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DAWN.COM | Pakistan | ?Fighting for Kashmir?s liberation is Pakistan?s duty?

MUZAFFARABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari on Tuesday said all super powers should come forward to settle the Kashmir dispute.

Addressing a joint session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir Assembly and the Kashmir Council, President Zardari said India wanted to suppress the voice of the Kashmiri people through use of force.

President Zardari said fighting for Kashmir's liberation was Pakistan's responsibility.

Regional peace would not be possible without the Kashmir dispute’s resolution, he said.

The president told the session that a committee on Kashmir Affairs had also been constituted. He also announced a countrywide increase in number of seats for medical students from the region.

Meanwhile, President Azad Jammu and Kashmir Raja Farooq complained regarding the poor performance of the Earthquake Reconstruction and Rehabilitation Authority (ERRA). — DawnNews

This guy is Desperate to save his chair :disagree:
 
DAWN.COM | Pakistan | ?Fighting for Kashmir?s liberation is Pakistan?s duty?

MUZAFFARABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari on Tuesday said all super powers should come forward to settle the Kashmir dispute.

Addressing a joint session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir Assembly and the Kashmir Council, President Zardari said India wanted to suppress the voice of the Kashmiri people through use of force.

President Zardari said fighting for Kashmir's liberation was Pakistan's responsibility.

Regional peace would not be possible without the Kashmir dispute’s resolution, he said.

The president told the session that a committee on Kashmir Affairs had also been constituted. He also announced a countrywide increase in number of seats for medical students from the region.

Meanwhile, President Azad Jammu and Kashmir Raja Farooq complained regarding the poor performance of the Earthquake Reconstruction and Rehabilitation Authority (ERRA). — DawnNews

This guy is Desperate to save his chair :disagree:

Kindly someone let us know how "other super powers" can interfere in this issue when:

(!) They (other nations) have alredy denied doing so. :hang2:

(2) Pakistan stand on this issue is unclear. Sometimes it is a bilaterral isssue. Sometime a diffrent approach is adopted. And ofcourse, supporting liberation is another one.:D

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

President Musharraf's Visit to India 2005


Purely for domestic consumption I say!!
 
Kindly someone let us know how "other super powers" can interfere in this issue when:

(!) They (other nations) have alredy denied doing so. :hang2:

(2) Pakistan stand on this issue is unclear. Sometimes it is a bilaterral isssue. Sometime a diffrent approach is adopted. And ofcourse, supporting liberation is another one.:D

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

President Musharraf's Visit to India 2005


Purely for domestic consumption I say!!

Not going to happen....Its just going thru the motions on Mr Zardari's part.. I mean the so called liberation. The problem is that whichever party (in INdia or in Pakistan) even concedes an inch on Kashmir, will be thrown out of power for a very long time and hence no one will suggest that or even allow it to happen. Thats exactly why even LOC=IB will not work as both Pakistan and India express claim on the part of Kashmir governed by the other. The only hope is normalization of relations and increase in trust so that the LOC stops being a dangerous place. Post that no matter what you call it, people on both sides of it will be too busy living a good life to bother about the terminology

Just my two cents..
 
The problem is that whichever party (in INdia or in Pakistan) even concedes an inch on Kashmir, will be thrown out of power for a very long time and hence no one will suggest that or even allow it to happen.

I agree with this line
 
The problem is that whichever party (in INdia or in Pakistan) even concedes an inch on Kashmir, will be thrown out of power for a very long time and hence no one will suggest that or even allow it to happen.
Kashmir = Cyprus in South Asia.
 
Does anyone have a link to the exact transcript of this speech?
 
The problem is that whichever party (in INdia or in Pakistan) even concedes an inch on Kashmir, will be thrown out of power for a very long time and hence no one will suggest that or even allow it to happen.

Or it could be that the parties that solve the issue are voted back in.....theres plenty of examples on how the kashmir issue could be solved.
With the use of the media the populations would soon come round to accepting a compromise.
 
Kashmir = Cyprus in South Asia.

Kashmiris have a right to chose who they want to join given by UN RESOLUTION AND HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITEE and india is only violating it with the massive military present which is more then 700000 in kashmir.
Rapes,murders and kidnapping by barbarian occupiers are a reality for PRO PAKISTAN KASHMIRIS
and ALMOST ALL PARTIES WANT TO MERGE WITH PAKISTAN.
GREAT KASHMIRI LEADERS SPEECH = WE ARE PAKISTANIS AND PAKISTAN IS OUR ;;;;;;;;;;
LONG LIVE PAKISTN FREE KASHMIR SHAME ON OCCUPIERS


:pakistan:
 
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Kashmiris have a right to chose who they want to join given by UN RESOLUTION AND HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITEE and india is only violating it with the massive military present which is more then 700000 in kashmir.
Rapes,murders and kidnapping by barbarian occupiers are a reality for PRO PAKISTAN KASHMIRIS
and ALMOST ALL PARTIES WANT TO MERGE WITH PAKISTAN.
tPMeI-6cVV8[/media] - Kashmiri people rise against Indian aggression
a96SgjUsfoM[/media] - "Pakistan ka matlab kya : La ilaha illa Allah" say a million Kashmiris in India Occupied Kashmir
GREAT KASHMIRI LEADERS SPEECH = WE ARE PAKISTANIS AND PAKISTAN IS OUR ;;;;;;;;;;
LONG LIVE PAKISTN FREE KASHMIR SHAME ON OCCUPIERS

KNF1xNml9ZE[/media] - hum pakistani hai pakistan hamara hei :pakistan:

Can you stop ranting and go get a reality check...

http://www.timesnow.tv/Pak-paid-separatist-Bilal-Lone/articleshow/4334242.cms

Doesn,t this forum have any rules on font sizes ...
 
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i think zardari is again trying get public support

What do you expect from person of this caliber? I hope nothing! So turn the page and listen to somebody who knows what he is talking. Relax, there are better people who understand Kashmir conflict better than him.
 
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M J Akbar, Sunday January 03, 2010

When was the last time you read the front of a Christmas card? This seasonal benevolence begs an intriguing question: Which comes first? Peace on earth or goodwill towards men?

Any Indian visitor to Pakistan will vouch for the genuine goodwill he finds. We are an emotional people; cricket is the perfect pitch for hostility since all its crises can be sorted out over a sumptuous dinner afterwards. But all the warmth between Indians and Pakistanis has not translated into peace between India and Pakistan. The relationship began with war over Kashmir within six weeks of birth because the two nations are founded on antagonistic concepts of nationalism.

Pakistan is a child of the two-nation theory. This is not a matter of geography. Its premise is that Hindus and Muslims belong to separate nations. Jinnah reiterated a million times that living with Hindus was submission to Hindu tyranny and sneered at Maulana Azad when the latter insisted that a secular multi-faith state was not only possible, but desirable. This is the basis for every Pakistani’s conviction that the Kashmir valley is rightfully a part of Pakistan, and Indian rule in Srinagar is ruthless colonization.

India has accepted the fact of Pakistan. It supported Pakistan’s membership of the United Nations even when Afghanistan opposed it. But India’s ideology cannot accept that there should be two nations because there are two faiths. Its Constitution and six decades of democratic experience say so. India’s ideology makes Kashmir as inviolable a part of India as Pakistan’s ideology makes it a part of Pakistan. Pakistan would not want Hindu-majority Jammu even if anyone offered it, since Pakistan is a Muslims-only state. Its Constitution forbids non-Muslims from becoming president or prime minister.


Kashmiris have added a singular twist to this existential dilemma, with a three-nation theory. The progenitor of the concept of Kashmiri independence was not a Muslim: in 1947 Maharaja Hari Singh delayed accession to either state in the hope of acquiring a unique and separate status. Over time, and particularly after the marginalization of Kashmiri Pandits from the valley, independence has become a Kashmiri Muslim, rather than a Kashmiri, demand.

Where is the median point at which such conflicting aspirations meet or merge? The difficulty should be apparent to even the most optimistic goodwill-salesman. One of the three has to abandon a fiercely-held ideology, with attendant consequences.

Delhi seems to believe that the easiest negotiating space lies in the three-nation theory. It has set in motion, through the familiar ruse of committees, a virtual-nation option for Kashmir in the guise of autonomy. Islamabad would match Delhi’s rearrangement after a pre-arranged signal, and Kashmiris would be offered the substance of independence without the reality. Such a solution would be illusory without legal and Constitutional permanence. It would be vulnerable on disparate counts. Many Pakistanis would not see it as a solution, only as partial victory in the long haul to the full acquisition of Kashmir.

This is certainly the declared objective of terrorist networks and their allies in government, who would be tempted towards greater violence. The Lashkar-e-Taiba and its friends are unlikely to sign any peace-on-earth deal with India. There could also be a change of mood, or change of government, in Delhi. Nehru withdrew many of the commitments made in the Delhi Agreement with Sheikh Abdullah because they were incompatible with the federal structure and a potential threat to Indian unity. Fudge is inedible.

The idea of Pakistan is being battered each day on the streets by guns and suicide bombers. A common faith could not prevent a revolution in Bangladesh, a revolt in Baluchistan, or, last week, the massacre of Shias. It would be interesting to find out through a poll whether Shias today feel more secure in Lucknow or Karachi. Pakistan’s Muslims created a separate country because they could not live with Hindus and Sikhs; today they are discovering that they cannot live with one another. The evidence is in front of us; the inference is too inflammatory to be uttered.

The solution to Kashmir cannot lie in a failed theory. And Kashmiris surely appreciate that independence is not possible. Perhaps this subcontinent needs one last touch of surgery. The price of Partition in Punjab and Bengal was horrific, but it brought peace. Six decades later, West Bengal has the highest density of Muslims among all states in India, and the strength of secularism has persuaded Bihari Muslims to migrate to Punjab. Kashmir was divided along the ceasefire line because Pakistan, in 1947, chose war over talks. If Pakistan insists on an ideological claim over the valley, there will be no peace. If it can find space for pragmatism, Islamabad and Delhi can shake hands on a Happy New Year without needing to count their fingers afterwards.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmir-war/43347-path-peace-runs-through-kashmir.html#post610451
 
Pakistan is a child of the two-nation theory. This is not a matter of geography. Its premise is that Hindus and Muslims belong to separate nations. Jinnah reiterated a million times that living with Hindus was submission to Hindu tyranny and sneered at Maulana Azad when the latter insisted that a secular multi-faith state was not only possible, but desirable. This is the basis for every Pakistani’s conviction that the Kashmir valley is rightfully a part of Pakistan, and Indian rule in Srinagar is ruthless colonization.

India has accepted the fact of Pakistan. It supported Pakistan’s membership of the United Nations even when Afghanistan opposed it. But India’s ideology cannot accept that there should be two nations because there are two faiths. Its Constitution and six decades of democratic experience say so. India’s ideology makes Kashmir as inviolable a part of India as Pakistan’s ideology makes it a part of Pakistan

and therein lies the crux of the matter. This dispute is not about human rights violation or the "wishes of the Kashmiri people".
 

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