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Govt clears largest defence deal with US


NEW DELHI, JANUARY 24: The government today gave the go-ahead for the biggest defence deal with the US so far, clearing the purchase of six C-130J Super Hercules military transport aircraft for Special Forces operations at a cost of about Rs 4000 crore. It’s learnt that the Cabinet Committee on Security approved the deal which will now be signed by officials soon.

The clearance comes a month ahead of the visit of US Secretary of Defence Robert Gates, who will make his first trip to India on February 25-26. US pointsperson on the nuclear deal, outgoing Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns is also looking to visit India next month.

While India recently bought naval vessel USS Trenton, now rechristened as INS Jalashva, for about $50 million, there has been no military aircraft deal with the US in over five decades. The old Fairchild C-119s were the last lot of American military aircraft that India got in the 1950s. Thereafter, India’s transport fleet has largely been made up of Russian aircraft from the Antonov and Ilyushin series.

Manufactured by Lockheed Martin, the aircraft is known for its ability to land in makeshift airstrips and rugged runways. What is more significant for India is that the aircraft will come in the Special Forces configuration. This would include additional equipment like missile-warning systems, advance radar-warning receivers and counter-measures dispensing systems. This version is believed to be far superior to what is with Pakistan.

The deal has been in the works for a while with the Bush Administration notifying the US Congress last year of India’s request. However, it got stalled with the whole gamut of the Indo-US strategic partnership coming under sharp focus here due to strong Left opposition stemming from its rejection of the nuclear deal.

It’s learnt that in the margins of the Indo-US Defence Policy Group that met about a week ago in Washington, Gates even met Indian officials. It may be noted that there are some key defence deals that US will be eyeing from India is coming months:

• Defence Acquisition Committee has just given go-ahead to start tendering process for 15 heavy lift choppers — Boeing and Sikorsky would be contenders for this.

• Re-tendering will take place under the Cheetah Replacement programme for 310 choppers (IAF has added its demand for 115 helicopters to Army’s 197) — US Bell Helicopters will compete with French Eurocopter and the Russian Kamov on this key deal.

• RFP (Request for Proposal) is expected in a fortnight for 22 attack helicopters — Boeing, Bell and Sikorsky are all awaiting to participate in this deal.

• IAF is going for three Boeing Business Jets for VIPs.


This is all apart from the mega deal for 126 multi-role combat aircraft for which the RFP is now out and major players like Lockheed Martin are in competition. This is expected to be a deal worth about $14 billion.

Clearly, sources said, India has sent the signal to the US that it is not politically strapped on taking decisions for key purchases which are important for the country. The C-130J deal was a government-to-government deal which comes under the US government’s category of Foreign Military Sales. Many others, like various helicopter deals and the combat aircraft deal, involve tenders where US companies will have to compete with others.

What the Hercules brings

• Will provide India with special operations airlift capability, major deterrent factor, useful in humanitarian missions

• Known for ability to land in short, makeshift and rugged airstrips

• Configuration includes 8 each of AAR-47 missile-warning systems, radar-warning receivers

•About 30 m in length, permissible payload of 20,000 kg

IndianExpress.com :: Govt clears largest defence deal with US
 
Go ahead of government regarding this transport aircraft deal and simultenous developement of F-16IN, both this scenario are clear indiction of wind is somehow flowing towards the order of F-16 or F-18 to fulfill our IAF's MRCA deal. Since rightnow F-16IN is offering an unprecedent amount of technological leap over all other counterparts of MRCA deal. F-16 was considered as a dark horse, but now MRCA deal has complelled LM to transform it as a potent and much more lethal machine the ever before and the answer for this machine is available with only few countries in the world.

F-16IN is not a ordinary as it sounds to most as compared to Typhoon and Rafale.
 
F-16 IN or not, will NOT get selected mate. And you can count on it.

I too do not support the purchase of F-16IN as the procurment is dependent on US laws, so they have the right to hold the military sale if they want to impose sanctions. A good example is how pakistan had suffered the delay.

Our nuclear bomb is only 43Kilotonne. There is a chance that we develop larger bombs to match chinas 6Megatonne bombs, which would lead to sanctions.

Russia too is not keeping timelines. The best bet would be EuroFighter.
 
I too do not support the purchase of F-16IN as the procurment is dependent on US laws, so they have the right to hold the military sale if they want to impose sanctions. A good example is how pakistan had suffered the delay.

There is a difference the way US takes her relationship with both pakistan and india. US sees india as a counter threat to china and as a larger market for her goods specially defence. If US would have wanted to delay why would they be coming up with a whole new design to meet the needs of IA. That wasnt the case with PAF. So whether you go for an F-16N or not but there is no comparision at all the way US deals both india and pakistan. India is just too important for the US to let it go.
 
I too do not support the purchase of F-16IN as the procurment is dependent on US laws, so they have the right to hold the military sale if they want to impose sanctions. A good example is how pakistan had suffered the delay.

Nope, the plane would be manufactured here barring the initial deliveries and only the most sensitive electronics would be sourced from the US. So its not a problem of spare parts or such. AESA initself could/would be gotten from other places or might be developed inhouse, integration though would be a problem. Then again, the Saudi model might be followed, a balance of what we want and what they want.

Anyhow, no F-16's will be bought.
 
Malay, just consider the amount of high profile technolgies being configured o f-16IN which we yet to see on Rafale, Eurofighter.

Kent, GOI will use these large defence deals to further their global strategic intrests. Placing order on f16 IN has a good possibility of negative impact on relations with Russians. So you can be assured that MRCA will go to EU or russia.
 
Kent, GOI will use these large defence deals to further their global strategic intrests. Placing order on f16 IN has a good possibility of negative impact on relations with Russians. So you can be assured that MRCA will go to EU or russia.

i am not so sure about that brother.the IAF is looking to decrease it's dependence on russia. if anything, among all the contenders russia has the least chance of securing the deal.

mark my words, the MRCA deal will be bagged by an american company.

the only question that remains to be answered is whether it will be lockmart or boeing.:usflag:
 
Malay, just consider the amount of high profile technolgies being configured o f-16IN which we yet to see on Rafale, Eurofighter.

Mate, Typhoon and Rafale both offer AESA radars, if that is what you are mentioning. I *think* that Typhoon also has a towed decoy in development as well. Typhoon also offers limited SC. There is nothing in the F-16IN that is not offered by the Typhoon and eventually the Rafale.

And both the European contenders offer Meteor as well when its developed.

If we HAVE to go with an American option, the Shornet would be a MUCH better bet. The USN is committed to support it for another two decades, so we dont have to pay to design the upgrades atleast, and that considering that the MRCA is actually intended to be a strike platform for the IAF, nothing beats Shornet in that aspect.
 

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