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Indian Army losing sniper edge over Pakistan on LoC

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Nearly a fortnight after the surgical strikes in September 2016, Pakistani snipers took out sepoy Sudesh Kumar of 6 Rajput regiment who was on patrol along the LoC in Rajouri. A week later, they struck again, killing BSF jawan Gurnam Singh with a shot to the head in Hiranagar sector, Jammu. Two bullets from a Pak sniper caught rifleman Sandeep Singh Rawat in the neck, killing him instantly as he stood guard along the fence in the Kupwara sector.

In the last four months, over a dozen Indian soldiers have died at the hands of Pakistani snipers. A shortage of the lethal lone wolves, outdated technology and absence of specialised training programmes are fraying India’s edge in covert border warfare. Lack of official acknowledgment in the form of awards and citations is a deterrent to getting fresh recruits.

Indian snipers use only technologically obsolete Russian-made Dragunov rifles of 1960s vintage along the LoC. Acknowledging its slipping edge, an internal report of the Army HQ stated, “Snipers are force multipliers to any infantry battalion. The high standard of sniper training and their imaginative employment leads to decisive and out-of-proportion results.”

The Army started its hunt to replace the Dragunovs around 2012, but the infantry is yet to get new, up to date weapons. Indian Army has two snipers per battalion deployed at the Line of Control.

Little training and outdated equipment have led to India’s slipping sniper edge over Pakistan. Pakistani shooters use modern sniper scopes on their Austrian Steyr SSG .22 rifles. Crawling through thick vegetation, they take up position to monitor Indian troop movement and choose targets. Pakistan snipers are posted permanently at border outposts, while before the surgical strikes they were requisitioned on operational requirement.

“To achieve effective results out of the precision fire of a sniper rifle, it is important that the forced incidental errors due to environmental factors be reduced to minimum,” the Army’s internal report said. It identified hi-tech sniper scopes for small teams to be regularly deployed in counter-terror ops in the plains and high altitude areas up to 20,000ft, such as Siachen, where light and wind factors play an important role in shooting accuracy.

“These sniper detachments operate in conditions where judging distance and cross wind error component adversely affects the external ballistics before the bullet strikes the target. The new sniper scope with inbuilt distance and cross wind component correction will help the sniper to engage with precision,” the report stated while stressing on the need for institutionalised training for Indian snipers.

The Army is compensating the gap by using conventional styles of target engagement and distance assessment. “Third generation telescope sights are accurate to an extent in measuring distance but it requires extensive training at long range. Laser range finders and hand-held thermal imagers are being used to measure accurate distance.

However, it imposes the penalty of additional battle load on the sniper detachments,” the Army report added by saying that optical refracting telescope with variable magnification sites are being used by many armies. However, these sights don’t cater for high-speed cross winds and rarefied air in high altitude areas.

Even the BSF, in view of the rising incidents of sniper fire from Pakistan, has taken preventive measures such as placing nets in border outposts and Observation Posts. A 10-metre high embankment will be built along the LoC too.


http://www.defencenews.in/article/Indian-Army-losing-sniper-edge-over-Pakistan-on-LoC-250437
 
India is still crying out loud of its Fake Surgical Strike. LOL
india can get the best equipment or training but they dont have Pakistani men to shoot. its a head ache for india that almost every bullet gets in india from Pakistan damage one indian soldier.
 
Yeah and you were their commanding officer ?
Much more senior:
Ahir said that of the total ceasefire violation, 216 incidents were reported along LoC and 221 incidents along International Border till November this year.Among the dead, 12 were civilians, eight were Army personnel and five were BSF personnel, he said.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...ament/1/828589.html?client=ms-android-samsung

Anyways Pakistan admitted loosing 27 soldiers along LoC last year.
 
27 figure is from a TV program and isn't proven anywhere. And India army anyways admitted losing more than 4500.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ng-loc-in-pak-firing-since-2001-army-3738096/
Actual figure is 144.
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/169-civilians-144-security-men-killed-border-firing/

And that 4500 figure is as credible as PM Nawaz Sharif figure of 4000 Pakistani soldiers killed in kargil.

Anyways your own defence minister accepted the figures as durust and as ISPR has Never issued any figures on total number of Pakistani soldiers killed and injured on LoC, the figure of 27 killed and 66 injured will remain final.
 
Actual figure is 144.
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/169-civilians-144-security-men-killed-border-firing/

And that 4500 figure is as credible as PM Nawaz Sharif figure of 4000 Pakistani soldiers killed in kargil.

Anyways your own defence minister accepted the figures as durust and as ISPR has Never issued any figures on total number of Pakistani soldiers killed and injured on LoC, the figure of 27 killed and 66 injured will remain final.

Defense minister never accepted anything. He just said yes to whatever said by the program host. ISPR did gave figure of soldiers killed on LOC. In total 12 soldiers were killed including 2 killed on Sep 29.

If Khwaja Asif figure in some TV program is credible then Indian army figure of 4500+ is also credible since it was accepted in written by Indian army. You yourself have already rejected Nawaz Sharif figure of 4000 which obviously is true.

144 figure was issued later to cover up the truth that Indian army accepted in written earlier.

So if 27 from some random TV program is true then 4500+ in written is even more believable.
 
Well Pakistan is pro at hiding casualties..So defines what keeps them in edge..
 
Defense minister never accepted anything. He just said yes to whatever said by the program host. ISPR did gave figure of soldiers killed on LOC. In total 12 soldiers were killed including 2 killed on Sep 29.

If Khwaja Asif figure in some TV program is credible then Indian army figure of 4500+ is also credible since it was accepted in written by Indian army. You yourself have already rejected Nawaz Sharif figure of 4000 which obviously is true.

144 figure was issued later to cover up the truth that Indian army accepted in written earlier.

So if 27 from some random TV program is true then 4500+ in written is even more believable.
As the Defence minister said yes, it is now an official figure.
Also ISPR never gave total figures, even in its year end infograph it gave only total number of civilians killed all the while keeping mouth shut about total number of pakistani soldiers killed.
The 144 soldier figure was corroborated in Legislative Assembly in both June and as well as in December:
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Pak...pact-as-good-as-over/articleshow/55678657.cms

Only thing the 4500 figure matches with is a 2012 figure by Antony which included soldiers killed from all causes(diseases, accidents etc)
New Delhi (PTI): Nearly 4,000 soldiers have been killed in the country after the Kargil operations in 1999 including more than 390 who have committed suicide in the past three years, the Lok Sabha was informed on Monday.

Whatever. 18 killed since Sep 29 and not just 13.
13 killed in cross border firing.
Regular militancy encounters is not a part of border firing.
 

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