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To newly buys F16 from the Pakistan country the request looks FC1 and the J10 comprehensive war strength

Author: Does not have the sorrow on foot (king small arrow) [i think this is authers name]

Pakistan instead is being controlled the important geography position and the Pakistan country instead is fearing in the question the cooperation manner causes USA its localization is " the non- NATO allied country ", and starts to open wide the front door again to the Pakistan country which the armed force buys, includes restores to the Pakistan country provides the F16 fighter plane. This without doubt disadvantageously becomes the Pakistan country high end fighter plane to Chinese J10 the choice, even causes the person to suspect the Pakistan Congress persists the JF17 plan. Now, the Pakistan country's choice already made clear: Officially will start in 2007 to produce JF17, the Pakistan air force purchases 150; The decision purchases the American newest model F16 but is not Chinese J10, the quantity decides in 75, sur- 11 two handsets.

According to the correlation report introduces: " In 2003 first time to USA proposes purchases when the F-16 fighter plane requests, Pakistani aspect once expresses the hope purchases 20 to 30, but along with the negotiations progress, the Pakistani air force's appetite also gradually is changing in a big way. In Reuter's News Agency in May 26th report, the branch 赫尔 center will point out, from the Bush government will announce will restore will sell after the Pakistani armed force, Pakistan has will requested to order F-16 quantity from initial 18 rises is 75 new F-16c/D fighter plane and 11 two F-16 fighter plane. This greatly surpassed 24 which the USA Department of Defense expert originally estimated." The Pakistan country at first proposes 20-30 with USA plans what concept provides 24 is the? 28 which approaches which USA in 1990 detained the Pakistan country already pays money.

The bilateral negotiations process approximately is: " In September, 2003, the Pakistani Department of Defense one high-quality visiting delegation is a guest the Pentagon, proposed to the USA Department of Defense purchased the F-16 fighter plane the request. Afterwards, American Pakistan both sides carried on on this question more than one year of consultations. After repeatedly measures, the American government finally complied the Pakistan side request. On this March 25th, President Bush personally announced USA will sell the Pakistan F-16 fighter plane the decision, both countries immediately launches the new turn of negotiations." In other words USA just officially agreed again sold F16 to the Pakistan country two months, the Pakistan country on asked to buy the quantity enhances one one-and-a-half times to nearly four times. In the quality, the Pakistan side " the explicit expression request purchases F-16c/D the Block50/52 raid of fighter plane. Also is the most advanced F-16 model which the United States Air Force at present has.

" Asked grandfather to consider paternal grandmother " tosses about more than one year, with great difficulty just strove for " grandfather " to move, this " minibus " immediately steadily market quotation, quite somewhat had to turn seller market buyer market stance, with had to to want what bay bay completely two kind of styles to USA for whatever. Which then the Pakistan country does come this 底气? Must know in September, 2003 the Pakistan Department of Defense one temporary residence Pentagon asked bought F16 time, China and Pakistan to unite the development FC1/JF17 just in Chengdu flies the blue sky (owlet dragon in 03 years on August 25th flies successfully, on September 2nd held again in Chengdu flies ceremony), but purchased in the English media the Pakistan side the F16 number enhances to 75 news male Yu Zhong's in this May, the American media also happen to reports the Pakistan country official announcement altogether will produce 400 news with partner China. The same month, changes to the DSI air intake owlet dragon 04 machine models appears on the Chinese Internet. Some people think the side largely enhances this fighter plane the technical content is because Bush government's the official authorization sells F16 in two months ago on March 25th to the Pakistan side, but the opposite extrapolation also can establish, was the Pakistan side through 01-03 machine establishment to 04 machine confidence, therefore as soon as changed two years ago this section cooperation fighter plane just ascended the sky when to the Pentagon asks to buy the F16 fighter plane the low key.

I think the side for 留住 the Pakistan side decides enhances 04 machine technical content the possibility is not big, because of 从理论上讲, all prototypical development all has the Pakistan side the investment and designs personnel's participation. Even if center the side carries the Pakistan side fire pivot, the Pakistan side in under the situation which knows nothing about not necessarily accepts with pleasure in addition this item " the big surgery " and therefore enhances production cost. How is center the side really is in is coerced the family property which under the helpless situation carries out has? Is not proves in the same old way 04 machine sufficiently cause the Pakistan side at for to be passively initiative to the American negotiations moderate change, the quality requirement mentions goes against, simultaneously in the quantity doubles. Carries the equipment aspect, the Pakistan side request is not also low, " except needs to provide the advanced radar, the reconnaissance / electronic warfare hangs the cabin as well as AIM-9 " the sidewinder " outside the missile and the precise guided bomb, the Pakistan side specially requests to buy the fighter plane must have hangs carries and launches AIM-120 ' Arab League 姆 Ram ' (AMRAAM) the advanced medium range air-to-air missile ability ". Please note is " must have hangs carries and launches AIM-120 "!

Also has one kind of possibility, is at the same time the Pakistan side ¨d¨d becomes take JF17 and the F16 latent competitor flies production J10 as forces the American perspective. If indeed so, does not show J10 compared to can challenge the F16 nearly model together with its board installation sexual price, but or enemy its newest model. Past most purchased the J10 quantity to People's Liberation Army the extrapolation all is 300 (my personally also is like this extrapolates), and believed FC1 will supply only the foreign trade, could not enter the People's Liberation Army air force the fighter plane sequence. The owlet dragon 04 machine models appearances will purchase 250 FC1 after People's Liberation Army the news spread, the J10 prospect will be suddenly gloomy, even will be talked into by some net friends is the chicken 肋, this section will be called by armed force confuse " the fable which will not extinguish " the fighter plane will resemble " the fable which will become in an instant soon is disillusioned ". If one pair of one place comparison, FC1 and the J10 these two section three generations machine, definitely surpass J7G and the J8F these two section newest promotion version two generations in the synthesis operational performance aspect machine. But after equipped the early-warning aircraft, J7G and J8F matched the use definitely can be competent the air defense for the nation, the long-distance 空中作战 duty + flew by the J11/ Soviet series the leopard holds the post of appropriately, therefore, not only J10 a little accumulated, the FC1 necessity was not also obvious, but in the short range spatial opposite attack aspect, these two section three generations machine also not necessarily strongly went compared to after promotion Q5X to that.

Thus it can be seen, becomes flies the development two section three generation of machine functions host if our country light main force fighter plane development promotes to quite to the F16 level, grasps such as the DSI air intake and the duck wing air operated layout and so on the special technology, exercises and raises one scientific research troop, simultaneously provides more choices to the domestic and foreign supports. Again has is the clearer Chinese national condition and the American national condition, the Chinese national defense strategy and the American national defense strategy difference and these two big differences to the armament system different request. As for the J10 output, I think mainly looks the military expenses the arrangement (because J10 indeed is not cheap airplane), in under the military expenses permission situation, the output which estimates must be similar with FC1, probably in 300-400, outside 100-150 sells (me believes possibly has this). Measures post-natal J10 can unceasingly enhance the technical content through the promotion, quickly runs according to the Chinese half step the principle, 50-70 one raid is quite appropriate, later period the product ought to be able to achieve three charges d'affaires' levels, the improvement is partial mainly is the motor power, the navigation electricity system and the armament system.


Attached map explanation: Under is introduces flies develops successfully the DSI air intake report, illustration obviously is not the FC1 air intake, but actually with J10 which on-line appears changes in DSI suggestion schematic drawing DSI is somewhat similar.
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/critical3/...9/12386381.html
this is the ascociated article...translated via Googles translate function.
 
o newly buys F16 from the Pakistan country the request to look at FC1 and the J10 comprehensive war strength
Http://military.china.com 2005-06-09 10:44:33 [big center is small]


Author: Does not have person of the sorrow (Wang Xiaojian)

Pakistan instead is being controlled the important geographical position and the Pakistan country instead is fearing in the question the cooperation manner to cause US its localization is "the non- NATO allied country", and starts to open wide the front door again to the Pakistan country which the armed force buys, including restores provides the F16 fighter plane to the Pakistan country. This is without doubt disadvantageous to Chinese J10 becomes the Pakistan country high end fighter plane the choice, even causes the person to suspect the Pakistan Congress persists the JF17 plan. Now, the Pakistan country's choice already was clear about: Officially will start in 2007 to produce JF17, the Pakistan air force purchases 150; The decision purchases the American newest model F16 but is not Chinese J10, the quantity decides in 75, sur- 11 two handsets.

According to the related report introduced that, "In 2003 to US proposed for the first time purchases when the F-16 fighter plane requests, the Pakistani aspect once expressed the hope purchases 20 to 30, but along with the negotiations progress, the Pakistani air force's appetite also gradually is changing in a big way. In Reuter in May 26 report, in the branch hull pointed out, from the Bush Administration after announced will restore will sell to the Pakistani armed force, Pakistan has requested to order the F-16 quantity from the initial 18 rises will be 75 new F-16C/D fighter plane and 11 two F-16 fighter plane. This has greatly surpassed 24 which the USA Department of Defense experts originally estimated." The Pakistan country proposed at first 20-30 with US planned what concept provides 24 is? 28 which approaches which US in 1990 to detain the Pakistan country already pays money.

Both sides negotiate the process approximately is: "In September, 2003, a Pakistani Department of Defense high-quality visiting delegation is a guest the Pentagon, proposed to the USA Department of Defense purchases the F-16 fighter plane the request. Afterwards, American Pakistan carried in this question more than year of consultations. After repeatedly measures, the American government finally complied Palestine's request. This March 25, President Bush personally announced US will sell the Pakistan F-16 fighter plane the decision, both countries has launched the new turn of negotiations immediately." In other words US just officially agreed again sells F16 to the Pakistan country two months, the Pakistan country on asked to buy the quantity to enhance a time partly to arrive nearly four times. In the quality, Palestine "the explicit expression request purchases F-16C/D a Block50/52 raid of fighter plane. Also is the most advanced F-16 model which the United States Air Force at present has.

"Begged help from all quarters" tossed about for more than a year, just strove for "grandfather" to move with great difficulty, this "the minibus" steadily the market quotation, quite some several minute has had to turn immediately the seller market the buyer market the stance, with had to want any to US for any the bay bay completely two kind of styles. Which then the Pakistan country does come this energy? Must know in September, 2003 a Pakistan Department of Defense line asked bought F16 time, China and Pakistan in the Pentagon to unite the development FC1/JF17 just in Chengdu to fly the blue sky (owlet dragon in 03 years on August 25 to fly successfully, on September 2 held in Chengdu to fly ceremony), but purchased in the English media Palestine the F16 number to enhance this May which revealed to the public to 75 news, the American media happen to had also reported the Pakistan country official announcement altogether will produce 400 news with partner China. The same month, changes the DSI air intake owlet dragon 04 machine models to appear on the Chinese Internet. Some people thought China largely enhances this fighter plane the technical content was because Bush Administration's the official authorization sells F16 in two months ago on March 25 to Palestine, but the opposite extrapolation also can establish, was Palestine machine has established through 01-03 to 04 machine confidence, therefore when changed two years ago this section cooperation fighter plane just ascended the sky to the Pentagon asks to buy the F16 fighter plane the low key.

I thought China for detain Palestine to decide enhances 04 machine technical content the possibility not to be big, because of theoretically speaking, all prototypical development all has Palestine the investment and designs personnel's participation. Even if China carries a Palestine fire pivot, Palestine in the situation which knows nothing about not necessarily is accepting with pleasure in addition this item "the big surgery" and therefore enhances production cost. How is China really is in is compelled the family property which helpless in the situation carries out to have? Is not proved in the same old way 04 machine sufficiently cause Palestine in to negotiate to America changes for is passively initiative, mentions the quality requirement goes against, simultaneously in the quantity doubles. Carries the equipment aspect, Palestine's request is not low, "except needs to provide the advanced radar, the reconnaissance/electronic warfare hangs the cabin as well as AIM-9" the sidewinder "outside the missile and the precision guidance bomb, Palestine specially requests to buy the fighter plane to have to have hangs carries and launches AIM-120 ' Amram ' (AMRAAM) the advanced medium range air-to-air missile ability". Invites note is "must have hangs carries and launches AIM-120"!

Also some one kind of possibility, is at the same time Palestine 篓d篓d becomes take JF17 and the F16 latent competitor flies production J10 as forces the US. If indeed like this, showed J10 compared to can challenge the F16 nearly model together with its board installation natural price, but or not enemy its newest model. In the past most purchased the J10 quantity to People's Liberation Army the extrapolation all is 300 (I also is extrapolates like this), and believed FC1 only will supply the foreign trade, could not enter the People's Liberation Army air force the fighter plane sequence. The owlet dragon 04 machine models appearances will purchase 250 FC1 after People's Liberation Army the news to spread, the J10 prospect will be suddenly gloomy, even is talked into by some 缃戝弸 will be the weak, this section is called by armed force confusing "the fable which will not extinguish" the fighter plane will resemble "the fable which will become in an instant soon is disillusioned". If a pair of place comparison, FC1 and the J10 these two section three generations machine, definitely surpass J7G and the J8F these two section newest promotion version second-generation machine in the synthesis operational performance aspect. But after has equipped the early-warning aircraft, J7G and J8F match the use definitely to be able to be competent the air defense for the nation, the long-distance air operation duty + flies by the J11/ Soviet series the leopard to hold the post appropriately, therefore, not only J10 a little accumulates, the FC1 necessity is not obvious, but in the short range spatial opposite attack aspect, after these two section three generations machine also not necessarily strongly goes compared to promotion Q5X to that.

Thus it can be seen, Cheng Fei develops two section three generation of machine functions mainly are our country light main force fighter plane development promote to quite to the F16 level, grasps such as the DSI air intake and the duck wing air operated layout and so on the special technology, exercises and raises a scientific research troop, simultaneously provides more choices to the domestic and foreign supports. Again has is the clearer Chinese national condition and the American national condition, the China national defense strategy and the US national defense strategy difference and these two big differences to the armament system different request. As for the J10 output, I thought mainly looks at the military expenses the arrangement (because J10 indeed is a not cheap airplane), in the military expenses permission situation, the output which estimated must be similar with FC1, probably in 300-400, outside 100-150 sells (me to believe has this possibility). Measures post-natal J10 to be able unceasingly to enhance the technical content through the promotion, quickly runs according to the Chinese half step the principle, a 50-70 raid quite appropriate, later period the product ought to be able to achieve three charges d'affaires' levels, the improvement are partial mainly are the motor power, the navigation electricity system and the armament system.


Attached figure explanation that, Under is introduced Cheng Fei develops successfully the DSI air intake report, illustration obviously is not the FC1 air intake, but actually with J10 which on-line appears changes in DSI suggestion schematic drawing DSI to have several minute similar.

a translation of the same thing but using babelfish.
 
:rofl: In the second article Pakistan is spelled Palestine, that translator shucks.

Well to the topic.

The prospects of buying J-10 in the future for Pakistan Air Force is probably the last choice, the article mentions that J-10 is not upto level with F-16 latest model, and it also not that cheap! Looks like that J-10 will be getting an DSI Intake. Regarding the purchase of JF-17 in PLAF looks quite well, but when buying about 300-500 JF-17 could lower the number of J-10s for PLAF in the future, but no doubt if funds are avilable or China is need it will be getting more of them.

J-10 is not mature yet, like we all know thus is not in a very good form. Surprisingly i have seen the quotation of AIM-120 AMRAAM in this article, that PAF actually did request it with the deal, and it makes me think of all the other sources uncredible, because myself have read these news regarding AIM-120 requirement when the F-16 purchase was being done or were those Indian Dailies! :ranting:


edited by Yahya
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DSI is a type of intake..thus the intake on future J10 IS a DSI not similar to it..
 
I heard that DSI is a very latest technology, and is one of the latest in the world. Is it true?
 
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