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The Crusaders of Palestine thought the same thing before they got wiped out by the Mamluks, so you do not know what will happen in the future.

You cannot just compare Crusaders and Israelis. Crusaders were fighting for a land without a proper logistical base. But Israel; holding on to that land with good logistical base. There fore we cannot assume Israel will go down as Crusaders even if the Muslims were united.
 
You cannot just compare Crusaders and Israelis. Crusaders were fighting for a land without a proper logistical base. But Israel; holding on to that land with good logistical base. There fore we cannot assume Israel will go down as Crusaders even if the Muslims were united.

The "base" of the Jews is Western Dominance that will be gone soon, so who will support them then?
 
Logistics based on Arab soil ? Israel is circle by multiple time bigger Arab country . if the Us/ European don't come forward ' Israel can be wipe out of the map . its a country of only 7.5 million of whom about a million are arab compare to 100 million arab .
 
The "base" of the Jews is Western Dominance that will be gone soon, so who will support them then?

Israel's western logistical base is long gone. Israel now manufactures most of it's needs within it's borders except for some high profile items. BTW western dominance will not go away as you think. It is economically unthinkable. However Even if the west go down Israel will finds friends among others.

Logistics based on Arab soil ? Israel is circle by multiple time bigger Arab country . if the Us/ European don't come forward ' Israel can be wipe out of the map . its a country of only 7.5 million of whom about a million are arab compare to 100 million arab .

Arab tried to wipe Israel off the map in 1948 but failed. (In 1948 Israel fought alone). In all the other major confrontations Arab countries were backed by USSR.
 
Israel's western logistical base is long gone. Israel now manufactures most of it's needs within it's borders except for some high profile items. BTW western dominance will not go away as you think. It is economically unthinkable. However Even if the west go down Israel will finds friends among others.

Yes, "Friends" who will be nowhere near as powerful.

Now how will the West still dominate even when Western publications like the Economist are predicting that within the next 2 decades that China will be richer than the whole West put together?
 
Logistics based on Arab soil ? Israel is circle by multiple time bigger Arab country . if the Us/ European don't come forward ' Israel can be wipe out of the map . its a country of only 7.5 million of whom about a million are arab compare to 100 million arab .

On the contrary, Israel is the only country in the region that has nukes, and a decently sized economy . As far as population goes, the US has only 300 mill, compared to the muslim worlds 1.5 bill.

Population means nothing when most are illiterate and poor. It becomes a liability.

Thirdly I'd be surprised if Arabs of all people got rid of Jews. The Germans, Russians, and others failed. lol.
 
On the contrary, Israel is the only country that has nukes. As far as population goes, the US has only 300 mill, compared to the muslim worlds 1.5 bill.

Population means nothing when most are illiterate and poor. It becomes a liability.

Please do not lump all Muslims together.

Muslims countries like Turkey, Iran, Indonesia are rapidly industrialising and they have a combined population of 400 Million+

The largest Muslim country Indonesia, which is also set to become the first Muslim economy to break through the trillion dollar mark, has more people than the whole Arab world put together.
 
@ On the topic

every nation loves to see a macth they are winning.Whether its football or battle. I dont have an iota of sympathy against terrorists who are killing innocent Jews.
 
Please do not lump all Muslims together.

Muslims countries like Turkey, Iran, Indonesia are rapidly industrialising and they have a combined population of 400 Million+

The largest Muslim country Indonesia, which is also set to become the first Muslim economy to break through the trillion dollar mark, has more people than the whole Arab world put together.

And? There are a ton of non muslim countries over a trillion, heck even mine and Italy are over that amount. I'm not seeing what you are trying to imply here.
 
And? There are a ton of non muslim countries over a trillion, heck even mine is over that amount. I'm not seeing what you are trying to imply here.

You really do not get it do you?

Indonesia is still not developed and is predicted to grow at 6% a year for the next two decades at least. Most large Western economies will barely manage 1-2% a year.

Now, try to think how powerful it will become after these 20 years are over as it will then have nearly 300 million people and will be a semi-industrialised country.
 
Yes, "Friends" who will be nowhere near as powerful.

Ahh.. it is wonderful to note how some people see the world.

Now how will the West still dominate even when Western publications like the Economist are predicting that within the next 2 decades that China will be richer than the whole West put together?

You don't know economics do you? Getting richer doesn't mean it has dominated. China gets richer because people buy stuff. Not only Chinese but other people. Also China gets richer because it's people are poor. So businesses can run on cheap labor. It's all are interconnected. If one link is broken the whole process of getting rich stops functioning unless a new link is found.
 
Ahh.. it is wonderful to note how some people see the world.



You don't know economics do you? Getting richer doesn't mean it has dominated. China gets richer because people buy stuff. Not only Chinese but other people. Also China gets richer because it's people are poor. So businesses can run on cheap labor. It's all are interconnected. If one link is broken the whole process of getting rich stops functioning.

Carry on with your way of thinking as you have the right to think as you wish.

Let us wait till 2030 and see the way the world is then.
 
when human suffering get to a point then tides are turned, its a law of nature. without that law Hitler would still be killing Jews.
 
The Crusaders of Palestine thought the same thing before they got wiped out by the Mamluks, so you do not know what will happen in the future.

I agree with you that nothing is predictable in the future.

It could be like what you say or it could be the other way around too.


There is a massive shift of world power happening now that will be working against the Jews so things will be much harder for them in the future.

That is exactly why they have the Samson option in their doctrine. Don't you think a community that has been on the run for 2000 years, first kicked out by invaders in ancient times then spread all over the world and persecuted by everyone, would not have thought of it?

They swore, "Never again". And they mean it.

BD is doing quite well even though it has no relations with people that are thieves, so why should we change this?

This allegation is there with numerous countries around the world who have border disputes or territories of each other. Do you then not maintain any ties with all of them?

Face it; it is always about religion to you.

when human suffering get to a point then tides are turned, its a law of nature.

Very well said; but that is applicable in all forms and with everybody, regardless.
 
This allegation is there with numerous countries around the world who have border disputes or territories of each other. Do you then not maintain any ties with all of them?

Face it; it is always about religion to you.

Border dispute is not the same as Europeans coming in and stealing someone else's land.

And before you use the US as an example of a stolen country that BD recognises, at least the native Indians have the right to live on any part of their historic lands and are recognised as full and equal citizens.

Most Palestinians have no right to return to their ancient lands.

When the Jews go back to their pre-1967 borders and allow the right of return to every Palestinian back to their land then BD can think about having relations with them.

Otherwise stuff-em!!
 

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