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I know that the question sounds so stupid or naive, but... Is there any way the old fighters like MIG 21 and Mirage 5 can still be operational and useful, or it will be a complete waste of time and efforts and money ???

Can't these 1970's fighters/interceptors be completely upgraded and fitted with modern systems and missiles/bombs ???
Actually it will save money in very particular conditions and circumstances like when facing some groups like DAESH in Sinai or Houthis in Yemen, since these groups do not have air forces.. or like in the case of achieving total air superiority and air supremacy.. As for upgrading them, I think there is a very low chance for finding modern technologies that can be compatible with these quite old technologies, it will be like trying to upgrade a DOS operating system to widows 10..But they are still useful to unleash some hell fire on unprotected troops from the air..Even better than most actual armed drones..but this won't last for long, The Chinese CH-5 armed drone can carry as much ammunition if not more..
 
S-300VM "Antey-2500" in desert camouflage in the port of Ust-Luga in September. (2017)!?
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Congratulations to the people and the state of Egypt for this great victory of October the 6th 1973

God save Egypt and all the lands of the Arabs and Muslims from all evil..

When the majority of Arab states were not only newly emerging countries that had not yet established themselves,
During the occupation of Palestine in 1948.. In the 1956 aggression, in 1967 and in 1973 Egypt beared the heaviest weight of the Zionist aggression and the West..

6th of October 1973 was a great day in the history of the Arabs, made by the great Egyptian army..

In 6 Hours the Barlev Wall fell.. it took the Zionists 6 years to build it..

The biggest artillery fire since World War II, and the largest artillery fire in the history of the Middle East so far..
The longest air battle in world history, 45 minutes above Mansoura in an epic and rare air battle, ending in a legendary Egyptian victory.. humiliated the Zionist Air Force, which had fighter jets one generation more advanced than the Egyptians..Third Generation VS Fourth Generation = Victory for the Third Generation..

Many people do not know, that the Zionists searched for oil and extracted a few thousand barrels, and established a settlement in which close to 6000 Zionist terrorists wanted to settle in Sinai..

The Syrians also achieved the destruction of the Alon wall in the Golan during only one hour..
But the US rearmed 3 Zionist brigades destroyed by the Syrians in the Golan..They compensated for the entire Zionist losses in a short time on the Golan..Unlike the Syrians who had little compensation.. The Zionists regained the Golan Heights by 6 teams, 3 reserve + 3 rearmed..

The best that Arabs gave birth to in modern times to the world's military art
"The original image from the Hell Chamber"

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In 6 Hours the Barlev Wall fell.. it took the Zionists 6 years to build it..

Nothing like a quick breach of a retaining wall that was more to intimidate than to be any effective barrier, since it was compromised by Egyptian forces in a few hours. You can get an idea of the magnitude of that thing and what one of the many breaches by the Egyptian forces looked like in this photo.

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There was obviously the psychological impact of that thing, right? It wasn't just a military barrier, it served 2 other purposes in that it was to intimidate and discourage as some daunting task that couldn't be breached, but to also pretend and show the world that we were the aggressors and that we needed to be kept out of our own land and that they were just trying to protect themselves. Their cunning ways and tactics were bought by the masses, not by Egyptians. This was evident by the support they got. The condemnation was nothing but political.

And of course, the psychological effect can be played by the other side as well.

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The longest air battle in world history, 45 minutes above Mansoura in an epic and rare air battle

And the Zionists still deny that battle till today, because none of the Jewish/Israeli authors chose to mention it in any of the books they wrote because after 1967, how could Egyptian pilots -- mostly in MiG-21's -- take out 17 of their F-4 Phantoms and Skyhawks to 3 Egyptian losses in less than an hour of dogfighting? On top of after losing over 100+/- Israeli aircraft to Egyptian SA-2's earlier in the war. It was easy to take the Israeli claims as truthful because of course, no one trusted the Egyptian claims. :-)

Many people do not know, that the Zionists searched for oil and extracted a few thousand barrels, and established a settlement in which close to 6000 Zionist terrorists wanted to settle in Sinai..

Had there never been a war and the impact of the war that caused a major push back and partial withdrawal by the Israelis and gains by Egyptians, Sinai would've remained Israeli (just like the Golan) and it would've been called something like Levi Shikhut or some Yiddish name because it's undeniable that they wanted to keep that awesome, Egyptian land forever and turn it into part of Israel, using the excuse that we're the aggressors and they're just protecting their existence. Why else would they have established settlements LOL!? Although it would've been hard for them to keep it forever, had they been able to keep it long enough and settle in it with enough people, and without any military resistance, eventually they'd be diplomatically forced to concede but with a long enough elapsed time, AND especially with settlements, they would've asked exactly what Golda Meir was hinting at offering prior to the war and that is a return of a portion of it and not all, which of course, would've never been acceptable to us. Sadat realizing that, went to war as soon as he could. Then by offering peace, they didn't have that leverage to keep any land since they'd risk another war that could quite possibly have an even greater impact than the October war. Who would want that?
 
The Barlev line was more than a wall though, it was in reality what was hidden by that wall; fortified positions 6 stories deep in the ground, armed to the teeth all along the wall, all of them like small to medium fortified military bases interconnected between them and connected to the Usraeli HQ in Tel Aviv, defeating them and taking those positions was the real feat of the Egyptian armed forces.. before that, Egyptian Frogmen had to clog the Napalm tubes that represented a real danger to the crossing..

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MiG-29M/35 in Egypt.

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It's just a matter of time before seeing the new MIGs in EAF.
The news that circulated the web last year did mention that EAF was scheduled to receive the first MiGs in the first half of 2017. So, they could be already in service!
Regarding the weapon systems that come from Russia, China and other suppliers no ceremony is expected to take place unlike we have been doing with the systems that been received from USA and France! (i.e today with ENS AL FATEH F-971) ..
I posted this two weeks ago.
Apparently it took Egypt football team to win and qualify for next year's World Cup finals for this photo to be emerged! :-)
 
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The Barlev line was more than a wall though, it was in reality what was hidden by that wall; fortified positions 6 stories deep in the ground, armed to the teeth all along the wall, all of them like small to medium fortified military bases interconnected between them and connected to the Usraeli HQ in Tel Aviv, defeating them and taking those positions was the real feat of the Egyptian armed forces.. before that, Egyptian Frogmen had to clog the Napalm tubes that represented a real danger to the crossing..

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Nothing like a quick breach of a retaining wall that was more to intimidate than to be any effective barrier, since it was compromised by Egyptian forces in a few hours. You can get an idea of the magnitude of that thing and what one of the many breaches by the Egyptian forces looked like in this photo.

2011-634534999335592284-559.gif


There was obviously the psychological impact of that thing, right? It wasn't just a military barrier, it served 2 other purposes in that it was to intimidate and discourage as some daunting task that couldn't be breached, but to also pretend and show the world that we were the aggressors and that we needed to be kept out of our own land and that they were just trying to protect themselves. Their cunning ways and tactics were bought by the masses, not by Egyptians. This was evident by the support they got. The condemnation was nothing but political.

And of course, the psychological effect can be played by the other side as well.

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And the Zionists still deny that battle till today, because none of the Jewish/Israeli authors chose to mention it in any of the books they wrote because after 1967, how could Egyptian pilots -- mostly in MiG-21's -- take out 17 of their F-4 Phantoms and Skyhawks to 3 Egyptian losses in less than an hour of dogfighting? On top of after losing over 100+/- Israeli aircraft to Egyptian SA-2's earlier in the war. It was easy to take the Israeli claims as truthful because of course, no one trusted the Egyptian claims. :-)



Had there never been a war and the impact of the war that caused a major push back and partial withdrawal by the Israelis and gains by Egyptians, Sinai would've remained Israeli (just like the Golan) and it would've been called something like Levi Shikhut or some Yiddish name because it's undeniable that they wanted to keep that awesome, Egyptian land forever and turn it into part of Israel, using the excuse that we're the aggressors and they're just protecting their existence. Why else would they have established settlements LOL!? Although it would've been hard for them to keep it forever, had they been able to keep it long enough and settle in it with enough people, and without any military resistance, eventually they'd be diplomatically forced to concede but with a long enough elapsed time, AND especially with settlements, they would've asked exactly what Golda Meir was hinting at offering prior to the war and that is a return of a portion of it and not all, which of course, would've never been acceptable to us. Sadat realizing that, went to war as soon as he could. Then by offering peace, they didn't have that leverage to keep any land since they'd risk another war that could quite possibly have an even greater impact than the October war. Who would want that?
Since I don't have any power or will to reply to your claims, I will just post this, accept it, you lost every time you fought against us.
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Since I don't have any power or will to reply to your claims, I will just post this, accept it, you lost every time you fought against us.
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Why don't you show the flags of France, Britain and the US..and even then you were defeated.. read Quotes from your top leaders don't come pollute this thread with your pain...:lol::lol::lol::enjoy:
 

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