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Gandhi's Killer's Final Address To The Court

Hit a nerve ? :rofl: Stop making statements to start a unnecessary flame war :flame:

Troll thread...nothing to do with India's defense

Well the Indians are most certainly DEFENSive here! So the article is at the right place. If it flames your nostrils! That's your problem not mine!

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Well.. a good article..!!! Nice to hear what godse had to say..!!! Sounds like an islamic terrorist of our times.. to save hindus he killed gandhi.. to save muslims.. terrorists killing humanity...what a joke..!!!! ;))

Point Well Absorbed! You seem to be an Indian with a purposeful head on his shoulders!:tup::agree:
 
What this thread has to do with India's Defence, is it a military forum of some sort or what?:no::no::no::no:

Mod you cant't do this all the times. If a Indian member posted something about China even in economic development section Mr aquil (Mod) will act @ lightning speed and close it:hitwall:

You always allows every crap, rant and provocative things against India. Plz close this thread it does not have anything relatd to India's Defense. :pakistan:

My friend, if you were expecting a completely neutral response when you joined this forum then I am sorry to say that you were mistaken.

Just put yourself in there shoes and tell me won't you be a little partial to your own countrymen. Anyways threads like these are automatically lost if Indians don't respond to them. I can speak for myself that its very difficult to remain neutral when it comes to nationality.

You know the best part of Internet Propaganda is that unless the other side responds its useless since it would never be able to garner enough support or credibility. Lets not respond to this flamebait post and let the Pakistani posters have a field day in this thread for a while.

They wont be able to keep this thread alive for more than 3 days if no indian poster responds.

Regards
 
Thanks. Coming from an Hindu Indian, I take that as a compliment! :azn:

By linking Godse who killed teh father of our nation (who was tried and sentenced to death by an Indian court btw) to being the true colors of India, you have been doing nothing but flaming and trolling. This is from a Muslim Indian, so take it as another "compliment".

Just like no sane muslim, even a religious muslim would tolerate and justify AQ type violence (except maybe the lunatic fringe), no sane or religious Hindu would try to justify and concur with Godse. He will always be remeber as the Mahatma's killer not just in India but around the world.
 
Well, I see this article bit misleading... Ofcourse Godse was a member of Hindu Mahasabha and he killed Mahatma.. but the main reasons were different. It was not only that Mahatma was Pro Muslim and Godse was Pro Hindu hence he shot Mahatma. The main reason was post partition the calculation of assets is done from hindus left pakistan and muslims left india and tribunal observed 750 million was about to be paid to pakistan on which 200 million were paid by Delhi and rest withheld as pakistan's army + tribals attacked kashmir and in view of armed conflict the money can not be released to pakistan. Mahatma saw it in view of good relation of Indo-Pak the money should be released. He as usual fast and pressurised govt to release money and this really made Patel and Hindu organisations angry as partition already created hatred between 2 communities and this kashmir war and money release increased an anger against him. Madan Lal Phawa also tried to kill Mahatma by exploding a bomb but it failed. After few days Godse succeeded.
 
Nathuram Godse did what he felt was to be done,most of us have respect for that,the world knows that Gandhi is revered in India which is not true,majority of Indians specially Punjabis and Bengalis are dead against the so called Mahatma.All that is well but I don't really understand why is this post in this section or what the poster really wanted to achieve by comparing the two(Godse's deed & Gen.Kapoor)still it seems that he is in the notion of an incedible self satisfaction though we are trying to find out how thin the intellectual edifice the poster actually has.
 
By linking Godse who killed teh father of our nation (who was tried and sentenced to death by an Indian court btw) to being the true colors of India, you have been doing nothing but flaming and trolling. This is from a Muslim Indian, so take it as another "compliment".

Just like no sane muslim, even a religious muslim would tolerate and justify AQ type violence (except maybe the lunatic fringe), no sane or religious Hindu would try to justify and concur with Godse. He will always be remeber as the Mahatma's killer not just in India but around the world.

Well I do not give a r@t's rear end if you are a 'Muslim from India' that's a trauma you live with! You are still an Indian or at least a 'scared' wannabe! The article states an opinion and it stays here whether you like it or not. Like I said if it causes swine flu panic amongst you 'Muslims from India' they that is your problem sweet-heart!
 
Well I do not give a r@t's rear end if you are a 'Muslim from India' that's a trauma you live with! You are still an Indian or at least a 'scared' wannabe! The article states an opinion and it stays here whether you like it or not. Like I said if it causes swine flu panic amongst you 'Muslims from India' they that is your problem sweet-heart!

Man you really do have an inferiority complex. Take a chill pill and stop attacking our Muslim nationals. They are on a much better level than you are. So chillax
 
Man you really do have an inferiority complex. Take a chill pill and stop attacking our Muslim nationals. They are on a much better level than you are. So chillax

Thanks for coming to the rescue SuperHINDUman! But I think the 'Muslim from India' may have a few neurons left to defend himself! And yeah! we know for sure what 'level' are Indian Muslims at in Hindu India! So please try this ping-pong with them and not with us.
 
FU#K HELL. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY OTHER FORUMS WHERE RELIGION PRESENTED AS A SUBJECT TO TALK.
 
Thanks for coming to the rescue SuperHINDUman! But I think the 'Muslim from India' may have a few neurons left to defend himself! And yeah! we know for sure what 'level' are Indian Muslims at in Hindu India! So please try this ping-pong with them and not with us.

Man you will make a great member of the TTP if you arent one already. They are also great at harassing Hindus and other minorities in your country and display the same hatred of Hindus as you do. So Mr PureMUSLIMman :D don't start a flame troll here or else you will get your rear whipped :wave:
 
Nathuram Godse did what he felt was to be done,most of us have respect for that,the world knows that Gandhi is revered in India which is not true,majority of Indians specially Punjabis and Bengalis are dead against the so called Mahatma.All that is well but I don't really understand why is this post in this section or what the poster really wanted to achieve by comparing the two(Godse's deed & Gen.Kapoor)still it seems that he is in the notion of an incedible self satisfaction though we are trying to find out how thin the intellectual edifice the poster actually has.

no one have to respect that bastard for killing Mahatma Gandhi
don't speak for majority of Indians,every Indian have respect for Gandhi Ji.
BTW if someone feel like killing you just because he don't like what you do and he kills you would that be justified?
and for the likes of you who disrespect Mahatma Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
can leave India ASAP! :chilli:
:sniper: Nathuram Godse would be remembered only as a person who killed Gandhi Ji...................................
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though i agree with the rest of the post :chilli:
 
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this speech by godse(thanks to XYON...for posting the text even though it would have been better if it was posted with a diffrent title that did not provoke flame)...which i have read for the first time...has indeed made me think about the policies of non violence and nation building...this has led me to the following conclusions. i don't know if many would agree with my views but i am stating them as follows .(feelfree to disagree)

it is my belief that both the MAHATMA and GODSE had played their parts well that has ensured the building up INDIA......yes GODSE though may have been cured for what he did has indeed did the nation a service

non violence - is a primary requsite for nation building . it is essential the people of the nation just dont fight with each other for everything .....this as such was ensured in INDIA by the non violent policies of GANDHI....this is what that has kept INDIA united and nothing else.This is more important than the "independence" that he has won for us because it is this principle ensured the success of INDIA as a nation (because a failure would have meant that the independence that was achieved was of no purpose ).

going on to GODSE, his view was of any patriotic INDIAN , a different one that GANDHI but not any less patriotic.....given GANDHI's nature he indeed would have disbanded the army which would have again been detrimental to INDIA .This is because a nation without security would mean that anyone could attack and capture largge parts of INDIA....which would have meant that INDIA would not have been a single nation. Though it might have been just GODSE's conclusions that GANDHI may have led INDIA into this mess---- it still is a possibilty he ensured that INDIA did nt go in that path.........

although what has become of GODSE may appear in bad light , he still had commited murder.

Besides if GODSE was set free it would have been a death blow for the non-violence (th ideals that was essential for the nation's existence ).

and it was essential to put GODSE to death for the nation's own good ,infact he knew that he would meet such end as you can see from his speech. he has been humiliated as a terrorist but that again was in the nation's best interest of upholding the law.

and it would have been a shame if a leader like GANDHI had died of old age....it was his violent death that had indeed been responsible for the spirit of non violence to spread throughout the world....an inspiration for the likes of MARTIN LUTHER KING,AUNG SAN SU KI, NELSON MANDELA AND THE OTHERS.

it is my conclusion that both GANDHI AND GODSE were both essential for INDIA'S success as a nation.GANDHI for his NON VIOLENCE and GODSE for limiting it in the nation's interest.
 
Nathuram stood poised before the mike to read from his written statement.

The silence which had hollowed the Court-room was accentuated by the relay of echoes from the walls with hisclear and resonant words-



MAY IT PLEASE YOUR HONOUR -

Answer to the Charge sheetI, Nathuram Vinayak Godse, the first accused above named respectfully beg to state as under :


1. Before I make my submission as regards the various charges I respectfully submit that thecharges as framed are not according to law, in as much as there is a misjoinder of charges andthere ought to have been two separate trials to the incident of the 20th of January 1948 andthe other relating to the incident of the 30the of January 1948. The two having been mixed uptogether the whole trial is vitiated.


2. Without prejudice to my above submission I make my submission in respect of the variouscharges as framed as stated hereafter.


3. In the charge-sheet preferred against the accused, a number of counts has been stated andeach of the accused individually and jointly with others has been charged with the commissionof the various offences punishable under the Indian Penal .Code and other statutes.


4. It appears from the charge sheet that the prosecution takes the events that have happenedon 20th January 1948 and thereafter on 30th January 1948 as one and the same or a chain of events in continuation of one and the same object culminating in the murder of Gandhiji. Itherefore, wish to make it clear at the outset that the events up to 20th January 1948 are quiteindependent and they have no connection whatsoever with what happened thereafter and on30th January 1948.


5. The first and the foremost amongst the said ,charges is the charge of conspiracy amongst theaccused to murder Gandhiji. I shall therefore first ,deal with the same. I say that there was no,conspiracy of any kind whatsoever amongst the ,accused to commit any of the offencesmentioned in the charge-sheet. I may also state here that I have not abetted any of the otheraccused in the ,commission of the alleged offences.


6. I say that the evidence led by the Prosecution in this regard does not establish and prove thatthere was any conspiracy whatsoever. The only witness who deposes about the allegedconspiracy is Digambar R. Badge (Prosecution Witness 57). He is a totally unreliable witness aswill be shown to Your. Honour by my counsel when he will explain the evidence in the case anddeal with the evidence of this witness,


7. As regards the charge of collecting and transporting arms and ammunition without licence,and abetment thereof on 20th January 1948, I say that I deny the said charge and say that Ineither carried or transported gun-cotton slabs, hand-grenades, detonators, wicks, pistols, orrevolvers and cartridges etc. as alleged, nor did I have under my control any of such armsand/or ammunition, nor did 'I abet and aid any of the accused to do so either before or on orabout the 20th January 1948 or any other date. I deny therefore that I contravened any of theprovisions of the Indian Arms Act or the Indian Explosives Substances Act and that I committedany offence punishable under the said Acts.


8. The main evidence in regard to this charge is 'the evidence of Digambar R. Badge (P.W. 57),but as stated in paragraph 6 above, he is a totally unreliable witness. This witness Badge (P.W.57) is known to me but he hardly used to come to me nor have I ever visited his place of residence since several years past. His statement that he came to the Hindu Rashtra Office on10th January 1948, being brought there by Apte ... the accused No. 2 ... is totally false and Ideny that the said Badge saw me at the Hindu Rashtra Office or any other place on that day, orthat in my presence Apte and he had any talk amongst themselves about gun-cotton slabs,hand grenades, etc. and about the delivery thereof at Bombay as falsely alleged by the saidBadge. His statement that Apte asked me to come out of the room and that Apte told me thatBadge was prepared to hand over the hand grenades etc. and that one work was over is totallyfalse. This is a story got up by Badge to implicate me and others into the alleged cospiracy. Ifurther say that I neither saw nor met Badge on 14th January 1948 at Dadar either alone or inthe company of Apte. I did not even know that Badge had come to Bombay on that day.


9. I further deny that I had in my Possession c, i under my control, while at Delhi or abetted anyone to have and Possess on 20th January 1948, any arms or ammunition as stated in thecharge-sheet under the heading "Secondly" paragraphs B (1) and (2). Here also the evidence tosupport this charge is of Badge alone and I say that he has given false evidence to save his ownskin; for on that condition alone he could secure the pardon promised and granted to him.


10. As regards the charge under the heading "Thirdly", I say that I deny the said charge and theabetment thereof as stated in several paragraphs A (1) and (2), and B (1) and (2).


11. As regards the charge under the heading "Fourthly" paragraph 2, I deny that I abettedMadanlal K Pahwa either myself alone or along with others to explode a gun-cotton slab on20th January 1948 at Birla House, I say that there is no evidence to substantiate this charge andwhatever little evidence there may be, can hardly connect me with the explosion of the gun-cotton slab.


12. As regards the charge of abetment in the "attempt to commit the murder of MahatmaGandhi" under the said heading "Fifthly" in the charge sheet, I deny the said charge and say Ihad no connection either directly or indirectly with Madanlal K. Pahwa or any other personwhatsoever. I say there is no evidence whatsoever to support this charge.


13. As regards the charge under the heading "Sixthly" in the charge-sheet as to paragraphs (A)(1) and (2) thereof, I say that I have not imported or brought unlicensed pistol and ammunitionwith the assistance of Narayan D. Apte. I also deny that Dr. Dattatraya S. Parchure and NarayanD. Apte procured the said pistol, or any one of them individually or jointly; abetted me orthemselves each other in such procuration of the said pistol and the ammunition. I further saythat the evidence produced by Prosecution in that behalf is not reliable. Without prejudice tothe above, I further say that even if the acts mentioned in these paragraphs A (1) and (2) mayhave been committed, this Honourable Court has no jurisdiction to take any notice of them. Ifurther say that so far as I am concerned the charge, if any, would merge under the charge inparagraph B (1) under this head.


14. As regards the charge under paragraph B (1) and (2) I admit that I had in my possessionautomatic pistol No. 606824 and cartridges. But I say that neither Narayan D. Apte nor VishnuR. Karkare had anything to do with the pistol in my possession.


15.But before I pass to the charge under the heading "Seventhly", it will not be out of place toexplain here how I happened to come to Delhi, and why I came to Delhi. I had never made asecret about the fact that I supported the ideology or the school which was opposed to that of Gandhiji. I firmly believed that the teachings of absolute 'Ahimsa' as advocated by Gandhijiwould ultimately result in the emasculation. of the Hindu Community and thus make thecommunity incapable of resisting the aggression or inroads of other communities especially theMuslims. To counteract this evil I resolved to enter public life and formed a group of personswho held like views. In this Apte and myself took a leading part and as a part of propagandastarted a daily newspaper 'Agrani'. I might mention here that it was not so much the GandhianAhimsa' teachings that were opposed to by me and my group, but Gandhiji while advocating hisviews always showed or evinced a bias for Muslims, prejudicial and detrimental to the HinduCommunity and its interests. I have fully described my Point of view hereafter in detail andhave quoted numerous instances which unmistakably establish how Gandhiji becameresponsible for a number of calamities which the Hindu Community had to suffer and undergo.


16. In my papers 'Agrani' and 'Hindu Rashtra', I always strongly criticised Gandhiji's views andhis methods such as fast for achieving his object, and after Gandhiji started holding prayermeetings, we Apte and myself- decided to stage peaceful demonstrations showing opposition.We had made such demonstrations at Panchagani, Poona, Bombay and Delhi. There was a widegulf between the two ideologies and it became wider and wider as concessions afterconcessions were being made to the Muslims, either at the suggestion or connivance of Gandhiji and the Congress which was guided by Gandhiji, culminating in the partition of theCountry on 15th of August 1947. I have dealt with this point in detail hereafter. On 13th of January 1948. I learnt that Gandhiji had decided to go on fast unto death. The reason given forsuch fast was that he wanted an assurance of Hindu-Muslim unity in Indian Dominion. But 1and many others could easily see that the real motive behind the fast was nit merely the so-called Hindu-Muslim Unity, but to compel the Dominion Government to pay the sum of Rs. 55crores to Pakistan, the payment of which was emphatically refused by the Government. As ananswer to this, Apte suggested the same old method to stage a strong but peaceful demonstration at the prayer meetings of Gandhiji. I consented to this half-heartedly, because Icould easily see its futility. However, I agreed to join him as no alternative plan was as yet fixedin my mind. It was for this reason that N.D. Apte and myself went to Bombay on the 14th of January, 1948.


17. On 15th of January, 1948 we-Apte and myself-happened to go to the Hindu Sabha Office atDadar in the morning. I happened to see Badge there. On seeing N.D. Apte and myself, Badgetalked to N.D. Apte and asked him the reason of his coming to Bombay. Apte told him thereason. Badge thereupon of his own accord offered to come. to Delhi and join in thedemonstration, if we had no objection to his coming there. We wanted men to back us and toshout slogans and we therefore accepted his offer. We told him as to when we were starting.Badge thereupon told Apte that he had to give some stuff to Pravinchandra Sethia, that hewould do so in a day or two and see us on the 17th January, 1948.


18. After we met Badge on the 15th of January, 1948 in the Hindu Sabha Office at Dadar, I sawBadge on the 17th of January, 1948 in the morning.


19. The statements made by Badge about our going to Dixitji Maharaj along with him andseeing Dixitji Maharaj, about Apte having told Badge that Savarkar had entrusted Apte andmyself the task of finishing Gandhiji, Pandit Jawaharlal and Suhrawardy is a pure concoctionand product of Badge's brain. Neither Apte nor I have said anything like this to Badge or anyother person. I deny categorically what the Prosecution has so falsely maintained that I wasguided in my action by Veer Savarkar and that, but for his complicity, I could never have actedin the way I have done. I take. the strongest exception to, this untrue and unjust charge and Ifurther regard it as an insult to my intelligence and judgement. The Prosecution's attempt tomake out that I was a mere tool in someone else's hands is an aspersion which is far from thetruth. Indeed I it is a perversion of it.


20. Badge's statements to the effect that I also wanted to go to Poona to meet my brotherGopal Godse who had undertaken to make arrangements for procuring a revolver and to bringhim down to Bombay for accompanying us to Delhi, is also untrue. I had no talk with Badgewhen I met him on the 15th January 1948 except what is stated in paragraph 17 above. Furtherthe statement of Badge that he met me on 16th January 1948 at Poona is also false. The allegedreport of my conversation with him at Poona as deposed to by Badge. in his evidence is also f also and untrue. I was not in Poona on the 1 6th January 1948. It will be clear from this that it isnot true 'that I gave him any pistol on that day for being exchanged for a big revolver.


21. I have already stated that we-Apte and myself-had planned to stage a strong but peacefuldemonstration at Gandhiji's prayer-meeting at the earliest possible opportunity at Delhi, andfor the purpose Apte and myself were to go there. As stated In paragraph 17, Badge offered tocome to Delhi to take part in the demonstration referred to above. We felt an urgent need of taking some volunteers with us for a successful demonstration. Before we started for Delhi westarted collecting money to meet the expenses for the journey and for the expenses of thevolunteers.


22. I emphatically deny that we saw Savarkar on the 17 January, 1948 or that Savarkar blessedus with the words 'Yashasvi Houn Ya,' Be successful and come; Similarly I also deny that we hadany conversation with Badge or that Apte or myself uttered the words- "Tatyaravani aseBhavishya kele ahe ki Gandhijichi shambhar varshe bharali-ata apale kam nishchita honar yatkahi sanshaya nahi;-" After we met Badge on the 15th of January, 1948 at the Hindu SabhaOffice at Dadar, we-Apte and myself-went on our business in connection with the Press.


23. Apte and myself came to Delhi by plane on the 17th of January, 1948 and we put up at theMarina Hotel. On the morning of the 20th of January, 1948 Badge came to the hotel andinformed Apte in my presence that he and his servant Kistaiya would go to the prayer-ground inthe evening with Apte just to see the scene of prayer where demonstrations would be held.When Badge came in the morning I was lying down on bed as I was feeling unwell owing tosevere headache and I told Badge that I may not go to the prayer-ground as I was unwell. Thestatements of Badge that Apte, Gopal Godse, Karkare, Madanlal, Badge and his servantMadanlal all collected at Marina Hotel, that Madanlal and Badge had their meals there, thatGopal Godse was found repairing the revolver, that Apte, Karkare, Madanlal and Badge went tothe Bath-room and' were fixing the detonators, Fuse-wires and primers to the gun-cotton stabsand hand-grenades or that Madanlal and I were standing at the either sides of the door of theroom are entirely false. Badge has put in my mouth the words "Badge, this is our last effort; thework must be accomplished-see to it that every thing is arranged properly." I deny that Iaddressed the said or similar words to Badge on that day or any other day. As stated before,Badge came to the room in the morning and informed me that he would attend the prayer-meeting in the evening. We Clad no meeting at all on that day in my room as stated by Badge.Gopal Godse, to my knowledge, was not even in Delhi. Nobody arranged or fixed detonatorsfuse-wires or primers to gun-cotton slabs or hand-grenades in the room. In fact there was nosuch ammunition either with me or with Apte. Badge's vivid description about the distributionof arms and ammunition amongst the party and about assumption of false names is all false. Itis not necessary for me to discuss the evidence and show the falsity of these statements as mycounsel will do it in his address.


24. As stated above, being unwell due to severe headache, I did not oven go to the prayer-ground. Apte returned to the Marina Hotel at about 6-00 p.m. and informed me that he had aview of the prayer meeting and would be in a position to stage the demonstration in a day ortwo. After about an hour, we heard some commotion at Gandhiji's prayer meeting due to anexplosion and we further heard of an arrest, of a refugee. Apte thought it advisable to leaveDelhi immediately and we left accordingly. It is not true that I met Badge at Hindu SabhaBhavan on 20th January 1948. Several witnesses have deposed about my being at the BirlaHouse on the 20th January, 1948; but I emphatically say that they are grossly mistaken in sayingso. I submit that they are confusing my presence with somebody else's. The identification bysome of these witnesses is utterly unreliable in view of the fact that I had hot been to the BirlaHouse on that day. These witnesses have identified me as I was shown to many of them by thePolice while I was kept at Tughlak Road Police Station. Further it was easy to identify me onaccount of the bandage over my head which remained up to the 12th of February 1948. The Police witnesses who have deposed to the contrary have perjured themselves and I have madea complaint at the very first identification parade in respect of the Delhi witnesses held inBombay about this.


25. After a deliberate consideration of our future plan of staging the demonstration at Delhi inthe prayer- meeting of Gandhiji; I very reluctantly consented to join Mr. Apte. It was notpossible to get willing and able volunteers from Bombay and Poona under the new situation.Besides all our funds were exhausted and we were not in a position to spend for the batch of volunteers from Bombay to Delhi and back. We, therefore, decided to proceed to Gwalior andsee Dr. Parchure who had under him to volunteers of Hindu Rashtra Sena. It was also a more orless economical plan to take volunteers from Gwalior to Delhi. We therefore started forGwalior, after reaching Delhi by plane on the 27th of January 1948, by the night train reachingGwalior very early morning. As it was dark at the time we halted in a Dharamshala near theStation and in the morning we saw Dr. Parchure at his residence. He was in a hurry to 90 to hisdispensary. He asked us to see him in the afternoon. We saw him at about 4 p.m. and we foundthat he did not wish to help us and that his Volunteers were busy in local affairs. Completelydisappointed I asked Apte to go back to Bombay or Poona and try for volunteers there and Icame back to Delhi telling Apte that I would myself try for volunteers from amongst therefugees. I deny categorically and with all the emphasis at my command that Mr. Apte andmyself had been to Gwalior to secure a revolver or a pistol, as a number of such revolvers werebeing offered for sale clandestinely. Having reached Delhi in great despair, I visited the refugeecamps at Delhi. While moving in the camps. my thoughts took a definite and final turn.Chancely I came across a refugee who was dealing in arms and he showed me the pistol. I wastempted to have it and I bought it from him. It is the pistol which I later used in the shots I fired.On coming to the Delhi Railway station I spent the night of 29th thinking and re-thinking aboutmy resolve to end the present chaos and further destruction of the Hindus.. I shall now dealabout my relations with Veer Savarkar in political and other matters of which the prosecutionhas made so much.


26. Born in a devotional Brahmin family, I instinctively came to revere Hindu religion, Hinduhistory and Hindu culture. I had been intensely proud of Hindudom as a whole. Nevertheless asI grew up I developed a tendency to free thinking unfettered by any superstitious allegiance toany `ism', political or religious. That is why I worked actively for the eradication of untouchability and the caste system based on birth alone. I publicly joined anti-castemovements and maintained that all Hindus should be treated with equal status as to rightssocial and religious, and should be high or low on their merit alone and not through theaccident of birth in a particular caste or profession. I used publicly to take part in organisedanti-caste dinners in which thousands of Hindus, Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, Chamars andBhangis broke the caste rules and dined in the company of each other.


27. I have read the works of Dadabhai Naoroji, Vivekanand. Gokhale, Tilak along with the booksof ancient and modern history of India and some prominent countries in the world like England,France, America and Russia. Not only that, I studied tolerably well the current tenets of Socialism and Communism too. But above all I studied very closely whatever Veer Savarkar and Gandhiji had written and spoken, as to my mind, these two ideologies had contributed more tomould the thought and action of modern India during the last fifty years or so, than any othersingle factor had done.


28. All this reading and thinking brought me to believe that above all it was my first duty toserve the Hindudom and the Hindu people, as a patriot and even as a humanitarian. For, is itnot true that to secure the freedom and to safeguard the just interests of some thirty crores of Hindus constituted the freedom and the well-being of one fifth of human race ? This convictionled me naturally to devote myself to the new Hindu Sanghatanist ideology and programmewhich alone I came to believe, could win and preserve the national independence of Hindusthan, my Motherland and enable her to render true service to humanity as well.


29. I have worked for several years in R.S.S. and subsequently joined the Hindu Mahasabha andvolunteered myself to fight as a soldier under its pan Hindu flag. About this time Veer Savarkarwas elected to the Presidentship of the Hindu Mahasabha. The Hindu Sanghatan Movement gotverify electrified and vivified as never before, under his magnetic lead and whirl-windpropaganda. Millions of Hindu Sanghatanists looked up to him as the chosen hero, as the ablestand most faithful advocate of Hindu cause. I too was one of them. I worked devotedly to carryon the Mahasabha activities and hence came to be personally acquainted with Savarkarji.


30. Later on my friend and co-worker in the Hindu cause, Mr. Apte and myself decided to start adaily paper devoted to Hindu Sanghatan Movement. We met a number of prominent HinduSanghatanist leaders and after securing sympathy and financial help from them met VeerSavarkar as the President if the Mahasabha. He too sympathised with our project and advanceda sum of rupees fifteen thousand as his quota to the capital required, on condition that alimited company should be registered at our earliest convenience, and his advance should betransformed into so many shares.


31. Accordingly, we started the Daily Marathi paper `Daily Agrani' and after some period alimited company was registered. The sums advanced by Veer Savarkar and others wereconverted into shares of Rs. 500 each. Amongst the directors and donors were such leading andrespected gentlemen as Seth Gulab Chand (a brother of Shriman Seth Walchand Hirachandji),Mr. Shingre, an ex- Minister of Bhor, Shreeman Bhalji Pendharkar, the film magnate of Kolhapurand others. Mr. Apte and myself were the Managing Directors of the Company. I was the editorsolely responsible for the policy of the paper. We conducted the paper for years on strictlyconstitutional lines, and pleaded the policy of Hindu Sanghatan in general.


32. As press representatives of this daily, Mr. Apte and myself used to visit the Hindu SanghatanOffice situated at Veer Savarkar's house in the middle hall on the ground floor of that house.This Hindu Sanghatan Office was in the charge of Mr. G. V. Damle, the Secretary to VeerSavarkar and Mr. Appa Kasar, Veer Savarkar's body-guard. We used to visit this office to securefrom Mr. Damle, the Secretary, public statements issued by Veer Savarkar for, the Press ingeneral, to note down other important information about the President's tours, interviews etc.which his Secretary was authorised to publish. Mr. A. S. Bhide, who used to edit an English Weekly namely 'Free Hindustan' was also residing with his family as a tenant in a set of roomson the same. ground-floor. The second reason why Mr. Apte and I used to visit Savarkar Sadanwas to see Messers Bhide, Damle, Kasar and other Hindu Sabha workers who used to gather atthe Hindu Sanghatan Office and had been personal friends to each other. To meet them all andhave friendly chats, whenever we went to Bombay, we used to go to this office. Sometimes weused to discuss there the Hindu Sanghatan work with them. Some of them used to help us insecuring advertisements for our paper.


33. But it must be specially noted that these our casual visits to Savarkar Sadan were restrictedgenerally to this Hindu Sanghatan Office, situated on the ground floor, for the above mentionedreasons. Veer Savarkar was residing on the first floor of the house. It was only very rarely thatwe could interview Veer Savarkar personally and that too by special appointment.


34. Some three years ago, Veer Savarkar's health got seriously impaired and since than he wasgenerally confined to bed. He thereafter suspended all his public activities and more or lessretired from public life. Thus deprived of his virile leadership and magnetic influence, theactivities and influence of the Hindu Mahasabha too got crippled and when Dr. Mookerjeebecame its President the Mahasabha was actually reduced to the position of a hand-maid tothe Congress. It became quite incapable of counteracting the dangerous anti-Hindu activities of Gandhite cabal on the one hand and the Muslim League on the other. Seeing this I lost all hopein the efficiency of the policy of running the Hindu Sanghatan movement on the constitutionallines of the Mahasabha and began to shift myself. I determined to organise a youthful band of Hindu Sanghatanists and adopt a fighting programme both against the Congress and the Leaguewithout consulting any of those prominent but old leaders of the Mahasabha.


35. I shall just mention here two striking instances only out of a number of them which painfullyopened my eyes about this time to the fact that Veer Savarkar and other old leaders of Mahasabha could no longer be relied upon by me and the Hindu youths of my persuasion toguide or even to appreciate the fighting programme with which we aimed to counteractGandhiji's activities inside and the Muslim League outside. In 1946 or thereabout the Muslimatrocities perpetrated on the Hindus under the Government patronage of Surhawardy inNoakhali, made our blood boil. Our shame and indignation knew no bounds, when we saw thatGandhiji had come forward to shield that very Surhawardy and began to style him as 'ShahidSaheb-a Martyr Soul (I) even in his prayer meetings. Not only that but after coming to Delhi,Gandhiji began to hold his prayer meetings in a Hindu temple in Bhangi Colony and persisted inreading passages from Quoran as a part of the prayer in that Hindu temple in spite of theprotest of the Hindu worshippers there. Of course he dared not read the Geeta in a mosque inthe teeth of Muslim opposition. He knew what a terrible Muslim reaction would have been if hehad done so. But he could safely trample over the feelings of the tolerant Hindu. To belie thisbelief I determinist to prove to Gandhiji that the Hindu too could be intolerant when his honourwas insulted.


36. Mr. Apte and I decided to stage a series of demonstrations in Delhi at his meetings andmake it impossible for him to hold such prayers. Mr. Apte with a large section of the refugees took out a procession in Delhi condemning Gandhiji and his Shahid Surhawardy and rushed intohis prayer-meeting in the Bhangi Colony. Seeing the tumultuous protest that followed, Gandhijislyly took shelter behind barred and guarded doors although at that time we had not theslightest idea of using any force.


37. But when Veer Savarkar read the report of this demonstration, instead of appreciating ourmove, he called me and blamed me privately for such anarchical tactics, even though thisdemonstration was peaceful. He said Just as I condemn the Congressites for breaking up yourparty meetings and election booths by disorderly conduct, I ought to condemn any suchundemocratic conduct on the part of Hindu Sanghatanist also. If Gandhiji preached anti-Hinduteachings in his prayer meetings you should hold your party meetings and condemn histeachings. Amongst ourselves all different parties should, conduct their propaganda on strictlyconstitutional lines."


  1. The second leading incident took Place just after this, when the partition of India wasactually decided on. A group of Hindu Mahasabhaites wanted to know what the HinduMahasabha's attitude should be with regard to the Congress Government which was certain tobe the Government of the New State, ruling over the so-called India State in the remaining Partof India. Veer Savarkar and other top-ranking Hindu Mahasabha leaders quickly andemphatically said that any Indian Government formed to conduct such a freed Indian Stateshould be no longer looked upon as a Government of a party-a Congress Government-but mustbe honoured and obeyed as a National Government of Hindustan and howsoever they deploredthe creation of Pakistan their future motto should be a loyal and all-out support to the newlyborn Free Indian State. Thus alone would it be possible to safeguard the newly won Freedom.Any attempt on their part to undermine the Indian State would bring in a Civil War and enablethe Muslims to realise their sinful and secret mission to turn the whole of India into Pakistan.

39. My friends and I however returned unconvinced. We felt in our heart of hearts that timehad come when we should bid good-bye to Veer Savarkar's lead and cease to consult him in ourfuture policy and programmes, nor should we confide to him our future plans.


40. Just after that followed the terrible outburst of Muslim fanaticism in the Punjab and otherparts of India. The Congress Government began to persecute, prosecute, and shoot the Hindusthemselves who dared to resist the Muslim forces in Bihar, Calcutta, Punjab, and other places.Our worst fears seemed to be coming true; and yet how painful and disgraceful it was for us tofind that the 15th of August 1947 was celebrated with illumination and festivities, while thewhole of the Punjab was set by the Muslims in flames and Hindu blood ran rivers. The HinduMahasabhaites of my persuasion decided to boycott the festivities and the CongressiteGovernment and to launch a fighting programme to check Muslim onslaughts.


41. The meetings of the Working Committee of the Hindu Mahasabha and the All-India HinduConvention were held on or about 9th of August 1947, in Delhi, and Veer Savarkar presided.Mr. Apte and other friends and myself wanted to make a last effort to bring the Mahasabhaand its veteran leaders like Veer Savarkar, Dr. Mookerjee, Mr. L. B. Bhopatkar and others to our views and to adopt a fighting resolution. The Mahasabha Working Committee did not acceptour suggestion to appoint a council of action against Hyderabad or boy-cott the CongressGovernment which was to run the newly created State of Divided India. To my mind torecognise a State of Divided India was tantamount to be a party to the cursed vivisection of India. But instead the Working Committee passed a frothy resolution and asked people to hoistthe Bhagwa Flag on their houses on the day of August 15th, 1947. Veer Savarkar went furtherand actually insisted that the tricolour flag with the wheel should be recognised as a NationalFlag. We openly resented his attitude.


42. Not only that but on the 15th August, Veer Savarkar setting aside the will of the majority of Hindu Sanghatanists hoisted this new flag with the wheel, as a National Flag, on his house alongwith the Bhagwa. In addition to that when Dr. Mookerji asked his permission through a trunkcall to Veer Savarkar, as to whether Dr. Mookerji should accept a portfolio in the. Indian UnionMinistry, Veer Savarkar emphatically replied that the new Government must be recognised as aNational Government whatever may be the elected party leading it, and must be supported byall patriots and consequently Hindu Sanghatanists ought to extend co-operation by accepting aportfolio if called upon to do so. He also congratulated the Congressite Ministers for thecompromising attitude they were talking in calling on a Hindu Sabha leader like Dr. Mookerji toparticipate in the forming of the National Ministry, Mr. Bhopatkar too supported Dr. Mookerji.


43. By this time it came to light that some top leaders of the Congress and some of theirProvincial Ministers too had contacted Veer Savarkar and there was a brisk correspondencebetween them for forming a united front to support the new State, which policy Veer Savarkarhad already advocated. I myself could not be opposed to a common front of patriots, but whilethe Congress Government continued to be so sheepishly under the thumb of Gandhiji and whileGandhiji could thrust his anti- Hindu fads on that Congressite Government by resorting to sucha simple trick as threatening a fast, it was clear to me that any common front under suchcircumstances was bound to be another form of setting up Gandhiji's Dictatorship andconsequently a betrayal of Hindudom.


44. Every one of these steps taken by Veer Savarkar were so deeply resented by me that Imyself along with Mr. Apte and some of the Young Hindu Sanghatanist friends decided once forall to chalk and work out our active programme quite independently of the Maha Sabha or itsold veteran leaders. We resolved not to confide any of our new plans to any of them includingVeer Savarkar.


45. I began to criticise the Hindu Maha Sabha and the policy of its old leaders in my daily paper`Agrani' or 'Hindu Rashtra' and to openly call upon the young generation of Hindu Sanghataniststo accept our own active programme.


46. In order to work out my new independent programme I decided to undertake two definiteitems. in hand to begin with. The first item was to organise a series of powerful though peacefuldemonstrations against Gandhiji so as to make him feel the impact of organised Hindudiscontent, and to create confusion and disorder by demonstrative protests, etc. in his obnoxious prayer- meetings through which he then carried out his anti-Hindu propaganda; andsecondly to carry on an agitation against the Hyderabad State to defend our Hindu brothers andsisters near about the frontier line from the fanatic atrocities committed, on them by theMuslims As such a programme could only be carried out on secret and dictatorial lines weresolved to divulge it only to those who believed in it and would obey our orders withoutquestioning.


47. I would not have referred to the above details in this statement but for the learnedprosecutor's opening speech in which be painted me as a mere tool in the hands of VeerSavarkar. This statement I felt to be a deliberate insult to my independence of judgment andaction. The above facts had to be mentioned to dispel the incorrect impression about me, if any. Consequently, before I begin to narrate the rest of my statement, I re- assert that it is nottrue that Veer Savarkar had any knowledge of my activities which ultimately led me to fireshots at Gandhiji; I repeat that it is not true and it is totally false that either Mr. Apte in mypresence or I myself told Badge that Veer Savarkar had given us an order to finish Gandhiji,Nehru and Suhrawardy as the approver is made to state falsely. It is not true that. we ever tookBadge to Veer Savarkar's house to take the last Darshan of Veer Savarkar in connection withany such plot or that Veer Savarkar ever said to us Be successful and come back'-`Yashasvi hounya.' 'Neither Mr. Apte in my presence nor I myself ever told Badge that Veer Savarkar told usthat Gandhiji's hundred years were over and therefore we were bound to be successful. I wasneither so superstitious as to crave such blessings, nor so childish as to believe in such fortune-telling.(Continues on the next page)

Courtesy of Shri Gopal Godse

Source: Political BuZZ !!!: Nathuram Godse Part -2
 
Gopal Godse offered a razor-sharp recollection of his own role in the killing, from the momentwhen Nathuram Godse asked him if he would participate -
"I gave my consent immediately"
-to a first botched attempt on 20 January 1948, 10 days before the assassination. On thatoccasion, the conspirators detonated explosives in a wall at the New Delhi house with a view todrawing people away from Gandhi, but stopped short of tossing a grenade at their intendedvictim for fear of killing bystanders.
"Gandhi used to claim the Partition would be over his dead body. So after Partition when hedidn't die, we killed him. "
"You know, I had mixed feelings," he said. "I knew I was going to lose a brother; and I had nodoubt that I was going to be arrested and share his fate. On the other hand, our target had been fulfilled. We had done away with somebody who was not only satisfied with thecreation of Pakistan; he wanted to see Pakistan progress; he was in fact the father of Pakistan. "
"So if you ask me, did I feel any repentance, my reply is no -- not in the least. We had takenthe decision fully knowing what we were doing. We knew if we allowed this person to live any longer, he would do more and more harm to Hindus, and that we could not allow it."
"Our love for the motherland made us do it. We are not ashamed of it. Gandhi should havebeen honest to admit that his life was a failure. "
"You see, right from Pakistan and Bangladesh every Muslim is a converted Hindu. Gandhi'sappeasement attitude (towards the Muslims) went far too much. That was why we killed him.Two hundred and fifty thousand Hindus were killed in Noakhali in October 1946. Hinduwomen were forced to remove their sindhoor and do Muslim rituals. And Gandhi said, 'Hindusmust bow their heads if Muslims want to kill them. We should follow the principle of ahimsa(non-violence).' How can any sensible
Source: Political BuZZ !!!: Gopal Godse: The Living Legend

"If devotion to one's country amounts to a sin, I admit I have committed that sin. If it ismeritorious, I humbly claim the merit thereof. I fully and confidently believe that if there beany other court of justice beyond the one founded by the mortals, my act will not be taken asunjust. If after the death there be no such place to reach or to go, there is nothing to be said. Ihave resorted to the action I did purely for the benefit of the humanity. I do say that my shotswere fired at the person whose policy and action had brought rack and ruin and destructionto lakhs of Hindus."
-- Shri Nathuram Godse
 

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