Kashmir | News & Discussions.

[Areesh]

Not surprising considering the likes of Zaid Hamid enjoys so much fame in Pakistan!

Huh... Zaid hamid has very much occupied you guys.

Anyways

What you want me to post statistics of people killed in suicide bombs, for indulging in alleged blasphemy etc etc? Internet is your friend, google it up!

No but you can search on any search engine with the keywords like maoists, secessionists movements in India, farmer suicides, female infanticides etc etc. I know internet is your friend too and you can do it too.

 

[vandemataram]

Scrap Article 370 and see Kashmir 'issue' resolve itself within 5 years!
Mirwaiz and all will shut themselves up!

Yes , please. India is a poor country.

We cant afford to see our tax payers money going in billions every year to maintain these bastards.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Pakistan asks India to realize ground situation in Kashmir​

"There were UN resolutions on the Jammu and Kashmir issue and India itself committed to hold plebiscite there." — File Photo

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan said on Thursday that it was time for India to realize that it could not continue suppressing the will of people of Jammu and Kashmir.

Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit told a weekly briefing that whatsoever powerful India might be but that did not give it right to suppress the legitimate and peaceful struggle for right of self-determination.

The spokesman said that there were UN resolutions on the Jammu and Kashmir issue and India itself committed to hold plebiscite there.

Replying to a question, the spokesman reiterated Pakistan’s stand that all issues between the two countries, including Jammu and Kashmir, should be resolved through dialogue.

He said, “India knows well that without resolving the Kashmir dispute there can neither be mutual trust between the two countries nor can there be viable peace in the region.”

The spokesman strongly condemned rowdyism against Hurriyat leadership that only portrays India’s nervousness at the on-going demonstrations and strikes in the occupied Kashmir.

He also rejected the Indian Foreign Secretary’s remarks that Pakistan has no right to give sermons on morality to India vis-a-vis New Delhi’s desire to seek permanent seat at the UN Security Council.

The spokesman said that a foreign policy that is devoid of moral and legal norms and driven solely by real-politik was a recipe for promoting anarchical tendencies in international relations.

He said in the pursuit of its foreign policy, Pakistan had always upheld the principles of international law.

Abdul Basit said, “India’s aversion to moral and legal norms is understandable given the fact that it continues to violate the principles as enshrined in the UN charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as well as several UN resolutions.”

While commenting on a media report that a United States (US) court has summoned Pakistani intelligence officials in connection with a case pertaining to Mumbai attacks, the spokesman said he had no exact or full details about it.

However, he pointed out that trial against seven accused in the Mumbai attack was underway in Pakistan.

“Pakistan is committed to bring the perpetrators of Mumbai terror attacks to justice, so dragging intelligence agencies into this in any manner is preposterous,” he added.

The spokesman once against said that Pakistan was against drone attacks and had been impressing upon Obama administration to revisit the policy as it was not helping counter-terrorism efforts.

He said there was no question that Pakistan would allow drone attacks in Balochistan or any other part of the country.

He told a questioner that Pakistan had always challenged the ****** terminology so it was not necessary for it to be present at forums like NATO summit in Lisbon.

“The international community recognizes importance of Pakistan and the key role it is playing against terrorism and militancy,” he added.

Replying to another question he said Pakistan had always sincerely tried to help the process of bringing about peace and stability in Afghanistan. It would, therefore, welcome the withdrawal of coalition from Afghanistan as and when it happens, he said.

The spokesman hoped that the coalition forces would be able to have developed Afghan National Army and other security forces in Afghanistan by 2014 enabling them to take full charge to prevent anarchy.

He said, “Pakistan doesn’t expect the coalition forces to stay in Afghanistan forever.”

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[Kinetic]

Pakistan asks India to realize ground situation in Kashmir

Does Pakistan realize the ground situation? How Kashmir became violent after militancy started?!!! Who gained what? No one gained anything!!!

He said, “India knows well that without resolving the Kashmir dispute there can neither be mutual trust between the two countries nor can there be viable peace in the region.”

I don't think there is any solution to Kashmir that will be accepted by both India and Pakistan. Kashmir issue is a problem between India and Pakistan but it will not hurt our development.

He also rejected the Indian Foreign Secretary’s remarks that Pakistan has no right to give sermons on morality to India vis-a-vis New Delhi’s desire to seek permanent seat at the UN Security Council.

The spokesman said that a foreign policy that is devoid of moral and legal norms and driven solely by real-politik was a recipe for promoting anarchical tendencies in international relations.

He said in the pursuit of its foreign policy, Pakistan had always upheld the principles of international law.

Abdul Basit said, “India’s aversion to moral and legal norms is understandable given the fact that it continues to violate the principles as enshrined in the UN charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as well as several UN resolutions.”

I think Pakistan is the only country that is against India's UNSC aim but what can Pakistan do to stop India? The 'Coffee Club' is old now and all the members are in favor of India now and its proved in recent elections.

 

[Vajra_Yuddh]

Internal matter! No need for a foreign country to meddle in our internal affairs. We don't tell Pakistan how it should manage FATA or Balochistan.

 

[Vajra_Yuddh]

Huh... Zaid hamid has very much occupied you guys.

Anyways



No but you can search on any search engine with the keywords like maoists, secessionists movements in India, farmer suicides, female infanticides etc etc. I know internet is your friend too and you can do it too.

We certainly have big issues agreed. We are a big country after all with a huge population.

But I think Pakistan should focus on its own internal chaos like debted economy, growing radicalism, falling currency, unemployment increasing, rampant bomb attacks, illegal border movement with Afghanistan, balochistan secessionist movement, uncontrollable FATA etc, than asking us what to do. Non-involvement in each others' matters will lead to better and more genuine peace than this meddlesome approach.

You solve your problem your way, we will solve ours. Thanks for the offer but we don't need help.

 

[jatayu]

Let Pakistan fulfill its own peoples aspiration like swat, bouluchisthan, Islamic extremist etc etc and they they can lecture about our internal issues. Did I forgot to tell Indian is DEMOCRATIC country our people decide whice is good for us not by the few generals

 

[Malik Usman]

In United Nations Resolution Kashmir is a disputed area between India and Pakistan. And the Kashmiri Peoples will decide weather they want to live with Pakistan or India...If fair elections held there.

So Indians can't claim that this is there Internal matter......Now the time came Indians really need to understand they can't control the voices of peoples in Kashmir.........What's going right now in Kashmir if Indian still thinks its part of India then nobody can't do anything if they are in denial mood...by knowing the reality.
The ground reality in this time not even men, women and children are too on the streets to protest against Indian army which is illegally occupying Kashmir. And every day lot's of Kashmiri peoples are dying there due to Indian Army's killings.

"Even Today in Jammu Kashmir on 14th August Pakistan's National Day Pakistan Flag is raised and saluted....and on 15th August on India's National day people celebrate this as black day.

 

[deckingraj]

In United Nations Resolution Kashmir is a disputed area between India and Pakistan. And the Kashmiri Peoples will decide weather they want to live with Pakistan or India...If fair elections held there.

So Indians can't claim that this is there Internal matter......Now the time came Indians really need to understand they can't control the voices of peoples in Kashmir.........What's going right now in Kashmir if Indian still thinks its part of India then nobody can't do anything if they are in denial mood...by knowing the reality.
The ground reality in this time not even men, women and children are too on the streets to protest against Indian army which is illegally occupying Kashmir. And every day lot's of Kashmiri peoples are dying there due to Indian Army's killings.

"Even Today in Jammu Kashmir on 14th August Pakistan's National Day Pakistan Flag is raised and saluted....and on 15th August on India's National day people celebrate this as black day.

That is the crux of the problem...You think we are not looking at the ground reality and we think it is you who are not accepting the ground reality....Pakistan can do whatever they want to but no one can snatch an inch of Kashmir from us and we are in no mood to give it either...

 

[Kinetic]

In United Nations Resolution Kashmir is a disputed area between India and Pakistan. And the Kashmiri Peoples will decide weather they want to live with Pakistan or India...If fair elections held there.

There will not be any election and 'if' there it is than also it cannot be 'fair' because....

1) Many of the Kashimiris are out of Kashmir after militancy started 20 years back, specially Pandits.

2) Most of the people in Pakistani Kashmir are not Kashmiris.

3) Kashmir is violent now, so no such election that question India's integrity. If the situation have been like before militancy started than there would have a question of election.

So Indians can't claim that this is there Internal matter......Now the time came Indians really need to understand they can't control the voices of peoples in Kashmir.........What's going right now in Kashmir if Indian still thinks its part of India then nobody can't do anything if they are in denial mood...by knowing the reality.

Agreed with the bold part, no one can't do anything. Thats the ground reality!!!! Pakistan must understand this!!!

The ground reality in this time not even men, women and children are too on the streets to protest against Indian army which is illegally occupying Kashmir. And every day lot's of Kashmiri peoples are dying there due to Indian Army's killings.

Do Pakistan army kill anyone inside Pakistan, than why? For your knowledge IA only kills militants and for law and order situation it is CRPF and state police.

"Even Today in Jammu Kashmir on 14th August Pakistan's National Day Pakistan Flag is raised and saluted....and on 15th August on India's National day people celebrate this as black day.

For last 63 years there are elected govts, public servants, police in Kashmir as well that is a clear sign for Pakistan as well. If militancy wasn't started 20 years back than Kashmir should have different now.

 

[Kinetic]

No the ones which sacrifice kids in front of Kali mata.

This man is sick!!!!

 

[Surrender2me]

In United Nations Resolution Kashmir is a disputed area between India and Pakistan. And the Kashmiri Peoples will decide weather they want to live with Pakistan or India...If fair elections held there.

So Indians can't claim that this is there Internal matter......Now the time came Indians really need to understand they can't control the voices of peoples in Kashmir.........What's going right now in Kashmir if Indian still thinks its part of India then nobody can't do anything if they are in denial mood...by knowing the reality.
The ground reality in this time not even men, women and children are too on the streets to protest against Indian army which is illegally occupying Kashmir. And every day lot's of Kashmiri peoples are dying there due to Indian Army's killings.

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maybe u should see this report:-

Pakistan has objected to the exclusion of Kashmir from a list of disputes under the observation of the Security Council as mentioned by the UK's top diplomat in an annual debate on UNSC reforms here.

Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had said that the UN will not intervene in Kashmir issue until requested by both the parties -- India and Pakistan.

As far as this role of good offices is concerned, the United Nations normally takes that initiative when requested by both parties concerned," Ban said in October.

For full report check this link
Pak objects to no mention of Kashmir in UN list of disputes

 

[Awesome]

You are assuming that there are no Kashmiri Pandits in VHP..

It's not my assumption, two groups have been mentioned by name. Kashmir Punan (Pandits) and VHP (Hindu Right-wing).

Also people claiming no reputable source has mentioned right-wing Hindu parties, just one simple google revealed your most reputable source saying this:

The Hindu : Front Page : Chaos as Mirwaiz is heckled at Chandigarh seminar

Kashmiri leader Mirwaiz Umar Farooq speaking at a seminar under heavy security following a violent protest by Kashmiri Pandits and activists of right-wing Hindu organisations in Chandigarh on Thursday.

Akkhan walay Annay... Anyone???

Indeed.

 

[Awesome]

Old Srinagar Flares Up Against Attack On Mirwaiz

Srinagar, Nov 25, KONS: Tension gripped parts old Srinagar on Thursday as groups of protesting youth took to the streets after reports that Mirwaiz Umer Farooq had been injured in an attack by Sangh Parivar activists during a seminar in Chandigarh.

Shops closed down in the Mirwaiz stronghold of Nauthatta, Rajouri Kadal and adjoining areas, and clashes broke out in several localities where groups of protestors pelted stones at the police and the paramilitary forces.

Traffic in the busy area was disrupted for several hours and the streets wore a deserted look as protests rocked the politically volatile quarters of the city.

Large crowds chanting pro-Mirwaiz and freedom slogans took to the streets in Nawab Bazaar, Bohri Kadal, Gojwara, Rainawari and adjacent areas, and clashed with the forces, with the latter trying to quell brick-batting with cane-charges and tear gas.

The police and the paramilitary forces were attacked at a number of placed in Nawab Bazaar, triggering off prolonged clashes that closed down commercial activity and sent traffic off the roads.

Strong protests were also reported from Nawa Kadal and Saraf Kadal.
Additional forces were moved into the old city to keep the situation under control, and authorities announced curfew in five of its police precincts late in the evening to pre-empt trouble on Friday when congregational prayers are held at the Jamai Masjid.

The restrictions have also been imposed in view of Syed Ali Shah Geelani’s call to the martyrs’ Graveyard at Eidgah to lay the foundation stone for a resistance memorial.

Consequences.

 

[EjazR]

1000 CRPF personnel, 10 more bunkers to go from Srinagar

Jammu: In a major decision, Jammu and Kashmir Government today ordered withdrawal of nearly 1000 CRPF personnel from Srinagar town besides removal of 10 more bunkers as part of its peace initiative to make life easy for the people of the state.

Chief Minister Omar Abdullah cleared the proposal this evening after assessing the law and order situation in the Valley, which has seen a violent summer this year, official sources said here.

According to the sources, 10 more bunkers will be removed from Srinagar city raising the number of bunkers removed to 26 since October five.

A plan had been worked out by the local police with the CRPF in consultations with the security agencies for withdrawal of one battalion of the CRPF (1000 personnel) from the city, a move which is seen in tandem with the Chief Minister's promise of reducing foot prints of security personnel in the civilian population if there was an improvement in the situation.

Earlier, as per the decision of the unified headquarters, 16 bunkers were to be removed.

The CRPF has been assisting the state police in maintenance of law and order in Srinagar and other towns and its personnel are manning the bunkers dotting the city.

The Centre had also requested the state government to review the deployment of security forces in Kashmir Valley with particular reference to descaling the number of bunkers and check-points in Srinagar and other towns, and to review the notification of areas as 'disturbed areas'.