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India,Japan,Korea discuss south china sea

But we can give a good kiss to Dragon :haha: , even your govt wants good relations with India and requested us to stand on border issue . What can i say ? Vietnam , a very weak country defeated you after 1970's too . Just think what a weak country can do to you . Being a rising economy you should be in control , else all your work will become ash .

haha,do some study and read facts and figure of that shor war,it was a punitive expedition like that one happened in 1962lasted for 2 weeks,that's our style,and during the 2 weeks we destroyed whole north Vietnam and burned down all their viliages,inflicted tremendous damage to their 6 provinces,dismentle whatever useful equipments in norht Vietnam and brought them back to China,their north economy was completely paralyzed,the country suffered much more damage than you did in 1962,and we killed much more their soldiers and some colateral damage to thousands of their civilians,we captured 10 times more their POWs than they had ours,and you know what,how can't even touch a grass on our side of the border.the whole north Vietnam was buring,and our side of the border,life was nice and peacful like everyday,haha.

and in 1974 we sank all those Vietnamese ships and got back our Paracel islands from them,and in 1988 in Spratly we slaughter every single Vietnamese sailor and sent them a one way trip to the bottom of the sea.
 
haha,do some study and read facts and figure of that shor war,it was a punitive expedition like that one happened in 1962lasted for 2 weeks,that's our style,and during the 2 weeks we destroyed whole north Vietnam and burned down all their viliages,inflicted tremendous damage to their 6 provinces,dismentle whatever useful equipments in norht Vietnam and brought them back to China,their north economy was completely paralyzed,the country suffered much more damage than you did in 1962,and we killed much more their soldiers and some colateral damage to thousands of their civilians,we captured 10 times more their POWs than they had ours,and you know what,how can't even touch a grass on our side of the border.the whole north Vietnam was buring,and our side of the border,life was nice and peacful like everyday,haha.

and in 1974 we sank all those Vietnamese ships and got back our Paracel islands from them,and in 1988 in Spratly we slaughter every single Vietnamese sailor and sent them a one way trip to the bottom of the sea.
I would request any Vietnamese brother to enlighten you as they can come up with exact stats , didnt see Chinese grave photos that tried to mess with Vietnam ?You sacrificed 500K soldiers in Korean war :hitwall: You were spanked by Vietnam in 1979 :P
 
haha,do some study and read facts and figure of that shor war,it was a punitive expedition like that one happened in 1962lasted for 2 weeks,that's our style,and during the 2 weeks we destroyed whole north Vietnam and burned down all their viliages,inflicted tremendous damage to their 6 provinces,dismentle whatever useful equipments in norht Vietnam and brought them back to China,their north economy was completely paralyzed,the country suffered much more damage than you did in 1962,and we killed much more their soldiers and some colateral damage to thousands of their civilians,we captured 10 times more their POWs than they had ours,and you know what,how can't even touch a grass on our side of the border.the whole north Vietnam was buring,and our side of the border,life was nice and peacful like everyday,haha.

and in 1974 we sank all those Vietnamese ships and got back our Paracel islands from them,and in 1988 in Spratly we slaughter every single Vietnamese sailor and sent them a one way trip to the bottom of the sea.

This explains why we hate you chinese, then dont cry on that. OK?
 
Wikipedia,neither from China nor Vietnam

Sino-Vietnamese War
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Chinese invaded Northern Vietnam and captured some of the northernmost cities in Vietnam. On March 6 China declared that the gate to Hanoi was open and that their punitive mission had been achieved and retreated back to China. Both China and Vietnam claimed victory in the last of the Indochina Wars of the twentieth century; as Vietnamese troops remained in Cambodia until 1989 it can be said that the PRC failed to achieve the goal of dissuading Vietnam from involvement in Cambodia. China achieved its strategic objective of reducing the offensive capability of Vietnam along the Sino-Vietnam border by implementing a scorched earth policy. China also achieved another strategic objective of demonstrating to its Cold War foe, the Soviet Union, that they were unable to protect their Vietnamese ally. As many as 1.5 million Chinese troops were stationed along China's borders with the USSR at the time and were prepared for a full-scale war.

Bruce Elleman "one of the primary diplomatic goals behind China's attack was to expose Soviet assurances of military support to Vietnam as a fraud. Seen in this light, Beijing's policy was actually a diplomatic success, since Moscow did not actively intervene, thus showing the practical limitations of the Soviet-Vietnamese military pact.... China achieved a strategic victory by minimizing the future possibility of a two-front war against the USSR and Vietnam."

wikipedia

Aftermath

To reduce Vietnam's military capability against China, the Chinese implemented a "scorched-earth policy" while returning to China, causing extensive damage to the Vietnamese countryside and infrastructure.[31] Although Vietnam continued to occupy Cambodia, China successfully mobilized international opposition to the occupation, rallying such leaders as Cambodia's deposed king Norodom Sihanouk, Cambodian anticommunist leader Son Sann, and high-ranking members of the Khmer Rouge to deny the pro-Vietnam regime in Cambodia diplomatic recognition beyond the Soviet bloc. China improved relations with ASEAN by promising protection to Thailand and Singapore against "Vietnamese aggression". In contrast, Vietnam's decreasing prestige in the region led it to be more dependent on the Soviet Union, to which it leased a naval base at Cam Ranh Bay.[32]

Border skirmishes continued throughout the 1980s, including a significant skirmish in April 1984.

Armed conflict only ended in 1989 after the Vietnamese agreed to fully withdraw from Cambodia.

This conflict also saw the first use of the Type 81 assault rifle by the Chinese and a naval battle over the Spratly Islands in 1988. In 1999 after many years of negotiations, China and Vietnam signed a border pact, though the line of demarcation remained secret.[33] There was a very slight adjustment of the land border, resulting in land being given up to China, which caused the widespread complaints within Vietnam.

casualties

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chinese casualties

To this day, both sides of the conflict describe themselves as the
victor. The number of casualties is disputed, with some Western sources
putting PLA casualties at more than 20,000 throughout the war. Chinese democracy activist Wei Jingsheng told
western media in 1980 the Chinese troops had suffered 9,000 deaths and more than 10,000 wounded during the war,[25] but a recent leak showed that the PLA had 6,954 killed and 14,800 wounded,and 238 Prisoners of War in the course of the war.


Vietnamese casualties

There are no independently verifiable details of Vietnamese
casualties
; like their counterparts in the Chinese government, the
Vietnamese government has never announced any information on its actual
military casualties. The Nhan Dan newspaper
the Central Organ of the Communist Party of Vietnam claimed that
Vietnam suffered more than 10,000 civilian deaths during the Chinese
invasion[27] and earlier on May 17, 1979, reported statistics on heavy losses of industry and agriculture properties.[27]

Vietnamese armed personnel:

Regular forces (from Chinese sources): 100,100 killed in total, Wounded: more than 10,000. 2210 Prisoners of War.[5][28] Province Militia and divisions of the Public Security Army: unknown

the causality estimated: 70,000[29]

On March 6, China declared that the gate to Hanoi was open and that their punitive mission had been achieved. On the way back to the Chinese border, the PLA destroyed all local infrastructure and housing and looted all useful equipment and resources (including livestock), completely paralyzing the economy of northern Vietnam.[5] The PLA crossed the border back into China on March 16. While China claimed to have crushed the Vietnamese resistance, Vietnam claimed that China had mostly only fought against border militias. This allowed both sides to claim military victory, as both sides claimed to have taught their opponent a lesson.[24]

This explains why we hate you chinese, then dont cry on that. OK?

welcome to hating us,we don't like you anyway,no love lost.
 
Wikipedia,neither from China nor Vietnam





welcome to hating us,we don't like you anyway,no love lost.

Ya in that article chinese sources claiming 100000 deaths :P
Height of comedy... From when time, the world started to believe chinese media and its sources?
They will make people believe, what the govt wanted them to believe!! If u question them, citizens are as good as death....
Come p with a crediblee sources
 
Ya in that article chinese sources claiming 100000 deaths :P
Height of comedy... From when time, the world started to believe chinese media and its sources?
They will make people believe, what the govt wanted them to believe!! If u question them, citizens are as good as death....
Come p with a crediblee sources

ha,that's why I didnt bold 100,000 and only bolded third party figure 70,000.but still much much more than Chinese casualties.after all the war was fougth in Vietnam,not China.

as for POWs,that is very reliable cause we exchanged our POWs,we released these many to them,but they had very few to give us back.
 
It is a very good measure that the GOI is taking; partnering with peaceful and business minded countries that either want to retain their status like Korea and Japan while strengthening ties with emerging countries like Vietnam. SCS being a big area and a dense set of countries having their share, it is essential that a dialog and partnership is made whereby no single country gets to bully others and snatch territories that rightfully belong to each of the respective nations. Even if this means limited use of harsh diplomacy or even retaliatory force.

This was important in the 90s itself but oh well, better late than never.
 
I hope India, Japan and Korea respect the Nine Dash claim in West Philippine Sea. There are ancient documents and maps to prove it since 2001 BC.

IxUQ6.jpg
 
I hope India, Japan and Korea respect the Nine Dash claim in West Philippine Sea. There are ancient documents and maps to prove it since 2001 BC.

IxUQ6.jpg

Hello there,
why are you drawing fake maps in paint software. Everybody in PDF knows Chinese people claim the nine dotted line going to the beaches of vietnam, philiphines, malaysia and brunei.
I am sure you are not philipino guy but some false flagger.
 
Lets invite fighter Viets on round table for discussion. They were been there and done that (Read 1979 spanking). They know how to tackle Chinese for sure

haha,they can surely tell you how to get ready to be spanked and how to live under Chinese rule for 1000 years.
 
Hello there,
why are you drawing fake maps in paint software. Everybody in PDF knows Chinese people claim the nine dotted line going to the beaches of vietnam, philiphines, malaysia and brunei.
I am sure you are not philipino guy but some false flagger.

Friend, maybe you have misunderstanding about opinion of Kalayaan. He wanted to say that anyone can draw a dotted line like Chinese did.
The dotted line drawn arbitrarily, it cannot be the basis for china's claims in the East Sea (West Philippine Sea).
 
Lets invite fighter Viets on round table for discussion. They were been there and done that (Read 1979 spanking). They know how to tackle Chinese for sure
Yes, the beijingwalker intentionally forgotten 1979 spanking. In such cases, I will let him view a photo in the link below and read the notes below the photo, which posted on the Time:

China-Vietnam Border War, 30 Years Later - Photo Essays - TIME

And an article by a Chinese, "What the PLA Learned in Vietnam, 1979" by Xiaobing Li:
Some Chinese soldiers called it a “painful, little war.” Vietnamese troops avoided battle and instead harassed PLA forces. Some Chinese officers described it as a “ghost war,” since the enemy troops were almost invisible, or a “shadow war,” since it seemed they were fighting against their own shadows. The Vietnamese troops employed the same tactics, made the same moves, and used the same weapons as the Chinese. They knew exactly what the Chinese were trying to do. They exploited almost every problem and weakness the Chinese had. The Chinese troops had to fight their own problems first before they could fight the Vietnamese. Deng’s border war taught the PLA a hard lesson….

Many of the PLA’s commanding officers were shocked by the poor discipline, low morale, combat ineffectiveness, and high casualties in the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War. During the nineteen days of the first two phases, the PLA suffered 26,000 casualties, about 1,350 per day
....

haha,they can surely tell you how to get ready to be spanked and how to live under Chinese rule for 1000 years.

We've done like this:

In Lý-Trần Dynasty era, the problems of construction the naval base, set up the naval forces were in place. Specially, the Van Don port has an important role to protect the northeast sea of Vietnam. In 1077, the Vietnamese Navy fought the Battle of Cầu River against the Chinese Song Dynasty forces. This was the final battle China's Song Dynasty would fight on Vietnamese land or waters. The battle lasted for several months, and ended with the victory of the Vietnamese Navy and the loss of many Song's (Chinese) sailors. This victory demonstrated the successful tactics of war and active defense of the famous Admiral Lý Thường Kiệt who faced a naval force several times larger than his own.[2] The Song Dynasty lost a total of 80,000 soldiers/sailors and 5,19 million ounces of gold, including all costs of the war.[3]
The largest battles (officially recorded in history) were three naval battles (all three are called Battle of Bạch Đằng): Ngô Quyền against the Chinese Southern Han forces in 938 (killed over 100,000 and captured a thousands Chinese sailors, killed Chinese Prince Liu Hongcao);[4] Lê Hoàn against Song Dynasty in 981; and Trần Quốc Tuấn against Yuan Dynasty (Mongol) in 1288 (killed over 80,000 Yuan Mongol sailors, destroyed more than 400 Yuan ships, killed Sogetu, and captured Yuan Admiral Omar).[5]
One of the greatest victories in Vietnamese Naval history was the Battle of Rạch Gầm-Xoài Mút in Tay Son dynasty, during which Nguyễn Huệ (Emperor Quang Trung) defeated the Siamese (Thai) naval force. The battle occurred in present-day Tiền Giang Province on January 19, 1785. Nguyễn Huệ's forces completely destroyed over 50,000 Siamese sailors and 300 warships.[6]

And:
Battle of Hanoi
....
 
All ASEAN Countries work together against China???

I just could not believe countries like Indonesia, Myammar, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Bangladash, Sri Lanka and etc would like to sacrifice themselves for the interest of vn and phi.

I do not want to look down upon those little vn and phi. Well, you just do not have the charisma to get all ASEAN countries to jump into your boats.

 

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