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Imran Khan should take Emmanuel Macron head on.

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Emmanuel Macron is trying to fuel the anti Islamic fire in Mainland Europe with his speeches against Islam. Turkish President responded to him but I feel in this battle of diplomacy Imran Khan is better equipped to take French President head on. We all know how France is supporting India its best opportunity to hit France back on diplomatic front because Macron exposed French involvement in Muslim world and affairs. Here are few steps that can be taken.
1. Imran khan is better equipped with English compared to French President and also more famous espically in UK which will negate anti Islamic rally call by French president.
2. Pakistan should actively approach all parties in Europe who are pissed off at French president and you better believe there are whole lots of them.
3. Building strong relationship with Germany which is our natural ally in Europe and this we overlook so much.
4. Exposing French involvement in middle east affairs espically French designs in Lebanon.
France doesn't yield power like US and shouldn't be allowed to interfere in Muslim world affairs.
Lets make coconut macrron out of this Macron
Your thoughts?
 
I have something of that sort, like banning hijab in France. anything else he said against islam ?
 

Do we have a new Hitler in Europe this time in form of Emmanuel Macron but the targeted community is Muslims this time.
 
Behind the scenes the Jewish press controls all these Western countries. Macron recently defended laws that send you to prison for vocal criticism of Jews (under the guise of Holocaust denial laws). The double standard is obvious.

But the bigger picture is that Christian churches are being demolished by the thousands in France, and Macron almost never brings this up or brings up the Notre Dame fire, and neither does the media when they question him or other senior French officials. The reality is that the Jews are keeping the Christians busy hating the Muslims in an effort to destroy both. Many Muslims understand the role of the Jews behind the scenes, but the well-educated Christians of the West are completely oblivious and see Jews only as victims of past and present injustices - a community that must be defended at all costs. Let the Christians die out due to their failure to recognize the real threat.

It's not just Macron of France - the same is true of Trump in the US. After he recently took his senior advisors to St. John's Church near the White House (a church every single US President has visited) and held up the Holy Bible, the media attacked it relentlessly as a photo op and pressured his advisors to disavow the action. But Trump's motive is clear - he wrote in twitter that "WE DO NOT BURN CHURCHES IN AMERICA!" The Jewish media will never ever repeat or discuss this tweet because they are behind the attacks on Churches, and don't want the Christians to find out. Incidentally, the media did not report widely how the rioters attacked St. John's Church several times even after the President went there to forcefully denounce it.

The global picture is that Muslims have a suspicion of Jews and we will not allow them to rule over us in the way they rule over the foolish white Christians in the West. This is why Iran which poses no real threat to the US must be destroyed. If Iran engages in substantial trade and diplomatic relations they will expose the Jews.

Note that half of America's 1% richest are Jewish, meaning non-Jewish whites are underrepresented among the elite. In college admissions, the 1.8% Jewish college applicants outnumber non-Jewish whites (50% of applicants) in every Ivy League school, so admissions are heavily skewed in their favor. At Harvard the student body is 30% Jewish, while non-Jewish whites are less than 20%. The rest are minorities and internationals. The school doesn't report this officially, but some smart people found out through Hillel membership for example. Hillel are campus Jewish cultural centers for students.

In Hollywood and elite media, a shocking 65% of top executives and producers are Jewish, even though on-air talent is mostly non-Jewish (which has to be the case to avoid suspicion). Remember that Jews are only 2% of the population. Among the top 20 ranked US universitied, 16 right now have Jewish presidents. Note that all these universities were founded by and affiliated with a Christian denomination since their founding, and for most of their history. This is no coincidence because it is at the University level that young impressionable people, many from conservative and Christian backgrounds, are indoctrinated into an aggressive form of liberalism when Christianity is thrashed and mocked, and where promiscuity especially among the girls is promoted. It is no wonder that Chritian church attendance is nosediving especially among the young. We are seeing the death of family values, and Christianity in particular, at the hands of the Jews.
 
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While he is at it, Imran should threaten France with nuclear weapons too.

Also Germany is not reliable, Angela greeted Modi on his 70th birthday. But if you can get assurance from Germany that they'll fight France for Pakistan, then why not?

And, of course Imran's play boy image in UK can definitely be useful for rallies. Why delay the good deed?Lets get started.
Man get off this little petty party line mentality. When I meant Imran khan I meant face of Pakistan at this very moment. Isn't he the prime minister of Pakistan? You just can't digest his name thats it. I don't give 2 Fs which party is in power as long as they do their F'ing job. The sooner we get rid of party bazi mentality the better we will get as a nation.
Regarding your little stupid nuclear comment well it futher proves my point about your mentality. I used the word diplomacy or diplomatic front where did I say militarily threaten them? Or just got blacked out as soon as you read "Imran khan"?
Its a discussion I did say your thoughts. Why derail a discussion with your petty remarks?
 

 
I don't think the French would really care. Macron's recent comments should be seen as a balancing act as he is facing a lot of pressure especially as Marine Le pen is gaining ground.

You Pakistanis think Macron is bad, just think what happens when he losses to Le pen.
 
Emmanuel Macron is trying to fuel the anti Islamic fire in Mainland Europe with his speeches against Islam. Turkish President responded to him but I feel in this battle of diplomacy Imran Khan is better equipped to take French President head on. We all know how France is supporting India its best opportunity to hit France back on diplomatic front because Macron exposed French involvement in Muslim world and affairs. Here are few steps that can be taken.
1. Imran khan is better equipped with English compared to French President and also more famous espically in UK which will negate anti Islamic rally call by French president.
2. Pakistan should actively approach all parties in Europe who are pissed off at French president and you better believe there are whole lots of them.
3. Building strong relationship with Germany which is our natural ally in Europe and this we overlook so much.
4. Exposing French involvement in middle east affairs espically French designs in Lebanon.
France doesn't yield power like US and shouldn't be allowed to interfere in Muslim world affairs.
Lets make coconut macrron out of this Macron
Your thoughts?

If they were smart they would save their energy to do the right things for their people.

No matter what any one of them says, in the 21st century, opinions are formed by the reality, not mouthful people.
Behind the scenes the Jewish press controls all these Western countries. Macron recently defended laws that send you to prison for vocal criticism of Jews (under the guise of Holocaust denial laws). The double standard is obvious.

But the bigger picture is that Christian churches are being demolished by the thousands in France, and Macron almost never brings this up or brings up the Notre Dame fire, and neither does the media when they question him or other senior French officials. The reality is that the Jews are keeping the Christians busy hating the Muslims in an effort to destroy both. Many Muslims understand the role of the Jews behind the scenes, but the well-educated Christians of the West are completely oblivious and see Jews only as victims of past and present injustices - a community that must be defended at all costs. Let the Christians die out due to their failure to recognize the real threat.

It's not just Macron of France - the same is true of Trump in the US. After he recently took his senior advisors to St. John's Church near the White House (a church every single US President has visited) and held up the Holy Bible, the media attacked it relentlessly as a photo op and pressured his advisors to disavow the action. But Trump's motive is clear - he wrote in twitter that "WE DO NOT BURN CHURCHES IN AMERICA!" The Jewish media will never ever repeat or discuss this tweet because they are behind the attacks on Churches, and don't want the Christians to find out. Incidentally, the media did not report widely how the rioters attacked St. John's Church several times even after the President went there to forcefully denounce it.

The global picture is that Muslims have a suspicion of Jews and we will not allow them to rule over us in the way they rule over the foolish white Christians in the West. This is why Iran which poses no real threat to the US must be destroyed. If Iran engages in substantial trade and diplomatic relations they will expose the Jews.

Note that half of America's 1% richest are Jewish, meaning non-Jewish whites are underrepresented among the elite. In college admissions, the 1.8% Jewish college applicants outnumber non-Jewish whites (50% of applicants) in every Ivy League school, so admissions are heavily skewed in their favor. At Harvard the student body is 30% Jewish, while non-Jewish whites are less than 20%. The rest are minorities and internationals. The school doesn't report this officially, but some smart people found out through Hillel membership for example. Hillel are campus Jewish cultural centers for students.

In Hollywood and elite media, a shocking 65% of top executives and producers are Jewish, even though on-air talent is mostly non-Jewish (which has to be the case to avoid suspicion). Remember that Jews are only 2% of the population. Among the top 20 ranked US universitied, 16 right now have Jewish presidents. Note that all these universities were founded by and affiliated with a Christian denomination since their founding, and for most of their history. This is no coincidence because it is at the University level that young impressionable people, many from conservative and Christian backgrounds, are indoctrinated into an aggressive form of liberalism when Christianity is thrashed and mocked, and where promiscuity especially among the girls is promoted. It is no wonder that Chritian church attendance is nosediving especially among the young. We are seeing the death of family values, and Christianity in particular, at the hands of the Jews.

The conspiracy out again.
I don't think the French would really care. Macron's recent comments should be seen as a balancing act as he is facing a lot of pressure especially as Marine Le pen is gaining ground.

You Pakistanis think Macron is bad, just think what happens when he losses to Le pen.

Muslims do sure love migrating to France even though it is so 'Hitler-like' to them. Funny people on this forum and world.
 
How French 'secularism' became a front for Islamophobia
February 17, 2020
President Macron has demonstrated once again that in France, inciting hatred or attacking a person's dignity is ok, if the target is Muslim, writes writes Malia Bouattia.

Despite the entire country being at a standstill with yellow vest protests, strikes, and widespread anger towards the Macron government's attacks on welfare, labour standards, and public services, French media and politicians have managed to deflect debate yet again, away from the issues, and on to Islam.
The trigger? A social media video by a 16-year-old. Mila, a student in France, posted a video commenting on having been called a "dirty lesbian", after she was challenged for saying black and Arab women were "not her type".

She continued to respond to criticism by stating "I hate religion. The Quran is a religion of hate." Adding that she's not being racist because she is criticising a religion.
The video sparked heated debate on national television, press and among politicians, especially because of the huge backlash that she received over what some considered to be her blasphemous, hateful and racist comments. Mila has since been re-schooled because of the threats to her life, and her family are under police protection.
The online abuse and violent threats she received are of course deplorable, and their homophobic character make it more so, but the media focus is - as always within French mainstream politics when it comes to anything involving Islam - misplaced.

Firstly, that Mila's social media rant has gripped the nation's attention, shows how little is required for mass outrage to surround Islam and Muslims in France. Even more aggravating, however, is the hypocrisy of Macron and his government.
It is almost hard to believe that while his country is up in arms over mass unemployment, rising living standards, and police repression to name a few, Macron deems it worthy to use his platform to weigh in on the debate.
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Macron has shown that when it comes to freedom of speech, his public protection extends to everyone but Muslims
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Perhaps this is part his attempt to ensure his government can act as guardians of France's secular republic, or more of his transparent attempt to appeal to a far-right base. Either way. Macron has shown that when it comes to freedom of speech, his public protection extends to everyone but Muslims.
In his interview with Le Dauphiné Libéré, Macron framed the furore as one about the right to blaspheme, and the impossibility of comparing Mila's attacks on the Muslim faith, to attacks on her sexuality. He stated that "In this debate we have lost sight of the fact that Mila is an adolescent. We owe her protection at school, in her daily life, in her movements."
Funny how this call for "perspective" was nowhere to be found when a politician was caught on film attacking a mother accompanying her child on a school trip, simply because she was wearing a hijab. The president was not interested in considering the psychological trauma of the Muslim mother's child.
Where is his protection for Muslim students who have to reconsider their education and even future careers because of the restrictions to the face veil and hijab in educational institutions and the public sector?
This entire affair isn't actually about blasphemy at all. The laws in France exist, they have done for a very long time, and they are clear about the rights of people to blaspheme and criticise religion. The concern is over the selectivity of the part of the law which dictates that inciting hatred or attacking one's dignity is illegal.
In addition to being used cynically by an embattled government in an attempt to shift the national debate, the crisis also highlights a further worrying tendency: that of pitting Muslims, women, and LGBTQ people against one another.

It is a narrative which has been central to the last 20 years of the so-called War on Terror, which has positioned Muslims as representing a fundamental danger to women and LGBT rights, whom only the state can protect.
Through this process Muslims are vilified, oppressed communities are divided, and the state's own repressive laws and institutions are whitewashed.

What's more, effective alliances from below are made more difficult given how the process obscures structures of oppression and pits different social movements against one another. It also makes the work of feminists and LGBTQ activists within the Muslim community - as well as that of Muslims within feminist or LGBT spaces - all the more difficult, because they are already seen as fundamentally at odds.

This narrative was, and remains, central to the national debates about the right of Muslim women to wear hijabs, niqabs, or burqas. The attack on Muslim women's right to wear what they want - a central feminist demand - is framed as the state acting in defence of all women. And unfortunately, important sections of the French feminist women have fallen for this argument.

We have something similar in the UK too, where LGBT rights have been weaponised within the government's so-called deradicalisation programmes.
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Fighting homophobia and Islamophobia effectively starts with recognising the structures that reproduce and impose repressive laws
The weaponised use of LGBTQ rights within this framework has again increased tensions and tried to impose fundamental divisions between LGBTQ and Muslim people and groups. While people were right to point out the homophobia of some of the responses, just as in the case of Mila in France, very little was said about the fact that the programme people were protesting was aimed at "deradicalising" young children, and that it was using LGBT rights and identities as a prop to wage war on Muslim communities. Divide and rule at its purest.
In France and elsewhere, the task for progressive forces is clear. Fighting homophobia and Islamophobia effectively starts with recognising the structures that reproduce and impose repressive laws, limited frameworks of identity, and constructed differences on all oppressed communities.

The enemy here is the state. And as long as we fail to unite different liberation struggles across the board - just like the workers, students, and the unemployed have done across France - we will be isolated, picked off one by one, and defeated.

The problem here is not blasphemy. It is reactionary ideas and the institutions that defend them. They must all be brought down.
 
Pakistan has its own problem , no time for engaging in stupid discussions with other.


We need to put the house in order first.
 
Actually a verygood suggestion. This stupid hobit is doing all that to gain voters for the next election but he forgets that he is creating more enemies. Its also true that france has no power left, just a colonial hangover. A country that surrenders its whole territory in days is least expected to scare anyone.
 
Your thoughts?

Does Khan need to do anything? Khan is charismatic and likeable.
Isn't Macron kind of hated in France? I don't like him. Of course I am not French but I figure if I don't like him then he is probably not very likeable.
Usually desperate politicians try to create or pick a scapegoat to focus/deflect anger and build support.
Just let Macron hang himself by his own actions.
 

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