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Pakistan and Israel

to be honest with you, i just want some of their weapons.

lol


actually one of my main problems with them is that they think they invented hummous and baba ghannoush! (which is bullshit)


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Sir ji first of all to thank you for making that remark as I badly wanted to thank some one cause I was stuck at 666. :woot:


secondly you are right, as they keep on competing with the Lebanese for the best hommous and the funny part is that the ones making it for them are the Arabs.
 
welll but we each other di like each other alot because they can never ever even in hell be our friend
 
Indians already have good relation with all Muslim states apart from pakistan... the issues with bangladesh are getting resolved. we already have huge trade with middle east. we are the third largest muslim population and a secular nation. how can we be again our own people.

but on the same grounds we are not against jews either. they also are our friends. they suffer terrorism in the same way as we suffer. Things take a very diffrent perspective when they are seen from the lens of Islamic terrorism which has nothing islamic about it. but this creates a divide showing that indians are aginst muslims and muslims are against indians just because of a word.

As far as palestine is considered we want a peaceful solution which cannot be achieved either by firing rockets into Israel nor by military offensives from Israel... we have been involved palestine as well as with Israel both. so our stand is neutral in this regard though we want peace in the region. but it is upto the people of israel and palestine to decide on how to achieve it. Indians would be the first one if both them carve out a peaceful solutions to support.

You are talking about Palestine, and what about India's alledged occupation on the Kashmir and massacare of more then 50,000 kashmiri people by your army. Are people of India, who love peace and dont want war are sleeping over human right violations by your forces.
 
In my opinion, Israel will never see genuine peace until its neighbors are willing to discuss not only how small Israel should be, but how big Israel should be as well. Remember, Israel is only 11,000 square miles if you include the Golan, West Bank, and Gaza, whereas the lands dominated by Arabs (where Jews lived before they were kicked out) currently total about five hundred times greater. (The original League of Nations plan for a Jewish homeland included Jordan, too.)

The size of Israel may be small but it cannot occupy land illegally to make it large. Singapore, Brunie and Kuwait are small so they should land grab to make it big. If Israel is small and other countries big that is not even in question. Kuwait should capture Saudi Arabian territory because SA has 3000 times more land, concept does not make any sense.

I believe in the Quran more and more now since it does state the history of Ban-i-Israel, how food use to come from heaven for them and how they will be scattered and then come together and how they will end up. Israel having an arrogant attitude is good for us since Israel's end days would come sooner than later including the return of the Christ.
 
When the religious Israelis and Pakistanis covertly joined against a common atheist enemy:


Most of the Afghan war against the Soviet Union was fought using Israeli arms supplied after General Ziaul Haq entered into secret deals with Tel Aviv, says a recently published book, Charlie Wilson’s War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History.

The book reveals that the Pakistan Army was not averse to secret defence cooperation with Israel, although it did not acknowledge any contact with that country publicly. Congressman Charles Wilson — a pro-Pakistan activist and the central figure to get CIA-funded weapons for Pakistan — is credited in the 550-page book as the man who broke up the Soviet Union with the help of a 48-year old Houston woman “whom General Ziaul Haq fancied”.

The book claims that Wilson asked Zia to deal with the Israelis during his first visit to US after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The proposal was made at a grand dinner hosted by the Houston lady, Joanne Herring, who was later named as Honorary Consul of Pakistan.

The book says that Charlie Wilson informed Zia the Israelis had shown him the “vast stores of Soviet weapons they had captured from the PLO in Lebanon”. The weapons were perfect for the mujahideen. If Wilson could convince the CIA to buy them, would Zia have any problems passing them on to the Afghans? Zia, ever the pragmatist, smiled, saying, “Just don’t put any Stars of David on the boxes”.

“With that encouragement,” the narrative goes on, “Wilson pushed on. Just the previous month, he had learned that the Israelis were secretly upgrading the Chinese army’s Russian-designed T-55 tanks. In Islamabad, he had been startled to see that the Chinese were supplying Pakistan with T-55s. The congressman now proposed that Zia enter into a similar secret arrangement with the Israelis.

“It was no simple proposition. Three years earlier, a mere rumor that Israel had been involved in an attack on the Great Mosque in Mecca had so radicalized the Pakistani Muslim population that thousands had stormed the US embassy in Pakistan and burned it to the ground. Zia was mindful of his people’s hatred for both Israel and the United States [but] he encouraged Wilson to continue.”

The Congressman cut the Pak-Israel deal “even without CIA knowledge”. The CIA man in Islamabad, Howard Hart, when asked years later, if he knew about Wilson’s efforts to bring the Israelis into the Afghan war, dismissed the story out of hand, insisting that the Pakistanis would never have permitted it. Yet, an astonishing collection of weapons was developed for the Afghan war in no time. The Spanish mortar, for example, was designed to make it possible for the mujahideen to communicate directly with American navigation satellites to deliver repeated rounds within inches of their designated targets.

The weapon’s name was chosen to conceal the fact that major portions of the gun were being built by the Israelis, claims the book.

It was decided that a new weapon would be introduced into the battle every three months or so, in order to bluff the Red Army into thinking their enemy was better armed and supported than it was.

The book has been selling well in the USA but is still not available in Pakistan.

Source: Daily Times Monitor

pakistan still have relations with Israel and i hope it will come to media,,,,pakistan should accept israel and start trades with her...
 
U r right. One (or at most, three) pak nuke can destroy Israel, but do u think for a sec there'll be a Pakistan left to rejoice wiping out Israel? Aside from the hundreds of Israeli nukes, you can rest assured there'll be US nukes falling in pakistan as well.

And if Indo-Israeli relations grow and we sign a military pact, u can add Indian nukes to that list.

In the end, a total lose-lose situation!

India can not sign a pact with Israel,,if she does,,,then 20000000 muslims in india will kick india's *** so we dont need to worry about india then. Including whole muslim world..
 
@ pakistani bro,,
pakistan army cant attack israel or cant even help any muslims against israel..
They are the slaves of jewish american lobbist..
 
@ pakistani bro,,
pakistan army cant attack israel or cant even help any muslims against israel..
They are the slaves of jewish american lobbist..

Pakistan should accept israel and maintains peace with them..
There is no Ummah here...
OIC,,Ohhh I see...
Pakistan army, beaureucrats and politicians should stop israel bashing..because we dont need to play with the emotions of pakistani that we can kick israel ***..
They (Army, politicians, beareucrats) are very good friends of isreal so stop trolling in media..
Sorry bros but above are very true and we have to accept it...
 
All pakistani generals are working for CIA and they get the upper ranks with the approval of CIA..
 
"They (Army, politicians, beareucrats) are very good friends of isreal so stop trolling in media..
Sorry bros but above are very true and we have to accept it..."

might be few hundred of army men,politicians etc..
oh but rest of the 170 million population is not a very good friend :)

have you even heard of palestine ? gaza ? flotilla ?

Muslims are nothing except brothers...problems of pakistan is our immediate concern and priority then we will be able to help any one else...but it doesnt mean that palestine problem is not our problem..

and again all above holds true if you are a muslim :)
just reminding people the basic concept of islam..no preaching...
 
India can not sign a pact with Israel,,if she does,,,then 20000000 muslims in india will kick india's *** so we dont need to worry about india then. Including whole muslim world..

BTW who gave u the right to decide on behalf of the Indian Muslims..?..btw its not 20 mil ..its abt 130 mils....Get ur facts straight.
 
In Islamic Kyrgyzstan the Kyrgz are salughtering the Uzbeks by the thousands and so far I see no out rage by Pakistan or any other Islamic County as long as Muslims are killing Muslems no one seems to mind...Is it possible that the outrage over the Palestinians including the recent Aid Shipments has to do more with Racism an Religious Bigotry then any thing else. :usflag:
 
In Islamic Kyrgyzstan the Kyrgz are salughtering the Uzbeks by the thousands and so far I see no out rage by Pakistan or any other Islamic County as long as Muslims are killing Muslems no one seems to mind...Is it possible that the outrage over the Palestinians including the recent Aid Shipments has to do more with Racism an Religious Bigotry then any thing else. :usflag:

Aaahhhhh the usual pro-Zionists card being played.

If Muslims do this to each other, why ask Israel.

Here read this and the reasons for the clashes and so far hardly less then 100 people have died, not the thousands (as usual exaggerated figures by Zionists) quoted by you.
 
Aaahhhhh the usual pro-Zionists card being played.

If Muslims do this to each other, why ask Israel.

Here read this and the reasons for the clashes and so far hardly less then 100 people have died, not the thousands (as usual exaggerated figures by Zionists) quoted by you.

Your right on the numbers, at least so far, but why all the hate for Israel when Muslims murder Muslims with such enthusiasm even in Pakistan. Even when Saddam was murdering the Kurdish women and children by the thousands with chemical weapons I dont remember any Islamic Countries being that upset.
 
brother captain america, are you by any chance comparing palestine and uzbeks issues ?
whats happening in palestine is being done by state of israel,sponsored by govt of israel.*

in kyrghztan its being done by set of people, and govt is trying to stop it

can u spot the difference ? i dont think you cant :)*

Regards,
Junaid

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