric projects.
 
The link reports india is harbouring/controlling the water from the Himlayers via hunreds of dam projects to power india,s future energy needs.

Pakistan worried about drop on its level supplied by upto 50% by 2020.

Could turn pakistan into a desert

India constructing three dams in held Kashmir

I have read this report and India is also building dam near Bangladesh side.. India is calling trouble upon it self. It will be a total destruction of india because of the Outcome of this stupid indian decision

What else we can expect from India
 
This move will serve as ammo for Pak as the world is increasingly taking more interest in the Kashmir issue and eventually international intervention will happen.
Imo there is no way Obama can ignore Kashmir issue as he is planning to station more troops in Afghanistan and will generally rely more on Pakistan for whatever they are planning there.
 
India needs the power for its development. if the dams are legal as per the indus water treaty, then india must go ahead.

if the dams are illegal, then pakistan can go to the arbitrar, instead of blaming all their problems on india.
 
This sounds like a bad situation for Pakistan.

If i have this right all the WATER supply runs From Himlayers a massive mountain range deviding india from Tibet/china into Kashmir and the punjab.

(which punjab india or punjab pakistan) ..

So indians are building dams on indian soil indian land.

WITH THE INTENTION of supplying more energy to its massive population and large economy.

BUT PAKISTAN is fearful they will get less water via these indian rivers which of course run into pakistan.

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IF my summary is right then the only way PAKISTAN can GUARANTEE supply 100% is to take those rivers and that land. THAT means annexing a huge part of Kashmir & punjab. BY FORCE...

or

TO GET UN INVOLVEMENT inparticular USA cause i don,t see any other nation worrying india too much.
 
So indians are building dams on indian soil indian land.

WITH THE INTENTION of supplying more energy to its massive population and large economy.

BUT PAKISTAN is fearful they will get less water via these indian rivers which of course run into pakistan.

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IF my summary is right then the only way PAKISTAN can GUARANTEE supply 100% is to take those rivers and that land. THAT means annexing a huge part of Kashmir & punjab. BY FORCE...

or

TO GET UN INVOLVEMENT inparticular USA cause i don,t see any other nation worrying india too much.

Your first FALSE clim is calling it "indian river". When a river crosses int'l border its no longer country specific. Besides, int'l law and convention (depends on capability of enforcing such law) does provide righsts for lower riparian country of rightful share.

But as you and Indian suggested and implied only language India would accept is force. This is worse kind of terrorism India committing, all under veil of civil democratic side show.
 
I have read this report and India is also building dam near Bangladesh side.. India is calling trouble upon it self. It will be a total destruction of india because of the Outcome of this stupid indian decision

What else we can expect from India

Care to explain this 'total destruction '?
 
Controlled underground nuclear explosions for engineering purpose only. It would require sub kiloton yield and we've tested that.

No doubt you tested it. But in your territory. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming that since the river's flow from India to pakistan the said nuclear explosions would have to be carried out in Indian territory ---which starts a nuclear war---which causes a holocaust that would probably leave no one on either side of the LOC to actually use the water of the Indus.
 

MULTAN (February 24 2009): The Anjuman Kashtkaran Punjab (AKP), Pakistan Kissan Board (PKB), and other farmer associations have expressed fear that farmers of Punjab and Sindh would have to bear the brunt of the Indian plan of construction of three dams on the Indus, as then that country would be in a destructive position to control the water flows into Pakistan for late rabi and early kharif crops, hence destroying agriculture in the provinces.

Khurshid Kanju, president of PKB, Abdul Ali Zakir Usmani, president of AKP, and Khurshid-ul-Haq of Farmers Association, on Monday demanded of the government to discus the consequences of the Indian decision to build three dams on the Indus, the lifeline for Pakistan, in total contravention of the Indus Basin Treaty.

They said that farmers of the country felt strongly about India's plan to build three dams on the Indus at a time when water is getting scarce every year and irrigation had become a serious challenge. "The Indus is our lifeline, and should be our top priority. We cannot trust India when it comes to water issues, and one thing should be very clear that India has always violated the treaty and tried to pressurise Pakistan through various tactics. The most recent example is blockage of the Chenab flows when they were crucial for our rice crop. It has caused irreparable damage and the farmers of Pakistan suffered immensely," they said.

They said that the new planned Indian dams could play havoc with Pakistan if its reservoirs collapsed, for any reason, releasing huge quantity of water and causing flashfloods that would devastate large areas of land in Pakistan.

"It will enable India to undertake construction of the river diversion works, even on the Chenab, and other irrigation works with storage from the Jhelum and the Indus," they remarked.

They further said that when completed, the projects would enable India to control, or throttle, the rivers' flows in its favour, making Pakistan bow to their hegemony. They said the Indian control on river waters would eventually make barren Pakistan's main productive provinces of Sindh and Punjab. They hoped that the government would not ignore this important matter, like Baglihar and other water treaty-related matters, when India always won its point and Pakistan had been denied its rightful share of water as embodied in the treaty.

They Said: "Had Pakistan constructed Kalabagh Dam, it would have been very easy to prevent India from using Pakistan's water, as we would have argued that it fell under committed water usage. But when about 35 to 40 million acre-feet (MAF) water was going into sea every year, it was not possible to claim that India was violating the rights of the lower riparian state."

They appreciated the government plan to send a team of water experts, headed by the "one and only" Commissioner of Indus Water, Jamaat Ali Shah since time immemorial, and stressed upon the government to include specific stakeholders from Sindh and Punjab in the team as well, who are the main victims of the new Indian conspiracy.
 

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