Indonesia Defence Forum

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Badak 2 unit & anoa-2 2unit with recovery anoa-2 1 unit, Lampung. I guess it Will going to baturaja

 

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Philippine new President arrive in Bogor Presidential Palace, this is his first foreign trip after becoming Philippine President.

 

[Indos]

Liz Truss winning is good for Indonesia. Now we have Australian PM, France President, German PM, and British PM that is pro Indonesia.

Aside from that we have close partnership with USA, Japan, and South Korea as well.

I still remember her when she teaches Australian think thank, Lowy Institute, some geopolitics lesson about the important of Indonesia in world geopolitics.

 

[Indos]

Marcos Junior stays a bit longer in Indonesia for several days, it is when Jokowi accompany him to go inside Sarinah Mall that is rich with Indonesian traditional products. Sarinah Mall is owned by government for your information.

 

[Indos]

It is likely Philippine Armed Force after ordering 2 LPD to Indonesia's PT PAL this year, will also order 6 NC 212 from Indonesian Aerospace this year. I dont know what is the contain of the defense agreement we signed with Philippine though

 

[Indos]

Breakdown of Defense spending in 2023. PLN means Foreign Loan. PDN means Domestic loan usually intended to finance local defense products.

Around 9 trillion Rupiah (609 million USD) from foreign loan. The RMP (down payment) is 5.2 trillion Rupiah. PDN is 3.1 trillion Rupiah. Total spending will be 17,5 trillion Rupiah (1.18 billion USD) in 2023. This is pretty small compared to 2021 and 2022 defense spending.

Actually some of foreign loan could also be intended for CN 235 order as Indonesian Aerospace has a deal with European financing company to finance CN 235 order. Previously defense minister has a plan to order around 10 CN 235 planes in 2023.

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Correction from my previous post.

Defense equipment acquisition budget for 2023

Total spending for defense equipment acquisition for 2023 is 12 trillion Rupiah (806 million USD). RMP (down payment) around 5.2 trillion Rupiah is mean to activate the foreign and domestic loan and also being used as yearly payment of previous loan.

Foreign loan is 600 million USD, while Domestic loan is 215 million USD

Half of the foreign loan acquisition (300 million USD) is likely going for the order of domestic defense product which is paid in foreign loan. For domestic loan around 3.2 trilliun Rupiah, mostly will be used for buying domestic product as what has been practiced, around 800 billion Rupiah is likely absorbed by 2 CN 235 planes order for Indonesian Navy.

Indonesian Aerospace has cooperation from European financing company in term of financing their products and the latest report from Alman Helvas and Indonesian Aerospace Finance Director suggest 8 CN 235 planes and 10 N 219 planes are planned to be ordered by Ministry of Defense using foreign loan scheme. 10 N219 acquisition plan has been confirm to be already in blue book while 10 CN 235 order ( 8 planes order uses foreign loan ) is said by Minister of Defense (Prabowo) as already gets approval from President.

Total defense spending and percentage to GDP (still less than 1 %)

Total defense spending for 2023 budget is 8.8 billion USD (132 trillion Rupiah), around 0.6% of 2023 GDP (2023 nominal GDP projection is 1.4 trillion USD)


In Rupiah

 

[Indos]

Indonesian Army reserves ( Reserve component taken from voluntarily civilians (thus has better moral than forced reserve component in other nations )

 

[Indos]

Intermezo

Liz Truss and West Java Governor, Ridwan Kamil, drink Indonesian traditional drink, cendol

 

[Indos]

Indonesia government defense industry priority programs:

1. Submarine
2. Fighter Jet, KFX/IFX program
3. Medium tank
4. Rocket
5. Missile
6. Radar
7. Propellant
8. UCAV MALE (Elang Hitam)
9. Underwater sensor
10. Military Satellite

Source

 

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The Defense Attache of the Indonesian Embassy in Madrid accompanied Dr. Muhammad Najib, Indonesian Ambassador to the Kingdom of Spain, inspects the Airbus Military defense industry in San Pablo. Received by Gen. César Simon as Airbus Military Advisor. On this occasion, the Indonesian Ambassador was accompanied by Athan to review the Airbus A400M FAL facilities, FAL C295 facilities and the Airbus International Training Center facilities.

 

[Indos]

With closer relationship with Airbus, I expect after ordering 2 A 400 M we would likely put an order to MRTT next year.

With foreign loan backed program is just 600 million USD for next year budget while half of it is expected to be used for buying 8 CN 235 and 10 N 219, so possibly the remaining 300 million USD may be used to buy 1 new MRTT from Airbus.

Refurbished and upgradation of current F 16 Block 52 into V variant (23 planes) may be preferred if the refurbished and upgradation is done in Indonesia like Falcon Star program. I see the present of Lockheed Martin official in our Aerospace Industry seminar shows this option may be chosen for 2024 fiscal year. We need to extend the life of the planes into another 10 years as stop gap measure because it is very likely that we only have 12 Rafales for our previous F 5 squadron.

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12 Rafales + 23 F 16 C/D V variant + 10 F 16 Block 52 + 16 Sukhoi

And attack squadrons of 20 T 50 Golden Eagle + 30 Hawk 100/200 + 16 Supertucano

And UAV squadron of 6 CH 4 drones

With all of them gets adequate amount of ammunitions (BVR+WVR+ missile + smart bomb)

Is enough in my opinion while waiting for KF21/IFX and MALE Elang Hitam UCAV development program to be completed (certified) around 2026 inshaAllah.

KF21 than should first replace our 30 Hawk 100/200 within 2029-34 as I hope we will start producing KF21/IFX from block 2 variant.

Then start replacing our 10 F 16 A/B MLU in 2035 with KF21 block 3 variants.

2040

So starting in 2040, we should have fighter squadrons comprising only with 2 types of planes, Rafale (12 planes) and KF 21/IFX (74 planes). I expect we will have 12 Rafale (upgraded continously), 32 KF21/IFX block 2 variants, and 42 KF21/IFX block 3 variants.

While I hope we can develop our own STEALTH wingman drone for KF21 / IFX planes that if it is only for block 3 variants then we need around 126 Stealth wingman drones.

MALE UCAV squadrons should have around 64 Elang Hitam MALE UCAV.

That number should be able to reach if our economy keeps growing at 5.5-6.5 percent for the next 2 decades inshaAllah. Expected nominal GDP of 3 trillion USD in 2034 inshaAllah.

 

[Indos]

Data security issue in Indonesian government is related to budget, not Indonesian human capability in protecting the data.

Just give example of Indonesian banks that spend huge in data security.

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[Indos]

We should not be greedy with our money when it comes to spending for our local / domestic defense industry capability.

Take example that the parliament/finance minister only approve around 1.7 trillion Rupiah for Defense ID despite SOE Minister asks about 3 trillion Rupiah for Defense ID production capability. That figure is nothing compared to our overall state budget. PT Pindad has Cyber security program as well though, does government give financial help for that program ?

Our old story is about how difficult it is to set aside some fund to pay for our financial contribution in KF21/IFX program despite it is paid gradually.

That is just the example of both parliament and Finance Ministry dont put much weight on matter related to improving our local defense industry.

Now talking about cyber defense, the problem is the same. Budget is the issue. We have capable local cyber security company like what I posted in above post and also capable human resources on this cyber matter, but we need to spend money to build that capability, we cannot pay them the same amount that we pay our civil servant............

Just check how much our big banks spend on cyber security, that is huge

 

[Indos]

We cannot rely on Foreign institution when it comes to cyber security. I know our government agency has some thing like training in this matter from NSA. They are sent to USA to get training on cyber security issue.

Lembaga Sandi Negara - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

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National Security Agency - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But they will not give you the true knowledge, this is why we have to rely on our local capability, spend money to build that capability using our own people who are expert on this matter, our own research in cyber security.

The same thing also happen in other sector like Aerospace, missile, and others. Spend more on R&D and spend more on our local defense industry, including our local cyber security companies.