Human error led to 45% of IAF air crashes
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None...This is purely statistical abuse.
We know that there are diverse levels of experience and classes of aircrafts in any air force. And even the standards of those pilots are not true 'standards' but simply agreed upon ones applicable only to each air force. A 'fighter pilot' in one air force could possess only the minimum level of training for flight whereas for the USAF, the 'fighter pilot' could be a weapons school graduate and done two assignments with one of them overseas. The USAF would have more mishaps, of course, but would anyone call the USAF the inferior?
We need more precise sampling, simple as that.
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We can rule out identical aircrafts as the Indian Air Force does not have F-15s or F-18s...etc...etc...I hope you get the point. So the next best thing is to use class and that class could contain things like gross take-off weights, wingspan, thrust, and so on. Next could be pilot experience, in other words, how long has he been out of flight training and in active duty assignments. Next could be how many hours does one air force allow its pilots to fly versus the comparable air force. Too much criteria and you could end up with no comparable air forces at all as not every air force has long range bombers or large transports. Next could be the number of pilots in a squadron. The air forces that you want to compare should have comparable numbers of active duty pilots. So it is clear by now that statistical abuse can go both ways.
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45pc of IAF air crashes due to human error
Monday, April 19, 2010
News Desk
NEW DELHI: A whopping 45 per cent of the Indian Air Force (IAF) air crashes in the last six years have taken place due to human error.
The IAF has informed the parliamentary committee on defence that it had recorded a total of 74 air mishaps between April 2004 and March 2010, of which a high of 42 per cent was due to technical faults in the aircraft and a mere six per cent due to bird-hit.
The figures in percentage would mean the IAF has suffered 33 crashes out of 74 due to human errors, 31 due to technical errors in the aircraft and another four due to bird hit. Reasons for the remaining six crashes have not been given to the committee.
The committee, in its latest report submitted to Parliament, noted with concern that these mishaps were taking place in the backdrop of the IAF facing a crisis due to shortage of trainer aircraft and obsolescence of simulators for its pilot trainees.
It pointed out with concern that the IAFs Hindustan Piston Trainer-32, a basic trainer aircraft, had remained grounded for over a year now following a mishap early last year and the Kiran Mk-II HJT-16 simulators were in disuse.
The committee, headed by Congress MP Satpal Maharaj, said the Defence Ministry should take all steps to acquire new trainer aircraft and upgrade the simulators so that adequate training is provided for pilots, which would definitely result in reduction of accidents due to human failure.
The IAF has faced problems with HPT-32s engine and airframe, even as it spared all its Kiran trainers (usually used for secondary flying training) to enable rookie pilots to learn flying skills. It also had a gap in its training syllabus due to the lack of an Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) when pilots moved on from Kiran aircraft to MiG-21 supersonic fighter jets. After a protracted process lasting 20 years, the IAF contracted to buy 66 BAEs Hawk AJTs in 2004 and the first lot was inducted for training pilots in 2008.
45pc of IAF air crashes due to human error
45pc of IAF air crashes due to human error
Monday, April 19, 2010
News Desk
NEW DELHI: A whopping 45 per cent of the Indian Air Force (IAF) air crashes in the last six years have taken place due to human error.
The IAF has informed the parliamentary committee on defence that it had recorded a total of 74 air mishaps between April 2004 and March 2010, of which a high of 42 per cent was due to technical faults in the aircraft and a mere six per cent due to bird-hit.
The figures in percentage would mean the IAF has suffered 33 crashes out of 74 due to human errors, 31 due to technical errors in the aircraft and another four due to bird hit. Reasons for the remaining six crashes have not been given to the committee.
The committee, in its latest report submitted to Parliament, noted with concern that these mishaps were taking place in the backdrop of the IAF facing a crisis due to shortage of trainer aircraft and obsolescence of simulators for its pilot trainees.
It pointed out with concern that the IAFs Hindustan Piston Trainer-32, a basic trainer aircraft, had remained grounded for over a year now following a mishap early last year and the Kiran Mk-II HJT-16 simulators were in disuse.
The committee, headed by Congress MP Satpal Maharaj, said the Defence Ministry should take all steps to acquire new trainer aircraft and upgrade the simulators so that adequate training is provided for pilots, which would definitely result in reduction of accidents due to human failure.
The IAF has faced problems with HPT-32s engine and airframe, even as it spared all its Kiran trainers (usually used for secondary flying training) to enable rookie pilots to learn flying skills. It also had a gap in its training syllabus due to the lack of an Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) when pilots moved on from Kiran aircraft to MiG-21 supersonic fighter jets. After a protracted process lasting 20 years, the IAF contracted to buy 66 BAEs Hawk AJTs in 2004 and the first lot was inducted for training pilots in 2008.
45pc of IAF air crashes due to human error
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besides IAF, i remember the air crash of Suadi- Airline and Russian Cargo in1999 i guess, in india was also due to lack of proper communication of tower with these two planes.. these guys atleast practice some thing for communication before saying anything else.
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NEW DELHI: A whopping 45% of IAF air crashes in the last six years have taken place due to human error.
The IAF has informed the parliamentary committee on defence that it had recorded a total of 74 air mishaps between April 2004 and March 2010, of which a high of 42% was due to technical faults in the aircraft and a mere 6% due to bird-hit.
The figures in percentage would mean the IAF has suffered 33 crashes out of 74 due to human errors, 31 due to technical errors in the aircraft and another 4 due to bird hit. Reasons for the remaining six crashes have not been given to the committee.
The committee, in its latest report submitted to Parliament, noted with concern that these mishaps were taking place in the backdrop of the IAF facing a crisis due to shortage of trainer aircraft and obsolescence of simulators for its pilot trainees.
It pointed out with concern that the IAFs Hindustan Piston Trainer-32, a basic trainer aircraft, had remained grounded for over a year now following a mishap early last year and the Kiran Mk-II HJT-16 simulators were in disuse.
The committee, headed by Congress MP Satpal Maharaj, said the Defence Ministry should take all steps to acquire new trainer aircraft and upgrade the simulators so that adequate training is provided for pilots, which would definitely result in reduction of accidents due to human failure.
The IAF has faced problems with HPT-32s engine and airframe, even as it spared all its Kiran trainers (usually used for secondary flying training) to enable rookie pilots to learn flying skills.
It also had a gap in its training syllabus due to the lack of an Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) when pilots moved on from Kiran aircraft to MiG-21 supersonic fighter jets.
After a protracted process lasting 20 years, the IAF contracted to buy 66 BAEs Hawk AJTs in 2004 and the first lot were inducted for training pilots in 2008.
Times of India
The IAF has informed the parliamentary committee on defence that it had recorded a total of 74 air mishaps between April 2004 and March 2010, of which a high of 42% was due to technical faults in the aircraft and a mere 6% due to bird-hit.
The figures in percentage would mean the IAF has suffered 33 crashes out of 74 due to human errors, 31 due to technical errors in the aircraft and another 4 due to bird hit. Reasons for the remaining six crashes have not been given to the committee.
The committee, in its latest report submitted to Parliament, noted with concern that these mishaps were taking place in the backdrop of the IAF facing a crisis due to shortage of trainer aircraft and obsolescence of simulators for its pilot trainees.
It pointed out with concern that the IAFs Hindustan Piston Trainer-32, a basic trainer aircraft, had remained grounded for over a year now following a mishap early last year and the Kiran Mk-II HJT-16 simulators were in disuse.
The committee, headed by Congress MP Satpal Maharaj, said the Defence Ministry should take all steps to acquire new trainer aircraft and upgrade the simulators so that adequate training is provided for pilots, which would definitely result in reduction of accidents due to human failure.
The IAF has faced problems with HPT-32s engine and airframe, even as it spared all its Kiran trainers (usually used for secondary flying training) to enable rookie pilots to learn flying skills.
It also had a gap in its training syllabus due to the lack of an Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) when pilots moved on from Kiran aircraft to MiG-21 supersonic fighter jets.
After a protracted process lasting 20 years, the IAF contracted to buy 66 BAEs Hawk AJTs in 2004 and the first lot were inducted for training pilots in 2008.
Times of India
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45% of IAF air crashes due to human error
New Delhi, Apr 18 (PTI) A whopping 45 per cent of IAF air crashes in the last six years have taken place due to human error.
The IAF has informed the Parliamentary Committee on Defence that it had recorded a total of 74 air mishaps between April 2004 and March 2010, of which a high of 42 per cent was due to technical faults in the aircraft and a mere six per cent due to bird-hit.
The figures in percentage would mean the IAF has suffered 33 crashes out of 74 due to human errors, 31 due to technical errors in the aircraft and another 4 due to bird hit. Reasons for the remaining six crashes have not been given to the Committee.
The Committee, in its latest report submitted to Parliament, noted with concern that these mishaps were taking place in the backdrop of the IAF facing a crisis due to shortage of trainer aircraft and obsolescence of simulators for its pilot trainees. It pointed out with concern that the IAF's Hindustan Piston Trainer-32, a basic trainer aircraft, had remained grounded for over a year now following a mishap early last year and the Kiran Mk-II HJT-16 simulators were in disuse.
The committee, headed by Congress MP Satpal Maharaj, said the Defence Ministry should take all steps to acquire new trainer aircraft and upgrade the simulators "so that adequate training is provided for pilots, which would definitely result in reduction of accidents due to human failure."
The IAF has faced problems with HPT-32's engine and airframe, even as it spared all its Kiran trainers (usually used for secondary flying training) to enable rookie pilots to learn flying skills.
It also had a gap in its training syllabus due to the lack of an Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) when pilots moved on from Kiran aircraft to MiG-21 supersonic fighter jets. After a protracted process lasting 20 years, the IAF contracted to buy 66 BAE's Hawk AJTs in 2004 and the first lot were inducted for training pilots in 2008.
New Delhi, Apr 18 (PTI) A whopping 45 per cent of IAF air crashes in the last six years have taken place due to human error.
The IAF has informed the Parliamentary Committee on Defence that it had recorded a total of 74 air mishaps between April 2004 and March 2010, of which a high of 42 per cent was due to technical faults in the aircraft and a mere six per cent due to bird-hit.
The figures in percentage would mean the IAF has suffered 33 crashes out of 74 due to human errors, 31 due to technical errors in the aircraft and another 4 due to bird hit. Reasons for the remaining six crashes have not been given to the Committee.
The Committee, in its latest report submitted to Parliament, noted with concern that these mishaps were taking place in the backdrop of the IAF facing a crisis due to shortage of trainer aircraft and obsolescence of simulators for its pilot trainees. It pointed out with concern that the IAF's Hindustan Piston Trainer-32, a basic trainer aircraft, had remained grounded for over a year now following a mishap early last year and the Kiran Mk-II HJT-16 simulators were in disuse.
The committee, headed by Congress MP Satpal Maharaj, said the Defence Ministry should take all steps to acquire new trainer aircraft and upgrade the simulators "so that adequate training is provided for pilots, which would definitely result in reduction of accidents due to human failure."
The IAF has faced problems with HPT-32's engine and airframe, even as it spared all its Kiran trainers (usually used for secondary flying training) to enable rookie pilots to learn flying skills.
It also had a gap in its training syllabus due to the lack of an Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) when pilots moved on from Kiran aircraft to MiG-21 supersonic fighter jets. After a protracted process lasting 20 years, the IAF contracted to buy 66 BAE's Hawk AJTs in 2004 and the first lot were inducted for training pilots in 2008.
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Aircraft Attrition of the Airforces of the Indian Subcontinent
The Wreck of HJT-16 Kiran that crashed at Visakhapatnam in December 1999.Aircraft attrition section has its root in my IAF Attrition section that has been hosted on my tripod site years back. I had over the years collected attrition info related to the Indian Air Force in quite some detail, and have built upon with some information on other air forces as well.
From the links on the left - you can access the various sections. First and foremost is the Indian Air Force Attrition section post 1947 which has over 900 records.
The Pakistan Air Force section has a list of around 330 accidents since its inception in 1947.
The predecessor of both the Airforces, The Royal Indian Air Force losses are also listed in seperate link , these numbers nearly 300.
Warbirds of India - [ Air Crash Listings of the Indian Air Force ]
The Wreck of HJT-16 Kiran that crashed at Visakhapatnam in December 1999.Aircraft attrition section has its root in my IAF Attrition section that has been hosted on my tripod site years back. I had over the years collected attrition info related to the Indian Air Force in quite some detail, and have built upon with some information on other air forces as well.
From the links on the left - you can access the various sections. First and foremost is the Indian Air Force Attrition section post 1947 which has over 900 records.
The Pakistan Air Force section has a list of around 330 accidents since its inception in 1947.
The predecessor of both the Airforces, The Royal Indian Air Force losses are also listed in seperate link , these numbers nearly 300.
Warbirds of India - [ Air Crash Listings of the Indian Air Force ]
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