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Manipal, India — One of the principal reasons that the United States so often fails to transform its advantages into lasting geopolitical support is the way specialists there succeed in shifting the direction of policy into trails that increase their own relevance.
An example is the view floated by the United States that there is a "Greater Middle East,” which in some recitals even includes India, and that this amorphous entity needs to be looked at as a single entity. Such a view of disparate situations through a single lens has been responsible for numerous policy errors, many of which have radicalized rather than modernized parts of the globe that are of considerable significance to international interests.

The populations in the Middle East have distinct civil and political trajectories that are different in chemistry from countries such as Pakistan, Afghanistan and India, although the latter three join the Middle East – as indeed do parts of Europe and North America -- in hosting groups that form part of global terror networks.

Since the jihadization of Pakistan's society began under former President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto in the 1970s and continued under successive governments, the country has overtaken locations in the Middle East to become the principal gene pool for jihadists.

The Pakistan army's obsession with India has resulted in the institution training thousands of "resistance fighters" who seamlessly switch targets, and who have set up terrorist training schools of their own across the globe. Although former president of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf convinced his U.S. interlocutors that he was committed to de-jihadizing the Pakistan army, the reality is that today, at least four serving corps commanders subscribe to this militant ideology, although each claims that its use will be specific to India.

Army-backed jihadist networks have become a potent force in the urban areas of Pakistan and it may take a civil war to eliminate them. There is indeed such a war raging within Pakistan, but that is not civil society versus the jihadists, it is intra-jihadi battles. Due to the support given to them by the military, the jihadists are immune from any civilian efforts to dilute their hold.

Indeed, the "civilian" component in Pakistan’s administration is hardly civil with the ministries of defense, foreign affairs and the interior reporting directly to the army chief, as is also the case with Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani. This has left President Asif Ali Zardari with little power except over his household staff – many of whom have by now been "persuaded" to work for military intelligence.

Pakistan represents the "clear and present danger" to international security that the Bush administration has not been able to neutralize and needs to be dealt with in isolation from other theaters.

Lumping Pakistan together with countries in the Middle East blurs the unique situation there, including the country’s China-supplied nuclear and missile capabilities. The partnership of the Pakistan army with the Peoples Liberation Army of China goes beyond routine military exchanges into programs of "asymmetric warfare," as well as links the trade in controlled substances across borders.

Unlike Pakistan, countries in the Middle East, including Iran and Syria, do not have a lethal partner like China. The China-Pakistan partnership has flourished since the 1970s, when sensitive weapons systems began to flow into Pakistan, which has made the neutering of India its only priority.

India is not part of the Greater Middle East, nor does it – as yet – have much in common with Pakistan or Bangladesh, two countries dominated by armies that see jihad as a valid instrument of warfare. However, India’s prospering English-speaking middle class has made it a prospective partner with the West together with Israel, Turkey and Singapore. These Asian countries collectively form what may be termed the "Greater West,” a construct based not on race or ethnic origin but on the values of culture and approach to human issues, including a commitment to democracy and secularism.

Hopefully, the European Union will begin to distance itself from the German-driven effort to install ethnicity as the core of the union – the skin rather than the mind.

If India becomes a part of the Greater Middle East, then it would spell trouble for the world. India needs to transform its society and fend off dangers such as radicalization so that the country can form part of a Greater West, linked by a common commitment to a moderate, inclusive and knowledge-driven society. All of that can then form a firewall to protect India and other states from a conflagration, lit not only by fanaticism but also by the policy errors of those who believe themselves immune from the effects of playing with fire.

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(Professor M.D. Nalapat is vice-chair of the Manipal Advanced Research Group, UNESCO Peace Chair, and professor of geopolitics at Manipal University.He can be reached at mdnalapat1@gmail.com. ©Copyright M.D. Nalapat.)
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Stop the Propaganda against Pakistan army

Pakistan army will unfortunately involved with jihadists during early 80's to save the west.USSR's broke was helpful for the west but these elements were there from all over the Muslim world.Even there native countries were not ready to accept them.Would that we do not help US to break USSR.Because two balancing powers are good for world peace.Now these elements are fighting with Pakistan Gov with help of India.So India is also using these to destabilize Pakistan.
The Pakistan army's obsession with India has resulted in the institution training thousands of "resistance fighters" who seamlessly switch targets, and who have set up terrorist training schools of their own across the globe.

I do not know but being Muslim we believe on ghazawatulhind, so be careful

Thawban - may Allah be pleased with him - that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Two groups of my Ummah Allah has protected from the hellfire: a group that will conquer India and a group that will be with 'Eessa son of Maryam - 'alaihimas- salat was-salaam." (Ahmad, an-Nisa'i, and at-Tabarani.). This is mentioned in Tarikh Al Firishta, Tarikh AL Baghdadi. Nasrudhin Albani says this is a Sahih Hadith.

Na'im son of Hammad , The teacher of Imam Bukhari in al-Fitan reports that Abu Hurayrah - may Allah be pleased with him - said that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) mentioned India and said, "A group of you will conquer India, Allah will open for them [India] until they come with its kings chained - Allah having forgiven their sins - when they return back [from India], they will find son of Maryam in Syria."

While Abu Hurayrah said, "The Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) promised us the conquest of India. If I was to come across that I will spend my soul and wealth. If I am killed then I am among the best of martyrs. And if I return then I am Abu Hurayrah the freed." (Ahmad, an-Nisa'i, and al-Hakim.)

GHAZWA-E-HIND
 
Thawban - may Allah be pleased with him - that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Two groups of my Ummah Allah has protected from the hellfire: a group that will conquer India and a group that will be with 'Eessa son of Maryam - 'alaihimas- salat was-salaam." (Ahmad, an-Nisa'i, and at-Tabarani.). This is mentioned in Tarikh Al Firishta, Tarikh AL Baghdadi. Nasrudhin Albani says this is a Sahih Hadith.

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Stop the Propaganda against Pakistan army

Pakistan army will unfortunately involved with jihadists during early 80's to save the west.USSR's broke was helpful for the west but these elements were there from all over the Muslim world.Even there native countries were not ready to accept them.Would that we do not help US to break USSR.Because two balancing powers are good for world peace.Now these elements are fighting with Pakistan Gov with help of India.So India is also using these to destabilize Pakistan.


I do not know but being Muslim we believe on ghazawatulhind, so be careful

Thawban - may Allah be pleased with him - that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Two groups of my Ummah Allah has protected from the hellfire: a group that will conquer India and a group that will be with 'Eessa son of Maryam - 'alaihimas- salat was-salaam." (Ahmad, an-Nisa'i, and at-Tabarani.). This is mentioned in Tarikh Al Firishta, Tarikh AL Baghdadi. Nasrudhin Albani says this is a Sahih Hadith.

Na'im son of Hammad , The teacher of Imam Bukhari in al-Fitan reports that Abu Hurayrah - may Allah be pleased with him - said that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) mentioned India and said, "A group of you will conquer India, Allah will open for them [India] until they come with its kings chained - Allah having forgiven their sins - when they return back [from India], they will find son of Maryam in Syria."

While Abu Hurayrah said, "The Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) promised us the conquest of India. If I was to come across that I will spend my soul and wealth. If I am killed then I am among the best of martyrs. And if I return then I am Abu Hurayrah the freed." (Ahmad, an-Nisa'i, and al-Hakim.)

GHAZWA-E-HIND

So you are asscoiated with SIMI movement.
 
I am Pakistani, I do not know SIMI aunty....

The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI): Muslim activists targeted by the government


The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) was formed in Aligarh, Uttar Pradesh state, in April 1977. SIMI was formed by a group of Muslim students in Aligarh Muslim University which comes form all parts of India aiming to establish an Islamic state in that country. Its founding president was Dr. Mohammad Ahmadullah Siddiqi, now professor of journalism and public relations at the University of Western Illinois and also a founding member secretary general of the North American Association of Muslim Professionals and Scholars.
SIMI was founded independently as part of his mission to educate and enlighten the Muslim community. SIMI was set up to study Islam like in a study circle and to present Islam through lectures and seminars to students at colleges and schools.

Later SIMI stood for radical social change in India, an approach not appreciated by the leadership of Indian Muslims. In 1981 SIMI activists protested against PLO leader Yasser Arafat’s visit to India, and greeted him with black flags in New Delhi. Young SIMI activists identified Arafat as a western puppet, while the senior Muslim leaders saw Arafat as a champion of the cause of Palestine. Yasser Arafat visited Afghan and support Russian invasion of Afghan. Yasser Arafat the - true friend of Indira Gandhi – then visited New Delhi in 1981, but SIMI alleged that one who supports the Russian invasion against Muslims in Afghan will not be a true Muslim and he can’t understand the suffering of Palestine Muslims.

SIMI believed that, despite its strengths and weaknesses as a youth organization, it could play a catalytic role in the affairs of the Ummah. Opposed to secularism, nationalism and western-style democracy, SIMI advocated the need to oppose oppressive regimes and work for the Ummah. Its slogan was "Allah is our Lord, Qur’an is our constitution, Muhammad is our leader, Jihad is our way and Shahadah is our desire". It strength quickly grew to 400 Ansar – registered members – and about 20,000 supporting members.

SIMI had a separate wing for sisters under the banner "Girls’ Wing" and one for the children (to keep them tuned to the Islamic value-system right from the budding stage of upbringing), under the name "Shaheen Force". SIMI published several magazines in various languages, including al-Harkah in Urdu, Tahreek in Hindi, Iqraa in Gujrati, Rupantar in Bengali, Sedhi Madal in Tamil, Vivekam in Malayalam, Movement in English and Shaheen Times in English for children.

The organization has declared itself to be against Hinduism, western thought and other non-Islamic influences they see as contributing to immorality. SIMI consider themselves to be in a jihad against these influences in India.
SIMI identified the Indian Government and Sangh Parivar as enemies of Islam and India, and exposed India’s failure to address basic human rights issues. In 1986 SIMI organized a national convention with the slogan "liberation of India through Islam", and exposed India’s failure to address the problem of millions of "Untouchables" (Dalits) living under the Brahmins’ hegemony.

Most Muslims did not welcome SIMI’s "Khilafat Campaign", which denounced nationalism and advocated the return of Khilafat to the Muslim world, although SIMI’s campaign was universal, not like other Organisations, rather than pertaining strictly to India in particular. However, SIMI had a clear-cut answer to India’s futile electoral politics, and thus made sure that throughout the 24 years of its catalytic role in the Ummah, its members boycotted elections and also appealed to fellow citizens to abstain from India’s corrupt and unreformable ‘democratic’ politics. SIMI teaches democracy is an anti-Islamic kufrian law and Muslims must reject it and boycott the election process which strengthen the Kufrian government.

While other Islamic organisations watched helplessly as the Sangh Parivar campaigned to demolish the 464-year-old Babri Mosque, SIMI went on the streets to enlighten the masses about the threat to Islam in India. One policy of SIMI was watched particularly closely by the Indian government: its stand on Kashmir. SIMI was the only Muslim organization that dared to declare that Kashmir was not an "integral part" of India and that Muslims need to raise their voices against the violations of human rights in the Valley. Kashmiri leader Syed Shah Jeelani attended a SIMI convention in 1997, which was an opportunity for SIMI activists to discuss issues of the Islamic movement, but which for the Indian authorities was the beginning of "ISI links", ie. links to Pakistan’s intelligence service. Geelani and other Kashmiri Human Right Organisations keep good touch with SIMI, because of SIMI's loud voice in the streets of India.

After the demolision of Babri Masjid, SIMI turned to an active Milli Organisation, rather than a Student Movement. SIMI try to enlighten the Muslim Ummah regarding the threat of Indian Government and Hindu Organisations. SIMI ask Muslim Ummah to act and react against the aggression of Indian Government as well as Hindu Organisations.

After the destruction of the Buddhist statues in Bamiyan by the Taliban, the Sangh Parivar in India burnt copies of the Qur’an in the streets. Muslim organisations tried to condemn this "intellectually", through statements to the press, but SIMI conducted mass-awareness campaigns instead. The violence that broke out in some northern towns were attributed to SIMI’s "virulent" campaign, although the authorities found no reason to find fault with the anti-social elements who burnt the Qur’an in broad daylight, which they justified as natural response to events in Afghanistan. SIMI tried to organise various Muslim Organisations under one umbrella for the protection of Islamic Symbols after the Qur’an burnt incident in New Delhi.

After this incident Government killed 18 Muslims in Kanpur where SIMI called for a demonstration. Like the Babri Masjid incident Quran Burnt incident also create big explosion in India. SIMI ask Muslim Ummah to ready for a Jihad against Indian Government and Hindu Organisations. SIMI re-launched the campaign “Turn to creator, Call to creator, Jihad fie Sabilillah”. SIMI announce “the Liberation of India through Islam”

On September 27, 2001, SIMI was proscribed under the notorious Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA), accused of having links with ISI and other "terrorist" organisations worldwide, and of attempting to "destabilize the nation". SIMI was alleged as the outfit of Al Qaeda in India and banned after 9/11. Also Indian authorities alleged SIMI have its relation with Lashka-e-Toiba (LeT), Jaish-e-Muhammad (Jem), Hizbul Mujahidien (Hizb) and Harkatul Ansar (HuA).
SIMI is also accused of receiving funds from abroad, especially from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. This is a patently absurd charge against a committed organization that in its 24 years of activism had a strict policy against receiving funds from abroad, especially from Saudi Arabia, the allie of USA, which SIMI rightly believed would be the first step on the road to subservience, and the eventual dilution of its revolutionary appeal. Interestingly, after the ban, Indian intelligence agencies also found it convenient to accuse SIMI of working with Pakistan-based "terrorist outfits" to sabotage "peace in India".

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SIMI’s expressed goal is to convert India into Dar al-Islam, and the group has declared jihad against the secular Indian state. SIMI seeks inspiration from the views of Ibn Taimiya, Ibn Al Qayyim, Shah Waliyullahi Dehlawi, Shaheed Sayed Ahmed, Shaheed Shah Ismail, Haji Shariatullah, Shaheed Sayed Qutub, Shaheed Abdullah Azzam, Shaheed Abdel Salam Farj, Maududi and Deobandi Ulema. According to SIMI, Islam is not just a religion but an ideology, the Quran is the only basis for governing human life, and it is the duty of every Muslim to propagate Islam and wage jihad to establish an Islamic state. SIMI is against not only the Western culture and modernization that Qutub and Maududi critiqued at length, but also the prevalent Hindu Brahmanical culture and idol worship. In other words, the mere existence of other faiths and beliefs is unacceptable, and religious tolerance amounts to diluting Islam’s purity. Jihad, the Umma, and the Caliphate are core concepts in the ideology of SIMI, which stridently asserts Khilafat view.
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SIMI held a conference in 1999 under the slogan “Allah’s Party Shall Indeed Prevail” (Inna Hizballahi humul ghaliboon). The conference logo depicted the Quran with the superimposed image of a hand holding a gun against a globe. The conference heard an address in Arabic by Shaykh Yasin, which was primarily an exhortation to jihad. Conference participants were issued certificates declaring the “Quran is our constitution; Jihad is our path; and Martyrdom is our desire.”
SIMI launched an All India Campaign "Tawhid v/s Shirk" on the death annversary of Babri Masjid. Also SIMI launched a Babri Masjid campaign "Waiting for Ghaznawi" were SIMI ask Muslm ummah to brought up the qualities of Mehmud Ghazni, the idol destroyer of Somanath Temple, to destroy the idols were Hindus kept in Masjid Babri and to purify the land from Kufr and Shirk. Muslim leaders dislike these campaigns, tells this will crush the Secular concept of India.
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SIMI targets Muslim youth between the ages of fifteen and thirty for membership. SIMI working as a nursery to train the Muslim Umma and contribute them to various Organisations to lead the Community.
Several former members of SIMI have moved to different parts of India and set up such local radical Islamist groups as the National Democratic Front (NDF) and the Islamic Youth Center (IYC), based in the southern state of Kerala; Darsgah Jihado-Shahadat (School for Jihad and Martyrdom), based in Andhra Pradesh; and the Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam (Muslim National Movement—TMMK) in Tamil Nadu. The members of SIMI is leading Organisations like All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB), Movement for the Protection of Islamic Symbols (TTSI), Milli Council, Jamat-e-Islami (JIH) etc.
SIMI and its associated groups publish several magazines in various Indian languages, including Vivekam in Malayalam, Sedhi Madal in Tamil, Rupantar in Bengali, Iqraa in Gujarati, Tahreek in Hindi, Al Harkah in Urdu and the Shaheen Times in English and Urdu.
In its 2000 annual report, the year before it was banned, SIMI explained its ideological agenda:
"It is the responsibility of this ‘last community’, the ‘best community’, the ‘middle community’, to rise up and face the challenges that surround it, to revive Deen, to lead and guide not only the Islamic world, but all of humanity along the ‘Straight Path’ and rescue it from the clutches of Satanic power. It is the demand of the time that Muslim youth should struggle for the superiority and establishment of Deen and revival of Islam in the light of Holy Quran and Sunnah…The end of the Khilafah led to our disintegration into different countries on the basis of nationalism, language and other sectarian prejudices. Naturally therefore, our main responsibility is to strive in those areas, which are directly related to the reinstating of Khilafah. It is essential to emphasize that no political party or organization can bring about a solid and constructive change through secularism in the light of their erratic ideologies. The only way to bring about real change through …establishing an Islamic system of life.”
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SIMI was alleged for the 7/11 train bombings in Bombay and he twin blast which shocked Delhi and Bombay. Government arrested widely large number of SIMI activist all around India. President of SIMI, Dr. Shahid Badr Falahi was arrested and sentenced to jail for four years. Moulana Ashraf Jafri and Moulana Yaseen Patel Falahi sentenced to imprison for fourteen years. Saleem Sajid, Finance Secretary, Dr. Hatif Iqbal, Office Sectretary, Shamimul Islam, Saif Nachan were arrested various times and jailed. Moulana Numan Badr arrested twice and jailed. Saquib Nachan, Former Secretary General was jailed for Fourteen years, and after his freedom second time government arrested him under Terrorist law and jailed since 2001. Government arrested 123 SIMI activists from Gujarat before Gujarat Riot and jailed them for three years inside Gujarat. Dr. Abdul Mubin was arrested from Aligarh University Campus. Moulana Naseerudhin was arrested by Gujarat Police on the allegation of Minister Murder case.

Government widely targets SIMI and its members. They know that SIMI is the champion of Islam and the ideology which enlightened by SIMI will crush the Indian kufrian Government.

Government killed Mujahid Shaheed in an encounter at Hyderabad. Azzam Ghori Shaheed was killed by Indian invaded troops in Karim Nagar, Hyderabad. Abubacker Master Shaheed was killed by Hindu Organisations in Calicut. Hafeed and Sajid were martyred in Agra. Seven of its members got martyred by Indian troops in Kashmir.

SIMI is moving forward on the blood of Shuhadas. But, Indian Muslims are still under the slavery of Indian Kufrian Government and Hindu Terrorist Organisations.
Who will help them?
GHAZWATUL HIND



Sound something familiar to what you where talking about. hummm!!!
 
I do not know but being Muslim we believe on ghazawatulhind, so be careful

Being Muslim you believe in "ghazawatulhind", and so others should be careful?

Can you tell us, if being Muslim, you believe in freedom of religion? Can you tell us, if being Muslim, you believe that Muslims who leave Islam should be slaughtered? Do you believe people should be slaughtered for blasphemy?

Can you tell us if your "Ghazis" who die fighting in your so-called "Ghazwa-tul-Hind" will enjoy 72 virgins in heaven?

If your answer is yes, then there are many Muslims who will declare that you are a madman whose absence will make the earth a more civilized place.

Can you tell us why the so-called "Ghazis" in Kashmir are cutting of ears and noses of innocent Muslim women?
 
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"ghazawatulhind", and so others should be careful?

I am believer of Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H So what ever Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H said it will happened.You and me can not stop it.

Can you tell us if your "Ghazis" who die fighting in your so-called "Ghazwa-tul-Hind" will enjoy 72 virgins in heaven?

There is no "Ghazwa-tul-Hind" yet,so any body or any organization who is just imagining it, and killing innocent people in India or attacking strategic location inside India is totally wrong.There are ,rules for jihad, you will find those in further reading of my reply
I am not believer of undeclared war.
Specially Jihad is only order by Mufti Azam or Head of the State, no body or no organization can start it.Whereas "Ghazwa-tul-Hind" can be define only by some Mufti Azam.But i am sure yet it is not started.
So i am against these so called Ghazis.Whores will be not giving by killing innocents or killing the people on personal or organizational agenda.

Can you tell us, if being Muslim, you believe in freedom of religion? Can you tell us, if being Muslim, you believe that Muslims who leave Islam should be slaughtered? Do you believe people should be slaughtered for blasphemy?

I do not know much about on this topic,But what is need to leave the Islam,What is need to blasphemy.
But i will ask you one thing and this is not about religion.

Let us assume Mr xyz, Can he bear insult of his father in front of him
He will be definitely become emotional and act as per his emotional level.Different people have different emotions so even 1% will kill the person (also depend on the situation,he has some weapon and lot of other things),some will beat, some will only say bad to insulter' father.
Same is the case for blasphemy,Different Muslims have different emotions so they will do according to their emotional level in general.Even other religion followers can not tolerate insult of their religion.
If you are Muslim try to insult the Hindus religion then u will get the answer

Now comes to leaving of Islam,I will give you another example

Islam is universal brotherhood for Muslims people.If some one accept Islam or he is born Muslim then he is the part of the community even like the member of the family.
Suppose that there is family xyz and one of the member change the family by saying this family is wrong, then what other family member will say about him/her.

Similarly in case of the Islam.People consider insult of the their religion if someone change the family.

If your answer is yes, then there are many Muslims who will declare that you are a madman whose absence will make the earth a more civilized place.

So i am hoped that my answers will make you to say,that i am not mad,I am the believer of the religion of the peace , he Islam
in which there is the rule that if you have killed one innocent person then you have killed the whole humanity not one person.

Even there are rules Jihad
Do not kill women,children,old people and those who are unwilling to fight with you.
Do not burn the property of the enemy.Do not cut the trees,Do not destroys the green fields.
Be Polite with the POWs.

What you need,
Islam is the way of life.

Can you tell us why the so-called "Ghazis" in Kashmir are cutting of ears and noses of innocent Muslim women?
How i can believe on it,that it is done by militants,This could be the cheap tactics used by Indian Army to spread hatred against the mujaheddin.
Search on the google what militants (supported by RAW in N.W.F.O) are doing with the captured Pak army men.You will be cleared.This is totally wrong.Even idiot Usama bin nadan's ugly AlQuida is doing the same thing.So this against the Islam.

and
One last thing Kashmir is the part of the Pakistan.This is the disputed area,It is the majority Muslim state whose Hindu raja unified it with the India against the will of the people of Kashmir.Do not forget Monabo and Hyderabad State ruler decision.Because i know you will try to deviate from this case and will declare it "Attot Ang".See the history Why India and Pakistan were came into being,in simple a Muslim majority areas for Pakistan and others for India.


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India is neither part of Greater Middle East nor any Greater West.

We are a distinct and unique civilization. One that was the very best is the world for a very long time and will rise again as Jagat Guru, one that will teach the world the concept of "Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam" (The world is a family).
 
If I'm not wrong, Muslims ruled over India for about a 1000 years. Doesn't that fulfil the Ghazwa-e-Hind prediction?
 
If I'm not wrong, Muslims ruled over India for about a 1000 years. Doesn't that fulfil the Ghazwa-e-Hind prediction?

You are wrong. Muslims controlled significant parts of India (not all of India ever) for about 600 years. The British did so for about 150 years.

Finally the time was up for the tyrants and alien invaders.
 

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