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The Indian government has put Chinese mobile giant Huawei in charge of inspecting imported smartphone equipment for secret spyware. But who's spying on whom?

The Indian government is teaming up with Chinese tech giant Huawei to search imported smartphones and communications devices for signs of malware and spyware. However, some Indians are nervous because of Huawei's close ties to the People's Liberation Army and fear that the firm could be complicit in cyberattacks.

One journalist, Joji Thomas Philip of India's Economic Times, calls it “rather like letting the fox in to guard the henhouse.”

Huawei recently opened a research lab at Bangalore's Indian Institute of Science that will be expanded shortly. But opening a joint Indian-Chinese cybersecurity lab also presents problems for Huawei. The mobile-phone provider, which was named one of Fast Company's Most Innovative Companies of 2010, will be operating in an environment where it will be easy for Indians to observe Huawei's techniques and corporate goings-on.

The lab was reportedly opened by request of Indian intelligence services, who fear that foreign governments and corporations could use mobile-phone technology for espionage purposes. The lab's tender requires it to test all imported mobile phones and handsets and equipment for built-in spyware and malware. It is not clear if the laboratory will also be involved in the testing of smartphone applications and for-purchase software for conventional mobile phones.

The text of the agreement specifically states that “In order for (the Indian Institute of Science) to perform certain studies in respect of telecom equipment, IISc shall be requiring detailed understanding about various features, standards and related documentation. Huawei […] agrees to share some information, knowledge, software, hardware and equipments with IISc for its studies.”

India lacks any homegrown mobile provider with the abilities necessary to screen all tech imported into the country. Other foreign providers, interestingly, declined to get involved with the Indian project over fear of violating intellectual property laws.

Huawei, meanwhile, is trying to calm fears in the Indian press that their Bangalore lab will be a front for a spy shop. Ross Gan, worldwide head of corporate communications for the firm, told the Indian Express:

We adopt an open attitude towards security concerns and believe that the brand will overcome any misgivings. […] Our common policy is that ‘you show us the hoops and we will jump through them for you’. Over the last decade, Huawei has invested in countries all over the world with tremendous success.
Fear of Chinese spyware embedded in computers and mobile phones has been a running theme in the Indian tech industry. In April 2010, Indian officials banned Chinese mobile providers from importing any Huawei handsets over fears of embedded spyware. The ban was later rescinded after Huawei and another banned firm, ZTE, provided the Indian government with access to their embedded source code.

The Huawei lab in Bangalore was not subjected to a security review for employees before opening, despite the sensitive nature of the laboratory's work. Huawei sold approximately $1.2 billion worth of handsets in India last year, in spite of the ban.

[Image: Flickr user Fire Monkey Fish]

India Turns To China To Fight Cyberspies | Fast Company

glad we could help india to fight cyberspies.
 
Indian govt is canceling the deal not setting up. It was unknown to IISc about Hauwi.


NEW DELHI: Raising security concerns over the recent tieup between Huawei Technologies , a Chinese firm that has often run into security roadblocks here, and the Bangalore-based Indian Institute of Science (IISc) for testing imported telecom gear for spyware and malware, the union home ministry is contemplating seeking a review of the pact and insisting on a prior security clearance for the agreement.



Home ministry may seek review for of IISc-Huawei Pact to set up telecom lab - The Economic Times
 
The Indian government has put Chinese mobile giant Huawei in charge of inspecting imported smartphone equipment for secret spyware. But who's spying on whom?

The Indian government is teaming up with Chinese tech giant Huawei to search imported smartphones and communications devices for signs of malware and spyware. However, some Indians are nervous because of Huawei's close ties to the People's Liberation Army and fear that the firm could be complicit in cyberattacks.

One journalist, Joji Thomas Philip of India's Economic Times, calls it “rather like letting the fox in to guard the henhouse.”

Huawei recently opened a research lab at Bangalore's Indian Institute of Science that will be expanded shortly. But opening a joint Indian-Chinese cybersecurity lab also presents problems for Huawei. The mobile-phone provider, which was named one of Fast Company's Most Innovative Companies of 2010, will be operating in an environment where it will be easy for Indians to observe Huawei's techniques and corporate goings-on.

The lab was reportedly opened by request of Indian intelligence services, who fear that foreign governments and corporations could use mobile-phone technology for espionage purposes. The lab's tender requires it to test all imported mobile phones and handsets and equipment for built-in spyware and malware. It is not clear if the laboratory will also be involved in the testing of smartphone applications and for-purchase software for conventional mobile phones.

The text of the agreement specifically states that “In order for (the Indian Institute of Science) to perform certain studies in respect of telecom equipment, IISc shall be requiring detailed understanding about various features, standards and related documentation. Huawei […] agrees to share some information, knowledge, software, hardware and equipments with IISc for its studies.”

India lacks any homegrown mobile provider with the abilities necessary to screen all tech imported into the country. Other foreign providers, interestingly, declined to get involved with the Indian project over fear of violating intellectual property laws.

Huawei, meanwhile, is trying to calm fears in the Indian press that their Bangalore lab will be a front for a spy shop. Ross Gan, worldwide head of corporate communications for the firm, told the Indian Express:

We adopt an open attitude towards security concerns and believe that the brand will overcome any misgivings. […] Our common policy is that ‘you show us the hoops and we will jump through them for you’. Over the last decade, Huawei has invested in countries all over the world with tremendous success.
Fear of Chinese spyware embedded in computers and mobile phones has been a running theme in the Indian tech industry. In April 2010, Indian officials banned Chinese mobile providers from importing any Huawei handsets over fears of embedded spyware. The ban was later rescinded after Huawei and another banned firm, ZTE, provided the Indian government with access to their embedded source code.

The Huawei lab in Bangalore was not subjected to a security review for employees before opening, despite the sensitive nature of the laboratory's work. Huawei sold approximately $1.2 billion worth of handsets in India last year, in spite of the ban.

[Image: Flickr user Fire Monkey Fish]

India Turns To China To Fight Cyberspies | Fast Company

glad we could help india to fight cyberspies.

Don't you know that the lab at IISc is being built solely to address the concerns of intelligence and security agencies about the Chinese vendors.
 
Don't you know that the lab at IISc is being built solely to address the concerns of intelligence and security agencies about the Chinese vendors.

Govt of India ordered to review the deal mean canceled. :lol: The IISc lab might not be away of the Chinese companies.
 
Indian govt is canceling the deal not setting up. It was unknown to IISc about Hauwi.


NEW DELHI: Raising security concerns over the recent tieup between Huawei Technologies , a Chinese firm that has often run into security roadblocks here, and the Bangalore-based Indian Institute of Science (IISc) for testing imported telecom gear for spyware and malware, the union home ministry is contemplating seeking a review of the pact and insisting on a prior security clearance for the agreement.



Home ministry may seek review for of IISc-Huawei Pact to set up telecom lab - The Economic Times

Its a good news. Chinese companies should not be allowed to operate in security related sectors
 
One journalist, Joji Thomas Philip of India's Economic Times, calls it “rather like letting the fox in to guard the henhouse.”

Chinese companies unlike say US or EU companies are beholden to their govt. US companies can refuse ( see twitter being latest) any requests that challenges privacy of their user base. Chinese companies- have no respect for international laws and copyrights . This is like asking AQ organization to be your airport security. even the US denied access to Chinese companies within their critical data networks
 
One journalist, Joji Thomas Philip of India's Economic Times, calls it “rather like letting the fox in to guard the henhouse.”

Chinese companies unlike say US or EU companies are beholden to their govt. US companies can refuse ( see twitter being latest) any requests that challenges privacy of their user base. Chinese companies- have no respect for international laws and copyrights . This is like asking AQ organization to be your airport security. even the US denied access to Chinese companies within their critical data networks

its just india's insecurity to chinese high techs``they blocked chinese deal because chinese company have no respect for international laws and copyrights? lol naive indians always fell for those western bashing stuff``` according to PCT it puts india among the countries show the least regards to intellectual property rights, whereas china is a big player of getting patents from PCT to protect IPR.

some single minded indians are really frustrated of foreign companies taking over their country, especially china, lol
 
its just india's insecurity to chinese high techs``they blocked chinese deal because chinese company have no respect for international laws and copyrights? lol naive indians always fell for those western bashing stuff``` according to PCT it puts india among the countries show the least regards to intellectual property rights, whereas china is a big player of getting patents from PCT to protect IPR.

some single minded indians are really frustrated of foreign companies taking over their country, especially china, lol

the world is welcome not to use Indian companies but that does not absolve china's track record the world has shown repeated concern over. the post in question is about using Chinese companies. your attitude is typical of Chinese lending to a stronger case to DENY any deals with Chinese companies when security is of foremost concern. India is not the first country to flag Chinese companies intricate relationship with its govt
 
the world is welcome not to use Indian companies but that does not absolve china's track record the world has shown repeated concern over. the post in question is about using Chinese companies. your attitude is typical of Chinese lending to a stronger case to DENY any deals with Chinese companies when security is of foremost concern. India is not the first country to flag Chinese companies intricate relationship with its govt

What "track record"? Cisco tried suing Huawei for IP theft and the case got thrown out of court. Then Huawei sued Motorola for IP problems and Motorola was forced to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in damages. In fact it is US companies that are stealing from Chinese companies and its so obvious, that even US courts are forced to judge in favor of Chinese companies. Google is still facing trial in China for IP theft as well.
 
This is a bad idea....there was no need to allow chinese telecom companies in India in the fist place....I mean the intention was right that illegal chinese made phone can be lifted from the market if we will allow the original companies to operate. But the problem will be who will monitor this company ?/ What will be the action against them if some foul play is unearthed ? They can very easily tap within our defence circle....
 
given the lack of trust between in india and china i doubt if any chinese company can operate freely in core areas which directly affect national security.
 
What "track record"? Cisco tried suing Huawei for IP theft and the case got thrown out of court. Then Huawei sued Motorola for IP problems and Motorola was forced to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in damages. In fact it is US companies that are stealing from Chinese companies and its so obvious, that even US courts are forced to judge in favor of Chinese companies. Google is still facing trial in China for IP theft as well.

Any cases against Chinese companies in china is thrown out on instruction of the Govt to its puppet Judicary. The US court case was about stopping the sale of the wireless part of the Motorola company to nokia. It was NOT because they did something illegal, it was because Huawie objected to the sale on grounds that it COULD mean some its own intellectual property would get shared. again - it was not shared at the time of the case being field. The great american judical system is unbias...try getting chinese company to pay up when sued in the US- heh.

I've worked in the technology industry for the longest and its standing joke is how they are wary of china's copy paste illegal culture. even russians got burnt on the govt level...

India is wise ....good going. stop throwing a tanturm, get used it - the world is wary..
 
you do know motorola just resold huawei wireless network products under motorola name, since 2000.
the technologies inherited from the moto-huawei jv are only for them to use, not for giving to NSN.
they tried to sale huawei trade secrets without assurances that it will not be shared with NSN that the reeason why they lost in US court. .you're saiyng it's not illigal?
how much do you think motorola worth without houwei IP from the jv?

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its just india's insecurity to chinese high techs``they blocked chinese deal because chinese company have no respect for international laws and copyrights? lol naive indians always fell for those western bashing stuff``` according to PCT it puts india among the countries show the least regards to intellectual property rights, whereas china is a big player of getting patents from PCT to protect IPR.

some single minded indians are really frustrated of foreign companies taking over their country, especially china, lol
:rofl: this come from a person whose country replicates everyting from hotwheels to ipads and guess what it even duplicates indian bike
designs

The real

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And the reel

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comming from an indian shamelessly copying a chinese tablet and gloating all over the webs that they some how invented the cheapest touch screen gadget ever..funny thing their high ranking minister involves in all this scam.lol...and the last time i checked, india is amongst the top 5 IP violators in the world and is no. 1 copycat in pharmaceutical industry..
 

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