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No need for 126 Rafales, NDA will buy only 36: Parrikar
New Delhi, May 31, 2015, (PTI):

Terming the UPA's proposed deal for 126 Rafale fighter jets as "economically unviable" and not required, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar has said the NDA government will buy only 36 of the French aircraft, to be used for strategic purposes, and no more.

Parrikar also raised questions on the tendering process initiated by former Defence Minister A K Antony and said his predecessor had "hammered" the tender in such a way that the Rafale deal would have never seen the light of the day.

Rejecting criticism from the Congress that Prime Minister Narendra Modi had bypassed the Finance Ministry and the Defence Acquisition Council, the apex body of the Defence Ministry that takes the call on military projects, Parrikar said "the deal is yet to be inked" and they should hold their horses till the process was complete.

He expressed confidence that the Committee, that has been set up to work out the contract, would complete the task in the next 2-3 months. The Modi government has scrapped the over USD 20 billion deal for 126 Rafales more than three years after Dassault was declared the lowest bidder under UPA's tenure.

During his visit to France last month, the Prime Minister announced the decision to buy 36 of these jets in a fly-away condition under a government-to-government (G2G) contract. Parrikar underlined that the decision to acquire 36 Rafales came in view of the "urgent requirement" of Indian Air Force.

"We are not buying the rest. We are only buying the direct 36," Parrikar told PTI when asked what will happen to rest of the requirement. He said that the UPA deal for 126 Rafales was way too expensive and it would have hampered other modernisation plans of the Indian military.

The deal would have required around Rs 1.3 lakh crore over a period of 10-11 years, he added. "Would there be any money for any other work?" he asked. "I also feel like having a BMW and Mercedes. But I don't because I can't afford it. First I can't afford it and second I don't need it. So, 126 Rafales was economically unviable. It was not required," Parrikar said.

Attacking Antony over the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft tendering process, Parrikar said that his UPA predecessor had "hammered" the tender in such a way that the Rafales would have never seen the light of day.

He also wondered why Antony was trying to force the French firm Dassault Aviation, manufacturer of the Rafale, to come back to him even after it was selected as the lowest bidder.

"After L1 was determined, he said go ahead with cost negotiations and, after negotiations are complete, go back and check on methodology of L1, whether it was correct or not?

"Why did it happen? There are only two reasons. You are forcing your supplier to come back to you. What is the reason? He (Antony) should answer," Parrikar said refusing to elaborate further.

The minister underlined that Rafales are not a replacement for MiG-21s. He said that the MiGs would be replaced by the indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft. Explaining the strike capability of the Rafales and the kind of weapons it is fitted with, Parrikar said the French fighter jet was a "deep-striking fourth generation plus" aircraft.

Asked if the Rafale deal meant that the Modi government will only go through G2G deals for strategic assets in defence, Parrikar said the Defence Procurement Procedure does not prevent the government from using the G2G route.

"That Rafale deal (MMRCA) of his (Antony) through RFP would have never seen the light of the day. Wherever there is a need of defence of this country, I will not hesitate to advise the Prime Minister to go for government-to-government deal," he said.
 
I hope it is not for the Strategic command for nuke deliveries!

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French Rafale F3 shown carrying an ASMP-A ( Nuclear capable Cruise missiles ) in the center of the aircraft.


France uses Nuclear air-launched cruise missile; Air-Sol Moyenne Portée (ASMP) to deliver singular variable yield ‘TN 81’ Nuke warhead which will be replaced by new cruise missile which will have (TNA) 200 kT warhead. French airforce has Dassault Mirage 2000N and Rafale, fighter jets which have been deputed for Air delivered Nukes.

When it comes to India.

IAF’s Sukhoi-30 can also carry Indian nukes, but Experts say that that job has been reserved for Mirage-2000 aircrafts in IAF for some time now and will remain so till it is replaced by a better jet.
 
Dassault Aviation upbeat on Rafale, rolls out Falcon 5X | Zee News

Last Updated: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - 18:00

Bordeaux: The head of Dassault Aviation said on Tuesday he had not given up hope of selling extra Rafales to India on top of a deal for 36 aircraft being negotiated by the French government.


Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi last month announced plans to buy 36 Rafales under a government-to-government contract with France, leaving doubts over the status of earlier plans to buy 126 planes, including 18 to be built in France.

"We`ll see about the second stage and how that evolves once the contract for 36 has been signed," Dassault Chief Executive Eric Trappier said at the rollout of a new business jet.

"I am not disappointed to drop from 126 to 36 planes, because the way I look at it, we are going up from 18 to 36," he told reporters, referring to the aircraft to be assembled at Dassault`s own production line at Merignac, southwest France.

"We know that the Indian Air Force`s needs far exceed 36 planes," he added.

India has rowed back from the commitment of the last government to buy 126 Rafales, saying the twin-engined planes -- which would be able to fly over the Himalayas with a full weapons payload -- would be too expensive.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar was quoted on Sunday as saying the original planned purchase was "economically unviable" and that India would not buy the remaining aircraft.

Trappier said Dassault Aviation hoped to win a fourth Rafale export contract this year after landing contracts in Egypt and Qatar, as well as the planned purchases of 36 planes from India.

He was speaking as Dassault showed off its second new business jet in six months, with an unveiling ceremony for the Falcon 5X.

The USD 45 million jet boasts the company`s largest business jet cabin and can carry up to 16 passengers.

It is expected to make its maiden flight in the summer and enter service in 2017 despite a delay in certifying its Safran Silvercrest engines.

Dassault is pitching it at clients in Asia and the Middle East and has already lined up "significant" orders, Trappier said.

The French company competes mainly with General Dynamics unit Gulfstream and Canada`s Bombardier for sales of business jets, which make up 73 percent of revenues.

It is predicting a dip in Falcon deliveries to 65 aircraft in 2015 from 66 in 2014, but expects demand to improve as the economy picks up in the United States, the world`s largest market for business jets.

Reuters
 
Lack of DSI is delaying it:yu::yu:.. Could you help??

oh come on don't fall for an obsolete technology .... we send you a gift of our latest & most advance technology .... but rather to learn from it you people are just wasting it ......

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oh come on don't fall for an obsolete technology .... we send you a gift of our latest & most advance technology .... but rather to learn from it you people are just wasting it ......

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We tried it, but it does not suit us.. It gives results which suggest that it would only benefit Pakistanis.. Oh Fishh.....
 
Tendering Process In India’s Defence Procurement Contracts – Stay Awake Issues! | idrw.org

Dassault Aviation upbeat on Rafale, rolls out Falcon 5X | Zee News

Last Updated: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - 18:00

Bordeaux: The head of Dassault Aviation said on Tuesday he had not given up hope of selling extra Rafales to India on top of a deal for 36 aircraft being negotiated by the French government.


Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi last month announced plans to buy 36 Rafales under a government-to-government contract with France, leaving doubts over the status of earlier plans to buy 126 planes, including 18 to be built in France.

"We`ll see about the second stage and how that evolves once the contract for 36 has been signed," Dassault Chief Executive Eric Trappier said at the rollout of a new business jet.

"I am not disappointed to drop from 126 to 36 planes, because the way I look at it, we are going up from 18 to 36," he told reporters, referring to the aircraft to be assembled at Dassault`s own production line at Merignac, southwest France.

"We know that the Indian Air Force`s needs far exceed 36 planes," he added.

India has rowed back from the commitment of the last government to buy 126 Rafales, saying the twin-engined planes -- which would be able to fly over the Himalayas with a full weapons payload -- would be too expensive.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar was quoted on Sunday as saying the original planned purchase was "economically unviable" and that India would not buy the remaining aircraft.

Trappier said Dassault Aviation hoped to win a fourth Rafale export contract this year after landing contracts in Egypt and Qatar, as well as the planned purchases of 36 planes from India.

He was speaking as Dassault showed off its second new business jet in six months, with an unveiling ceremony for the Falcon 5X.

The USD 45 million jet boasts the company`s largest business jet cabin and can carry up to 16 passengers.

It is expected to make its maiden flight in the summer and enter service in 2017 despite a delay in certifying its Safran Silvercrest engines.

Dassault is pitching it at clients in Asia and the Middle East and has already lined up "significant" orders, Trappier said.

The French company competes mainly with General Dynamics unit Gulfstream and Canada`s Bombardier for sales of business jets, which make up 73 percent of revenues.

It is predicting a dip in Falcon deliveries to 65 aircraft in 2015 from 66 in 2014, but expects demand to improve as the economy picks up in the United States, the world`s largest market for business jets.

Reuters

India has rowed back from the commitment of the last government to buy 126 Rafales, saying the twin-engined planes -- which would be able to fly over the Himalayas with a full weapons payload

The head of Dassault Aviation said on Tuesday he had not given up hope of selling extra Rafales to India on top of a deal for 36 aircraft being negotiated by the French government.

These parts of OP are important.
 
oh come on don't fall for an obsolete technology .... we send you a gift of our latest & most advance technology .... but rather to learn from it you people are just wasting it ......

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Pigeons are use for spying and history is full of such cases.

OK in that case "Hamara Kabootar Reha Karo" .......

So does the Pakistan Government accepts that its a carrier pigeon ?
 
1 of January 2nd Thread started on Indian Rafael Deal .Today 6th of June still no news. Tomorrow 1st of January Year 2025. Rafael deal still under discussion.
 

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