"India has become slave of US, begging for protection from China" says Congress leader Manishankar Aiyar at Indo-Russian event

[SuvarnaTeja]

Nehru did it in 1962 because he did not have a choice then. Modi will do the same because he also does not have a choice now.

China is many times more powerful than India, both militarily and economically.

The main difference is that Nehru/Congress did it unwilling as India badly needed food aid from the US. Note that Nehru was pro-Soviet not Pro-US but he still helped the US against China to get food grains in return. On the other hand Modi/BJP is doing it willingly as they are pro-US. India has a choice now to remain non -aligned by burying the hatchet with China by agreeing to Chinese proposal on LAC.

Congress are the one who will sell there own provided the rate quoted is good.. Dont have problem if this nonsense criticize BJP or Modi, instead he chose to ruin country reputation.

There is no difference. All politicians are for sale and are are working for their foreign pay masters and not for the good of Indian citizens.

 

[beijingwalker]

This documentary about 1962 war was made by neither China nor India, we can see who started it, who really wanted to fight that war and who didn't, but was forced to.

 

[Wood]

The main difference is that Nehru/Congress did it unwilling as India badly needed food aid from the US. Note that Nehru was pro-Soviet not Pro-US but he still helped the US against China to get food grains in return. On the other hand Modi/BJP is doing it willingly as they are pro-US. India has a choice now to remain non -aligned by burying the hatchet with China by agreeing to Chinese proposal on LAC.

I'm not talking about food grain request. Nehru asked US for a direct military assistance during the 1962 war. Nehru was not thrilled to do it, he did it unwillingly.

Modi is also looking for a military alliance with US. Although India would like to call it an alliance, in reality India once again wants US to help defend India's border with China. Once again, Modi would like to be able to fight China without American assistance. But this is not possible without American military technology. So willingly or otherwise, Modi depends on US as his predecessors did.

The only real difference between then and now is that this time India will actually be able to monetarily and diplomatically pay for American military assistance. Last time (with Nehru), India was asking for free help!

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

This documentary about 1962 war was made by neither China nor India, we can see who started it, who really wanted to fight that war and who didn't, but was forced to.

Everyone knows what happened. US wanted India to fight China if India wanted food aid. India fought with China and lost the war but we did get food aid from the US as promised.

I'm not asking about food grain request. Nehru asked US for a direct military assistance during the 1962 war. Nehru was not thrilled to do it, he did it unwillingly.

Modi is also looking for a military alliance with US. Although India would like to call it an alliance, in reality India once again wants US to help defend India's border with China. Once again, Modi would like to be able to fight China without American assistance. But this is not possible without American military technology. So willingly or otherwise, Modi depends on US as his predecessors did.

The only real difference between then and now is that this time India will actually be able to monetarily and diplomatically pay for American military assistance. Last time (with Nehru), India was asking for free help!

India will neither get assistance or technology from the US to fight the Chinese. US just wants India to fight the Chinese. The outcome of the war is least important. US does not care If India goes back to stone age or disintegrates after the war with China, What is important for the US is that India puts back Chinese development by at least 20 years so that US could continue be the leader in the 21st century.

 

[waz]

One small problem the US has long lost its title of reliable ally. History is full of their ‘partners’ falling by the roadside never to see light again e.g. S.Vietnam, Afghan government, Kurdish parties etc.

 

[GumNaam]

"India has become slave of US, begging for protection from China" says Congress leader Manishankar Aiyar at Indo-Russian event

File photo of Congress leader Manishankar Aiyar.(HT Photo)
Published on Nov 24, 2021 07:57 AM IST

Congress leader Manishankar Aiyar attacked the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)-led central government by saying that India has become a slave of the United States of America since 2014. He was speaking during an Indo-Russia friendship society on Tuesday.

"In the last seven years, we've seen that there is no talk of non-alignment and peace. We behave like we are slaves of Americans, begging for protection from China," said Aiyar.

"Our relation with Russia suffered a massive blow after 2014," he added. Aiyar further said the Congress is not in favour of whatever policy decisions the current dispensation is taking.

The Congress leader made an appeal to the government to mend ties with Russia.

"Russia (erstwhile USSR) was India's closest ally when Indira Gandhi was the Prime Minister. In fact, Indira became a Russia name. Many girls have been named after her, especially in Uzbekistan," said Aiyar.

He carried forward the attacks lodged by the Congress party, especially its former president Rahul Gandhi, by accusing the Centre of ceding Indian territory to China during the ongoing standoff in Ladakh. The Centre has denied these allegations and many leaders of the ruling BJP have launched counter-attacks, saying that "India knows how to give befitting reply to China, Pakistan or anti-national elements”.

Aiyar's comments come weeks before Russian President Vladimir Putin arrives in India. He shares a very close relationship with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and is making an exception during the Covid-19 time to visit a foreign country. Ahead of Putin's visit on December 6, the defence ministry has cleared over ₹5,000 crore deal with Russia to manufacture 7.5 lakh AK-203 assault rifles in Uttar Pradesh's Amethi.

India has also received Russia-made two S-400 air defence system, which will be deployed on north and east borders of India beginning 2022 to balance the tactical disadvantage faced by the military after Chinese military's surprise May 2020 transgressions on 1,597-km Ladakh Line of Control (LAC).

India has been engaged in a border standoff with China in Ladakh since last year. The armies of both the countries engaged in a skirmish in June 2020 in which India lost 20 soldiers and the PLA too suffered an unknown number of casualties.

A number of talks between the two countries have taken place to end the standoff, but tension still continues in some areas along the LAC.

'India has become slave of US', says Manishankar Aiyar at Indo-Russian event

Manishankar Aiyar's comments come weeks before Russian President Vladimir Putin arrives in India. Ahead of Putin's visit on December 6, the defence ministry has cleared over ₹5,000 crore deal with Russia to manufacture 7.5 lakh AK-203 assault rifles in Uttar Pradesh's Amethi.

www.hindustantimes.com

nice try kangroos party...discussions of strategic alliance with that ol pervert uncle sam were started during the congress regime...

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

nice try kangroos party...discussions of strategic alliance with that ol pervert uncle sam were started during the congress regime...

No Indo-US alliance talks were started by BJP. BJP is on the payroll of CIA.

nice try kangroos party...discussions of strategic alliance with that ol pervert uncle sam were started during the congress regime...

‘Jaswant-Talbatt Talk’ and India-US strategic engagement: A Legacy of Jaswant Singh, the foreign minister at the crucial juncture of India’s international engagement

‘Jaswant-Talbatt Talk’ and India-US strategic engagement: A Legacy of Jaswant Singh, the foreign minister at the crucial juncture of India’s international engagement

Jaswant Singh, the former Union minister of India who held three important portfolios – foreign minister, defense minister, and Finance Minister of India under the Atal Bihari Vajpayee Government, died at the age of 82....

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Nehru did it in 1962 because he did not have a choice then. Modi will do the same because he also does not have a choice now.

China is many times more powerful than India, both militarily and economically.

Not choice, but evolution of India's geopolitical outlook from self-imposed isolation(NAM)

During Non-aligned movement India got 1962 and 1965

During Soviet alignment era India got 1971 and Sikkim

Regardless of China ceasing to exist tomorrow Indo-US ties will continue given the economic significance and US contributions to India's integration globally examples- NSG waiver and MCTR membership

Indo-US ties began improving in 1991 long before China's rise and they will continue to exist long after Chinese downfall

To give some context in the end of 1990s US bombed Chinese embassy with impunity and no retaliation from China
United States bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade

and also forced to them send back American pilot who were engaged in Intelligence collection in Chinese Airspace
Hainan Island incident

 

[-=virus=-]

They're still stuck in the old superpower paradigm, the congressis..

pragmatism seems beyond them almost

there are no two exclusive camps in the world anymore, where ya been there past 30 years, you morons ? LOL

I'd now like to request a congress apologist to come forth and explain the wisdom behind such an idea as antagonizing the USA, spl in light of current and recent events..

this loser congressi attitude is exactly what cost raul ghandy his Amethi constituency

BJP ko marney ke chakkar mein apney ko kitna giraogai ? .. all just to spite your face ?

they're just terrible at politics, raul ghandy should be a facebook activist, not the face of the Indian opposition in parliament.

 

[Wood]

Not choice, but evolution of India's geopolitical outlook from self-imposed isolation(NAM)

During Non-aligned movement India got 1962 and 1965

During Soviet alignment era India got 1971 and Sikkim

Regardless of China ceasing to exist tomorrow Indo-US ties will continue given the economic significance and US contributions to India's integration globally examples- NSG waiver and MCTR membership

Indo-US ties began improving in 1991 long before China's rise and they will continue to exist long after they are gone

To give some context in the end of 1990s US bombed Chinese embassy with impunity and no retaliation from China
United States bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade

and also forced to them send back American pilot who were engaged in Intelligence collection in Chinese Airspace
Hainan Island incident

If China was not a threat for US supremacy, I doubt US will have the same motivation to help India's integration with the western world order.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

If China was not a threat for US supremacy, I doubt US will have the same motivation to help India's integration with the western world order.

Valid point, though its not just China but Russia as well.

I remember reading a cable where American diplomat overtly mentioned of taking advantage of Admiral Gorshkov delay by American defense contractors

USA has been trying for a while to cut down Russia's influence and its economy

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

First instance of US-Sino Conflict conflict was during colonial era where USA turned China into its colonial vassal


During this era Indian freedom fighters were against USA given Chinese nationalists like Sun Yet San were sympathetic to Indian freedom fighters

All the so called freedom fighters of India belonging to Congress, Indian Muslim League and Hindu Mahasabha were all on the payroll of the British.

Ambedkar's father served in the British Military.

British used Indian soldiers to rule Chinese and to force Chinese buy and consume the opium from the British.

If China was not a threat for US supremacy, I doubt US will have the same motivation to help India's integration with the western world order.

Let's be clear. US will neither help India nor fight for India. US wants India to fight China so that both get destroyed. Since Modi/BJP are on the US payroll they will gladly do it. The outcome of the Sino-Indo war will be

US Wins
BJP Wins
Indians lose
CCP and Chinese people lose

 

[Wood]

India will neither get assistance or technology from the US to fight the Chinese. US just wants India to fight the Chinese. The outcome of the war is least important. US does not care If India goes back to stone age or disintegrates after the war with China, What is important for the US is that India puts back Chinese development by at least 20 years so that US could continue be the leader in the 21st century.

India will (have to) fight China regardless of American persuasions. If America gets to benefit because of it, that is just a happenstance as far as India is concerned.

America will help India as much as it can without compromising its own interest. India will be grateful for the mutual alignment of interests

 

[Azadkashmir]

Russia is a friend of China and is unwilling to help India to defend against China. So India has no other option but to beg the US for help.


What he said is bitter truth.

cia bit che s like i said in my other tread.

 

[Wood]

One small problem the US has long lost its title of reliable ally. History is full of their ‘partners’ falling by the roadside never to see light again e.g. S.Vietnam, Afghan government, Kurdish parties etc.

Alliances are based on mutual interests. They will crumble when national interests diverge.

Waiting and hoping for ever reliable allies will only lead to disappointments.