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Decline and fall of the American empire

Interesting article. But what I strongly disagree on is how addiction to pornography is a symptom or contributing factor to a declining empire. I watch pornography often (mostly hentai anime), but I don't drink or do drugs, and I even got a master's degree in engineering and going for a Ph.D. Therefore, how does pornography contribute to my downfall that would affect America??????????????

Is this guy a conservative or what?
 
The issue is actually about politicians. Dumping China will hurt in the short run, but will help the economy in the long run. But polliticians only considers short term in politics. It is impossible to find a politician who can think beyond the next election.

There's nothing to dump. The US buys from China because there's nowhere else to buy from. No other nation combines high labor flexibility, highly educated workers and world class infrastructure.
 
By figures American's consumers debt has been the lowest in it's existances today....

The problem is not the spending because there is surplus of money, but more towards the policies that are being implamented........

I am not sure what you do for living or not but you are obviously clueless.


American consumers represent two-thirds of the America economy where the other third is government and corporation spending. So if there is a cutback on consumer purchases due to uncertainty about job security or layoffs, the American economy will go into a recession. Now the economy is predicated on continual consumer spending. In short, it is the consumers’ perception of the future that causes them to open their checkbooks and spend, or to close their checkbooks and reduce spending. It is the psychological impressions of the consumer that determines whether the economy is in a recession or has prosperity.

Consumer Debt

One of the biggest hurdles facing the American economy is consumer debt. The current debt of consumers is $2.2 trillion as of the first quarter 2001, which includes credit cards, mortgages, and car loans debt. This debt averages out to be $12,000 for each household of which $8,000 is credit card debt.

What matters worse is that interest has to be paid on this debt. Now interest paid on this debt reduces consumers’ ability to make new purchases, which places a drag on the economy and contracts it further, compounding the problem

Newsweek magazine in their 8/27/01 cover article offers a bleak outlook. “Sixty percent of American families actually spend more than their after-tax income while consumers spend $50 billion more than they earned in April alone. Even more astounding is the fact that 32 million families (i.e. 80 million people) run an annual average deficit of $8,160. These people are exhausting their savings, selling off their investments, and still running huge debts. It will take very little to push them into bankruptcy. For many, just a few months out of work or with reduced income will do the trick.”

With increase bankruptcies, raising unemployment and an economy that is slowing down, this causes consumers to use their credit cards less and drastically cut all forms of borrowing. Now these consumer cutbacks have tremendous implications on the economy and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Most Americans have no idea how money is created in the American economy. Without the consumers and corporation borrowing, there is no new money created, which an expanding economy needs and the only money in existence is checking and saving accounts and investment accounts. In short, there is no money in circulation if there is no debt created.

What does this mean? The McAlvany Intelligence Advisor states the Federal Reserve Bank’s worst fear. “The Fed’s greatest fear is that at some point the consumer may stop borrowing, that he (or she) may slow down or stop their spending, and start saving. Everything the Fed has done both financially and propaganda wise in recent years has been designed to keep the public spending, borrowing and not saving. It has been the Fed’s only way of perpetuating the bubble, which it created.”

Now consumers are up to their eyeballs in debt and there is no way to correct this situation except for massive personal bankruptcies or allow time for the consumers to pay down their debt. Both scenarios mean that the prospect of the economy is a downturn.


And this is the beauty, Which International Credit Agencies are we talking about???????????

The answer is America's own credit bureau is talking about it's own Credit regarding, How American is Conducting..... Even though I do not agree with what the current Administration policies are, but it is full of crap when some reporter in England is talking about Credit Agencies that regulates the Countries around the World...

Just cause these credit Agencies are located in USA don't mean they are American controlled and it will make no difference to reality what an Indian pretending to no about how the USA economy works thinks .its a consumer driven economy and no longer manufacturing based you agreeing with current admin makes jack all of a difference.
Oh hate to do this to you but Chinese economy is no longer dependent on wall marts of the world or call centers but in order for me to explain this to you i am sure i will need pictures or pop up pages.


And for future Leave Pakistan out of the discussion if it has nothing to do with it i am sure you cant digest any thing unless you talk about Pakistan.
 
I don't think we'll live to see the total disintegration of this evil empire. The process has certainly begun but it is hard for many to recognise the signs. People have to have a thorough knowledge of economics to understand the process. Very few in the world can comprehend the complex changes that lead to the dissolution of such a vast and powerful empire.

keep making castle of foam... Many dreamed about Decline of America.. They declined But America is standing tall.. Nation which stand on Democracy never Fall... Normal hitch and glitch are acceptable...

Nation ruled by Military, Communist, Dictators are prone to decline...
 
Distance from my home to USA=approx 8000 miles

Distance from my home to the nearest US base= approx 2500 km

Like this US has around 700+ bases around the world. Talk to me when this bases are atleast reduced by 1/4th

Even if US loses its super power status (which is the wet dream of Jihadis and Leftists alike), due to the sheer size, population and industrial & military might US would continue to be a major power.
 
My friend, your desire to tell the truth is commendable. However, sometimes your messages are not clear due to some errors in grammar. There are ways to improve your English, I am sure gradually your English will improve.
Of course what I say is not a truth but an illusion of mine in your thought. I always do not care about grammar.If my messages are not clear,let it be.
 
Of course what I say is not a truth but an illusion of mine in your thought. I always do not care about grammar.If my messages are not clear,let it be.

As a native English speaker, I greatly admire those, like yourself, who participate in this forum in English, a second language for them. Please don't be bothered by people who put you down because of grammar or small word usage errors. Your English is perfectly understandable and that is all that matters here. On the other hand, I completely disagree with your opinions. The USA is not and has never been an empire, evil or otherwise. It is a leading nation because of its political and economic system. I believe that by the time of the 22nd Century all nations will have moved to a common, successful political/economic system. I believe that that ultimate convergence will look more like the USA's present system than China's present system. If I am right, then the USA will still be "a" leading nation, if not "the" leading nation. It will not matter to the USA if the leading nation in the 22nd Century is China, but a China with the USA's political and economic freedoms.
 
When I say America is done and dusted, I'm saying 1776 to 2008. It's over with. It's done with done. From Mexico to Canada, there will be only pieces. How many states are bankrupt already? They can't afford to turn on the lights or fix the roads. They can't afford to teach the children. There's nothing there anymore. It's an empty shell.

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As a native English speaker, I greatly admire those, like yourself, who participate in this forum in English, a second language for them. Please don't be bothered by people who put you down because of grammar or small word usage errors. Your English is perfectly understandable and that is all that matters here. On the other hand, I completely disagree with your opinions. The USA is not and has never been an empire, evil or otherwise. It is a leading nation because of its political and economic system. I believe that by the time of the 22nd Century all nations will have moved to a common, successful political/economic system. I believe that that ultimate convergence will look more like the USA's present system than China's present system. If I am right, then the USA will still be "a" leading nation, if not "the" leading nation. It will not matter to the USA if the leading nation in the 22nd Century is China, but a China with the USA's political and economic freedoms.

I don't think so. The US is clearly a multiethnic empire on the mold of the Soviet Union. It follows many of the same steps as the Soviet Union did - affirmative action for minorities, geographic concentrations of minorities, using food as a weapon, using military force to attack sovereign nations which have not attacked the US, disproportionate military spending, propaganda directed towards the outside, brainwashing directed towards the inside.

If the US stops behaving like a thug within a few years it might get away with the type of slow fading away that Britain was blessed with. Otherwise it may well become the dis-United States and follow the footsteps of the Soviet Union.
 
As a native English speaker, I greatly admire those, like yourself, who participate in this forum in English, a second language for them. Please don't be bothered by people who put you down because of grammar or small word usage errors. Your English is perfectly understandable and that is all that matters here. On the other hand, I completely disagree with your opinions. The USA is not and has never been an empire, evil or otherwise. It is a leading nation because of its political and economic system. I believe that by the time of the 22nd Century all nations will have moved to a common, successful political/economic system. I believe that that ultimate convergence will look more like the USA's present system than China's present system. If I am right, then the USA will still be "a" leading nation, if not "the" leading nation. It will not matter to the USA if the leading nation in the 22nd Century is China, but a China with the USA's political and economic freedoms.

I love your arogance. It is not fair to compare China to America. India got independence in 1947 and China a few years later. Look at the literacy levels of the two at 1950. Look today china has near 100 literacy levels compared to India. The Indian model is and has been closer to the US. Western media never fail to mention Tianaman Square as a criticism of the chinese system so I thought I would mention it before you do and remind you of the inability of the Indian state to protect its minorities eg Gujrat in the early ninties. The western media are nothing but propaganda tools. Even some of ours have been bought by your country. The other "democracy" that US states that is similar to them isIsrael look at how many innocents they are killing.

And your capitalist system is a failure. You have had a systemic failure in 2007 it will not recover to be what it used to be. Your empire will fall even quicker than the British empire. You are a bankrupt nation system financially and morolly. World Governments are reducing their holdings of dollars. In the last 10 years world has reduced dollar holding from 70% to 60%. You will soon hit the tipping point within the next 10 years. Interesting your country went to war with Iraq because they refused to accept the dollar for their oil. Similar 18 months ago gadaffi refused and would only accept gold for Libyan oil. Iran you slag off and place under sanctions because they refuse to accet your dodgy iou's also known as the dollar.

I look forward to that day when people realise "the emperor has no clothes"
 
I don't think so. The US is clearly a multiethnic empire on the mold of the Soviet Union.

Not even close to being like the Soviet Union. The USSR was a governmental conglomerate composed of many pre-existing national and ethnic groups held together by shear military and police force. The multi-ethnicity of the USA is because of immigration, not subjugation. China is now, and has been in its history, more of an evil empire in the mold of the USSR than the USA is now or ever has been or ever will be.
 
Not even close to being like the Soviet Union. The USSR was a governmental conglomerate composed of many pre-existing national and ethnic groups held together by shear military and police force. The multi-ethnicity of the USA is because of immigration, not subjugation. China is now, and has been in its history, more of an evil empire in the mold of the USSR than the USA is now or ever has been or ever will be.

US is clearly not an evil empire based on the Soviet Union:

Theft of the entire US east coast from Indians
Conquest of Northwest Mexico and its peoples
The permanent theft of Northwest Mexico from the sovereign and independent nation, Republic of Mexico
Conquest of the sovereign nation of Hawaii and its peoples
Colonization of the Phillipines
Use of nuclear weapons on another nation, the only country in the world to do so
Suppression of Korean democracy at Jeju Island and Gwangju the way Soviet tanks rolled into Hungary
Gassing Vietnamese with Agent Orange, not even the Soviets did that
Massacring protesters at Kent State University
Invasion and occupation of the sovereign state of Iraq
Invasion and occupation of the sovereign state of Afghanistan, same as the Soviet Union
Disproportionate military spending, just like the Soviet Union

Yep, nothing like the Soviets. Gassing people is more Nazi Germany.
 
American people are educated and for the most part caring, hard-working and law-abiding people who are as much human as we are......it's not good to sensationalize things.

yes a lot of us do not agree with their foreign policy (even in EU and some NATO countries many are critical of the US and the West in general)....that does not mean we have to glorify or celebrate anything related to their suffering or to their downfalls or any of that.


i did find this to be a very interesting video, i saw it some months back


The parody of the video I saw it now .
 
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Not even close to being like the Soviet Union. The USSR was a governmental conglomerate composed of many pre-existing national and ethnic groups held together by shear military and police force. The multi-ethnicity of the USA is because of immigration, not subjugation. China is now, and has been in its history, more of an evil empire in the mold of the USSR than the USA is now or ever has been or ever will be.

USA is evil! Your nation comitted genocide against American Indians. You are the only nation who has exploded nukes on a civilian population. If you wanted to show your power to the Japs you could have exploded it elsewhere and they may have surrenderd. But no you had to kill. You are hypocrites in that you bomb libyans to safeguard their human rights yet you accept the excesses of the Saudies because they will play along with you that the dollar is not worthless. You are brainwashed by your media of whom Goebells would have been proud of. Your goverment does not even represent its people. It represents 1% or so white anglo saxon protestants and a few jews are. I look forward to the hispanics and blacks shifting the demographics along with the dollar being dumped as a reserve country and then we will see which country has the most starving in the world and how cool your empire is.
 

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