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who is talking to you son

keep your comments to the topic or go to bharatmilitary or something

This is a forum. everyone is free to comment. No one needs a personal invitation to comment on a post. When you post something here, you are talking to EVERYONE.

My post is within the topic. You commented on how Pakistani military is superior to Israel's and how muslims arent afraid to use suicide bombing. I just pointed out that it isnt muslims alone who are not afraid of suicide bombings, and that suicide bombings are a last ditch attempt. Superior militaries dont even consider the option.

And please dont tell me where to go. Whether I go to bharatmilitary or not is my personal choice.
 
Israil's intelligence agency Mosad along with Indian Raw are operating training centers in Afghanistan and they are sending suicide bombers to Pakistan to destablize our country. India and Israil had joint plans to declare the Pakistan as a failed state. but thanks God that we have a Pakistan Army which fought the war on westren borders and cleared these areas from Indian supported millitants.

Any photo, proof, any name of just 1 single Raw trained terrorist??

Or is it just 1 single guy doing all the havoc in there??:undecided:
 
If a 2 state solution is made , then and only then should pak think about recognising Israel. We have to accept that Israel is a reality now unfortunatly. However until they dont give atleast the pre-67 lands back to the palestinians there should be no recognition.
Will this happen though, the 2 state solution? Most probably not, Israel has nothing to lose in the current situation so why would it give land back to the Palestinians. Also if any attempt is made in UN to make this happen Daddy america will veto it like it has done in the past!
 
What is the Israeli thinking about Pakistan, just mentioned by Black Blood in another thread "Biggest threat to Pakistan" and people will understand the reality:

Part 1:

The words of David Ben Gurion, the first Israeli Prime Minister, as printed in the Jewish Chronicle,9 August 1967, leave nothing to imagination:

"The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs.

This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps
against Pakistan. Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.

Part 2:

Israeli air force Tried to Attack Pakistan's nuclear facilities jointly with India , On july 07 1982 when IAF attacked Osiraq Nuclear facility and destroyed it Pakistan's then leader Gen Zia ul Haq issued a special contingency plan on july 10 1982 in order to repel such an attack on Kahota labs .

Through covert Channels Israel was sent a " Warning " if they Attacked kahuta Pakistan will destroy " Dimona" israel's nuclear facility in Negev Desert !

On may 13 1998 After indian nuclear tests a joint Indo israel attack on kahuta was highly anticipated.
Pakistan tested its devices on 28th of the following month while Pakistan Air force remained on a " Red alert " to protect kahuta .

in the same month Pakistan's ambassador to UNO Mr: Ahmad kamal told CNN that Pakistan has " Intelligence reports" confirming a Joint Indo isreal strike on Kahuta.

Here are his words:

" we are involved in this threat and making sure that it does not arise , but if it does then World must know that Pakistan is " Ready" that it will "react and the reaction would be Massive and decisive "
and it would lead us into a situation which will abode the peace not only in this region but "Beyond"

Ahmad kamal


PAF remained on a consistent Silent alert !

A Pakistani defense analyst " Hassan aksari Rizvi " said that 2 intelligence reports were received 1st a sighting of an " Unidentified F-16" on may 27 ( india does not have F-16's)
in Pakistan's Airspace which suggested the presence of an Israeli F-16 aircraft in the area!

2nd intelligence report suggested " unusual movement of Fighter jets just across to Pakistani border hinting a strike on Kahuta just like on Iraqi facilities "

So what we have learned so far? " There was an Israeli F-16 in Pakistan's airspace detected on 27th may 1998 a day before Pakistan's nuclear tests."


But the Mission was Aborted !!!
why?? good question.

1: Pakistan's strong Air force ( All of the PAF F-16's got air borne and flew over sensitive installations) / Air defense / Deployment of Ghauri Missiles on the Same day!

2: India was sent a " Message " to abort that mission either it would have a lot to Lose inc its Nuclear facilities too!

3: Fear of The Red Dragon " India got a message from Chinese too / a strong one!"

4: Indian high Command got scared , they had to abort the mission and they Refused Israeli Pilots ( there were more Vipers on Srinagar airbase , i will talk about it later ) to refuel Indian soil after an attack was made .

5: Israel's fear of a Bloody response of the " Muslim world "

On the same date.
some Israeli F-16's were detected by a Spy satellite ( china-pak Intel sharing agreement ) Parked on Srinagar airbase in Occupied Kashmir . To India a message was sent " The presence of IAF vipers means an Attack on Pakistan's nuclear facilities , But India must know that we are " Watching" and even Before these Vipers will fly to Attack Us , we will destroy Mumbai & New deli to smoke and ashes "

As a consequence the Mission was aborted .!!!!!!

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Part 3:

Israel in Kargil war!!

read this by an Indian author .
IntelliBriefs: How Israel helped India win the Kargil War

Israeli ambassador to India mentioned in His Interview how Israeli Commandos helped Indian forces and how Israel helped India in Fighting the War.!
'Israel helped India during Kargil'

Israel helped India turn around Kargil war?


In a startling revelation, the Israeli Ambassador in New Delhi, Mark Sofer, has said that his country had assisted India in 'turning around' the situation during the 1999 Kargil war with Pakistan.

In an interview with a weekly, the envoy disclosed how defence ties between the two countries got a boost after Kargil when Israel came to India's rescue at a critical time, helping turn around the situation on the ground.

'I think we proved to the Indian government that you can rely on us, that we have the wherewithal. A friend in need is a friend indeed,' he said.

He also disclosed that Indo-Israeli defence ties would go beyond mere selling-buying of arms.

'We do have a defence relationship with India, which is no secret. What is secret is what the defence relationship is? And with all due respect, the secret part will remain secret,' he said in the interview to Outlook weekly magazine.

Nice bedtime story man...thanks for sharing..:rofl::rofl:

I think it could be even be more spicy,if you would mention USA.U have mentioned china in support of pakistan,but forgot to mention israel's brother USA as their support.

Ohh.. you might thought that USA will support you in the war against Israel..:rofl::rofl:

And one thing "from where u got this story"?,
may be from your 9th standard history book.....right
 
Israil's intelligence agency Mosad along with Indian Raw are operating training centers in Afghanistan and they are sending suicide bombers to Pakistan to destablize our country. India and Israil had joint plans to declare the Pakistan as a failed state. but thanks God that we have a Pakistan Army which fought the war on westren borders and cleared these areas from Indian supported millitants.

Many pakistanis have been accusing israel and mossad for supporting the terrorists fighting against pakistan.Just one question,have pakistani army got any evidence even remotely indicating the involvement of israel/mossad?If not then stop accusing israel for problems in your country atleast until you get some tangible proofs to tell the world.
 
Many pakistanis have been accusing israel and mossad for supporting the terrorists fighting against pakistan.Just one question,have pakistani army got any evidence even remotely indicating the involvement of israel/mossad?If not then stop accusing israel for problems in your country atleast until you get some tangible proofs to tell the world.


Most members here speak rubbish Israel has nothing to do with Pakistan as long as it will live us alone
Pakistan is full of teror and poor political heritage
 
Most members here speak rubbish Israel has nothing to do with Pakistan as long as it will live us alone
Pakistan is full of teror and poor political heritage

the difference is that we are facing terrorists and on the other hand you are the terrorists lol
 
poor political heritage? what the hell does that mean?

this poor baby is crying that pakistan is playing poor politics by not accepting israel existance from day one, so poor political heritage..
 
Try and make a better Pakistan...... less poverty better education
more freedom for you people and less blood in the streets and mind your own problems before waging war on Israel on
behalf of all the stupid Arabs!!!!






IDF ARMOR ??? ??????-??"?

Infact we are the ones who mind their own business but you people have been waging a war on us.
 
Try and make a better Pakistan...... less poverty better education

that comes through proper leadership whereby leaders have long-term thinking and are less focused on day-to-day survivability and self-interests

poverty exists all over the world......at independence, Pakistan was the poorest it had ever been. We had NOTHING. We have come a long way.



more freedom for you people and less blood in the streets

Freedom is no problem in Pakistan.

If you ask me, there is too much freedom in this country. I can guarantee you that there is MUCH more freedom in Pakistan than there is in israel.

MUCH more.

And I'm serious when I say it.

and mind your own problems before waging war on Israel on behalf of all the stupid Arabs!!!!

apart from sending volunteer pilots in 67 and 73 to help defend predominately Muslim Arabs, when did we wage war on israel?

it was israel that was planning to attack Pakistan's nuclear facilities. Because of Pakistan intelligence agencies (and, admittedly, American intervention) --- your plans were exposed and never carried through.


and you labelling Arabs as ''stupid'' just shows the mentality of some of the israelis......You look down on them as if their lives are cheap, and you are above them.


Please fix your thinking, and learn to co-exist with others. It is israel that is in defiance of international laws, and even the U.S. is becoming vocal against your netanyahu administration (not that it will make any difference)
 

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