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Well, with all due respect to you and to Mr. Abid, I would venture to guess that the EGY military & Navy know what's best for them and what they can afford more so than all of us here combined. lol. That said, I try not to discount their thought process based on my own incomplete knowledge of the military's financial means. But we do know that they have billions of $ they've been using as collateral for many of these long-term purchase loans. I'm sure their finances are very well planned into the future with these large purchases.
The Mistrals are mainly for troop movement AFTER and once a beachhead is completely secured from enemy threats. A carrier and its fleet will secure that beachhead in hours. We've seen how vulnerable even fully equipped attack helicopters are in the Ukraine war. They've been dropping like flies by determined Ukrainians with average MANPADs & SAMS. Mistrals and their helos are not designed to actually participate in heavy battles. They're designed mission is mostly, if not always, to come in after the fact and deploy troops & armor with attack helo escort/support.
@The SC , speaking of the Ukraine war, did you see that Russian Mi-24 Hind flattened out on the ground with the President-S System still almost fully intact and attached to the its winglets? That really discouraged me seeing that. Now I'm thinking it doesn't really work as advertised and I wonder how many helos the EAF equipped with that system?
A carrier that can launch up to 24 Rafales and 4 E-2C Hawkeyes -- as well as a few helicopters -- can rain terror and bring complete and utter overwhelming firepower to a potential, distant enemy in short time. Not to mention the deterrent factor. Frigates and corvettes can only do so much. You come rolling in blue water with a carrier and 24 Rafales loaded with SCALPs and HAMMERS and MICA missiles say goodbye to the enemy. They will need to create a fleet to add protection.
The Charles DE Gaul cost $3.7 billion and that's a nuclear-powered AC plus 30-40 Rafales. These ones are electric and seem to be around $2.8 - $3 billion, I believe. With 1720 personnel/crew to operate it fully and 24 Rafale Ms. Say another $3 billion for the aircraft and amo & deck equipment and it's just around $6 billion. They're largest contract to date was the first 2 Mistrals, 24 Rafales and 1 FREMM frigate for just under $6 billion. That's not including any potential discounts for being the first-time buyer of that AC, just like when they bought the first batch of Rafales at a super discount rate. I don't see a problem with it and if anything, it increased the EN's power structure while adding tremendous deterrent factors.
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Yknow the dream set to be the region's energy hub with the biggest economy and highest standard of living requires an army that can deter potential threats in the med and horn of africa and the arabian sea.
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Your weak military powers ( Egypt-Greece-France ) can not enter Turkish EEZ
stop dreaming and start working with Turkiye as like İsrael and Germany did it
even France can not protect its own Aircraft Carrier in the Eastern Mediterranean ( if enter Turkish EEZ )
Turkiye has great defense industry to produce enough missiles to turn all enemy naval forces into crap of metal in the Eastern Mediterranean
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Egypt is investing in human capital, see our parallel thread on Egypt’s projects both domestically and abroad, AFAIK under the Middle East section.
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Ebn el kalb dah ma7adesh wagehlo kalam
Your contributions are so pointless to this thread that they have no role but use up storage on servers and consume some of my internet connection, basically.
1) @Gomig-21 did not specifically mention Turkey, hence the unjustified context of your reply.
2) Any Naval ship can enter other countries’ EEZ, the EEZ only highlights the areas whom’s resources belong to the country in question, hence the content of your reply isn’t correct from where I, and laws, view it.
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1 ) what about joint patrolling the Mediterranean between France, Greece and Egypt ?
against Martians ? of course against Turkiye
2 ) I just said nobody can enter Turkish EEZ for drilling
Turkish Navy kicked French,İtalian,Greek,İsraeli Ships out of Turkish EEZ
Egypt-Greece buys old technologies while Turkiye develops nex gen - future technologies
so your military powers ( France-Egypt-Greece ) can not force Turkiye to give up from its legal rights in the Eastern Mediterranean ( not even close )
USA-İsrael cancelled Eastmed project and they started working with Turkiye for energy sector in the Eastern Mediterranean
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Translation : Promotions of TÜBİTAK SAGE, ASELSAN, ROKETSAN, TUSAŞ and HAVELSAN companies were held at the Defense Industry and Technology Training Center with the participation of personnel from friendly and allied countries (USA, Azerbaijan, Canada, TRNC, Egypt, Mongolia). #MSB
Big changes in the Region. Imagine in the official twitter account of the MoD of Turkey (not sure) describe Egypt as friendly/allied country. Plus to send a military delegation in Ankara. We are normalizing again with Turkey.
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Where does it say “for drilling”?
Apparently you aren’t here to highlight some wishful thoughts vis-a-vis East Med “naval battles” but rather pushing for a Turkish geopolitical victory in the east med, that’s a whole new point you’re offering on the Egyptian Armed Forces thread. I’ll shatter it through the following:
Turkey did not make use of any resources outside the EEZ the rest of the med attributes to Turkey - also the one Turkey’s claims surpass.
Egypt has been awarded contracts for projects within Tripoli, yep, the same city you helped defend against the LNA. Now you don’t get to lead the list of countries to benefit economically from post Civil War Libya - Egypt does, despite Turkey putting more effort in the war than Egypt.
Now, after you brought a relatively irrelevant point to the thread, as well as put words into the mouth of another member here, I highly suggest you save the pointless efforts in writing your replies as well as spare our common sense. Your thoughts are of low IQ and do not meet the unofficial minimum requirements me and others in this thread recognize.
Your words are still laughable and ridiculous about Turkey and its illusory power, which is not on the ground Turkey in the Mediterranean did not get a single DROP of gas and does not recognize the maritime law, so it will not be able to extract gas or oil on the ground. Gas is already being extracted and produced, and Egypt has exported 7 shipments of liquefied gas to Turkey, humiliation and oppression and showing Egypt’s control over the Mediterranean gas What is laughable is the gas that Egypt sells to Turkey. It is Greek and Cypriot gas, not Egyptian gas. What is the value of the Turkish EZZ, which no one recognizes and no one cares about what Turkey says? Its fictitious economic limits So who imposes the conditions of the strongest, do you understand this as a Turk? Whoever imposes his will on Turkey, who produces gas, Egypt and Greece, who exports gas, Egypt and Greece, the Turks talk many empty threats, they do not have EZZ, and no country in the world has recognized Turkey's ambitions, even the agreement with Libya, no one recognizes it Who lost gas in the Mediterranean Turkey Who submitted to Egypt in Libya Turkey Who was punished from the Arab countries Turkey Who is begging to restore relations with Egypt and the Gulf, investments and trade, Turkey, then who is stronger?
Egypt is the one who controls the Mediterranean gas, and it is the one who sells gas to Turkey, and the Turks accepted that
Turkish military power
About any superiority or strength, do not speak as naive and ignorant
Turkey The Turkish Air Force is a mixture of Phantom fighters, which do not find spare parts, and F-16s, which do not even have an AESA radar.
Turkey does not have weapons like Egypt, the next generation weapons
Egypt owns RAFALE fighters, and Turkey does not own its Sukhoi-35 model, and you only own the antique Phantom. The Americans refused to give Turkey new F-15 & F-16 planes, while the Americans are offering Egypt F-15EX planes, and Egypt is not interested in the American offer at all. Turkey is offering Egypt 48 F-planes 16V and Egypt does not care about this offer
The Turkish game is drones
Egypt has a much larger number of drones than Turkey
We are talking about what is available in the service, not Turkish dreams and future plans
WE have
WING LOONG 1 10
WING LOONG 1-D 32
WING LOONG 2 76
CH-4 10
CH-5 18
UNITED-40 10+ and locally manufactured ++
TYBA-30++ locally
Yastreb 48+
Busel MB 24+
ASN-209 + NUT 72 +
CH-91 24
AR-500C++
SCRAB 324 56+
S-100 CAMCOPTER 24+
Other than negotiations on
Manufacture of CH-5A/C
Under actual contract aircraft
WJ-700
GJ-11/CH-6/CH-7
Egypt is expanding in the manufacture of UAV / UCAV with China, the Emirates, Belarus and South Korea at the same time because Egypt aims to be the largest operator of unmanned systems in the Middle East and to compensate for the losses of the clashes. The rate of losses is 10 drones per day, and Egypt considers that it possesses thousands of Loitering Munitions
Locally manufactured in cooperation with Poland, China and South Korea
2000 Egyptian ballistic missiles According to Israeli studies
There is no comparison with Egypt's heavy attack helicopter
43+ AH-64D
50 KA-52
And not a light aircraft like the T-129, which was shot down by a Kurdish SAM-7 in a scandal for Turkey at the time.
Turkish dreams of the T-929 are not in the balance of power. Ukrainian engines are no longer available in the first place, and even if Turkey gets these antique engines, it will be laughable because they are more backward than even the Russian VK-2500P3 engines.
Egypt already has air defense systems that are light years larger than Turkey, even with Turkish local manufacturing
Russian and Chinese long-range systems
Western, Russian, Chinese and American short-range systems
We are talking about 150 medium and long-range missile batteries, 200 short-range batteries, 1,000 AAM guns, and laser artillery programs are in the process of maturation with more than one country.
Anti-drone systems that Egypt is expanding greatly to adapt a large wall of air propulsion
The Turks have only 4 BATTRIES S-400 batteries in their stockpiles, and the Russians only provided missiles with a range of 250 km only, not the Turkish propaganda
While 8 Egyptian planes ANTY-2500 missiles, the actual range in Egypt is 350 km as a simple example of the Egyptian qualitative superiority
5 other HQ-18 batteries for SA-2 systems replacement AS FIRST PHASE FOR REPLACEMENT
Even the Turkish propaganda that Egypt wants to transfer the technology of producing missile fuel and guidance systems is simply Egypt is looking for the cheapest and put the Germans under pressure by showing a masked alternative.
Are 4 hisar batteries parallel to 23 IRIS-T SLM/SLX batteries
We are developing our capacity much faster and stronger than the Turks
The Egyptian Navy has a much higher rate of ship seizure than Turkey and has exceeded the Turks, which is Turkey's recognition. I don't know if you live on the planet of the apes or what
Simply 4 GOWIND 2500
4 MEKO A200GP
4 FREMM BERGAMINE
1 FREEM AQUTINE
For 4 MILGEM Corvettes
Turkey's plans and Turkish dreams
Turkish military industry suffers from engine ban
The failed ALTAY tank project since 2008, we are in 2022, and the dreams of the Turks have not entered service, the start of manufacturing with Korean engines in 2025
PROJECT TFX No engine No technology transfer Real poor depletion of the Turkish treasury Ground F-4 TERMINTOR 2000 Turkey is trying to beg Israel to get spare parts for it
235 old F-16 planes, Turkey begging to develop 80 American AESA radar planes and buy 40 F-16V planes to confront the Greek F-35 & RAFALE. To America to get the APG-83 as long as Turkey has its own village to produce
The Turks are up to the production of the ATMACA missile, Greece has obtained 24 MdCN missiles for its submarines, and Egypt for the French FREEM frigate.
Everyone has surpassed Turkey with its dreams, and you are still talking about the Turkish military industry, which produces equipment of the highest level and quality and does not have a strategic impact.
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Alright you didnt have to embarras him that much save your energy great post
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But the problem is that he forgot that we don't have AIM-120 on our fleet but they have on their fleet. But our MIG-29 and Rafale can do the job against their fleet.
But he had to save his energy
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The oldest version of the Amraam with a max range of 80-90km? No thank you
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