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Pakistan must not give India MFN status

Posted on 24 November 2010

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Dumping means dropping goods below cost so that the industry of the local industry can be destroyed. Then the foreign entity can have a monopoly for decades to come.

There is tremendous pressure on Pakistan to open up its markets to Bharat so that it can begin dumping its shoddy goods on the Pakistani market. Pakistani industries already hurt by load-shedding and other external factors. Many analysts believe that many of the TTP attacks on Pakistan are Bharati inspired.

Islamabad has opened up the Pakistani market to Bharti films. However Bharat does not import Pakistani movies or TV dramas. A similar situation will occur if MFN status is given to Bharat. The increase is trade would in fact be a burden on the Pakistanis, as the $10 billion would be to Bharat’s advantage. This has been resisted for the past sixty years. There is no reason to allow commercial encroachment by Bharat. The Bhrati IT industry is worth $50 billion but it does not use Pakistan talent either in Pakistan or overseas.

Bharati companies will begin dumping shoddy Bharati goods on the Paksitani consumer. Large Bharati companies will target Pakistani companies and industries that are vulnerable–thus destroying them. Japan started with steel and them moved up the pacman chain and took over a large section of the US market.

Pakistan cannot allow this Bharati terror to encroach into Pakistan.

New Delhi, Nov 24: Even as ties between India and Pakistan remain frosty, India Wednesday told a visiting 12-member Pakistani trade delegation that Islamabad should grant New Delhi Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status and called for a five-fold increase in bilateral trade.

Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao said India hoped that the Pakistan government would implement the recommendations of the Panel of Economists appointed by the Pakistan Planning Commission and urged Islamabad to accord MFN status to India.

Rao also asked Pakistan to shift from a positive list of imports to a negative list regime to achieve a five-fold increase in bilateral trade from $2 billion to $10 billion.

Rao was inaugurating a FICCI conference on ‘India-Pakistan Economic Relations: Prospects & Challenges’.

Rao assured business leaders of India’s commitment to facilitating greater economic cooperation and integration between India and Pakistan and the South Asia region.

Rao said that to improve infrastructure and streamline and harmonise customs procedures at the land borders, India was setting up a modern integrated check post at the India-Pakistan border at Attari for trade facilitation. This is expected to be ready by April 2011.

She pressed for the opening up of more rail and road routes and expanding the existing capacities on operational routes. ‘As things stand, Pakistan allows only the import of about 110 items from India through the land route, while it allows the export of only one item, cement, to India by the road route.’

Pakistan should permit all permissible items for trade via the Attari-Wagah route, she added.

The Pakistani delegation, led by Sultan Ahmed Chawla, president, Federation of Pakistan Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FPCCI), interacted with top Indian businessmen and pressed for escalating bilateral trade between the two countries.

Chawla called for removal of non-trade barriers by India and facilitation of movement of people across borders. ‘We would request that instead of raising issues related to NTBs (non-tariff barriers) in a generalized manner, it would be more useful if specific instances can be brought to our notice, which are found to be specifically discriminatory for Pakistani exports to India,’ said Rao.

‘There is no discrimination against Pakistani exports because the same standards are being applied for imports from any other country,’ she pointed out.

Rao stressed that India and Pakistan have complementarities in their economies which can create a ‘win-win’ situation for all sides. Listing out areas of mutually beneficial cooperation, Rao said: ‘We only have to seize them by rising above our political differences for the welfare of our two people.’

The Pakistani delegation called on Commerce and Industry Minister Anand Sharma Tuesday. The delegation informed Sharma of the ‘existing lacunae in the two-way trade and suggested some measures for improvement’, said a statement from the Pakistan high commission Wednesday.

‘The minister assured the delegation of removing the impediments in the smooth running of trade activity between the two countries and expressed the hope that the bilateral trade will substantially increase in the years to come,’ said the high commission.

The delegation felt that the trade between India and Pakistan could be balanced if the tariff and non-tariff barriers are removed by the Indian side.

They also met Pakistan’s High Commissioner Shahid Malik Tuesday.

This is the first visit by a Pakistani business delegation since the July 15 talks between the foreign ministers of the two countries broke down over a host of issues, including terrorism and Kashmir. Trade diplomacy: India presses Pakistan for MFN status. 2010-11-24 20:40:00. Masters in Diplomacy. Earn a Masters in Diplomacy Online at Norwich University. www.Norwich.Edu/Diplomacy. (IANS)

It is not in Pakistan’s strategic interests to allow Bharati imports. It is not in Pakistan’s industrial or commercial interests to allow shoddy Bharati imports.

Pakistan must not give India MFN status | Pakistan Independent
 
i am pretty sure... that only a very conservative journalist (or is conspirator) could have written that... very short sighted analysis..

y dont they understand that MFN is both the ways... pakistan can also dump their goods in India... either way it aint going to effect us much...
 
Yeah..Protecting local industry ( for example sugar mills ) has paid real rich dividends for 60 years..continue doing that and yes..Best of luck...:hitwall::hitwall:
 
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Pakistan should give india MFN status and dumping can be controlled by select tarrifs and quotas. Imagine all the India auto mobile and two wheeler industry potential in Pakistan. At least we will get rid of 70's mehran and 80's cultus, corolla, etc etc..Pakistan is in serious need for upgrade to its auto industry. Also we can develop our services and heavy mechanical industry in collaboration with the Indians due to lower language barrier. Then is the education and medical sector which is in dire need of manpower and training.

The only people scared of trade relations with India are our feudal industrial lords who are growing their wealth day and night by sucking the nation through their primary control of agriculture and secondary control of rice, sugar, flour etc etc mills. Its a classic capitalistic corruption Mao has envisioned to fight against and the Jews have dreamed to implement.
 
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Pakistan should give india MFN status and dumping can be controlled by select tarrifs and quotas. Imagine all the India auto mobile and two wheeler industry potential in Pakistan. At least we will get rid of 70's mehran and 80's cultus, corolla, etc etc..Pakistan is in serious need for upgrade to its auto industry. Also we can develop our services and heavy mechanical industry in collaboration with the Indians due to lower language barrier. Then is the education and medical sector which is in dire need of manpower and training.

yaar bozo......u seem a lot impressed with india auto industry...... har jagah sirf indian cars ka hi zikr karte ho.....:lol::P
 
yaar bozo......u seem a lot impressed with india auto industry...... har jagah sirf indian cars ka hi zikr karte ho.....:lol::P

Its not about impression but value for money. Imagine Pakistani are one of the highest payers for their automobiles and what they are getting is either 70-80's era local manufactured clones or sub-standard Chinese clones. Come on, we have now "just" begun the initiative to replace 40 odd years old Italian two stroke vespacar (rickshaws) and guess what they are being replaced?? rickshaws again..this time Chinese one..i mean come on..where is the local innovation?? Nowadays even golf carts can be had with electric motors and solar panels. At least someone was there in India to envision the Nano.. we are stuck in the same legacy British left us with..they taught us three wheelers as mode of transport and we are dragging on with the same thing 63 years on. A lot of local so-called "motor companies" as every tom dick and harry likes to label himself are doing nothing but importing sub-standing Toyota / Isuzu clones from China and bolting them down locally while the consumers are being duped to pay their life savings for it. Same is the story with so called local bike manufacturers. No innovation only copy paste thanks to China. The best thing i feel in opening trade with India is the death of all the snake-oil motor companies. People can simply take a train/bus across the border, buy a car/bike, pay the tax on border and live happily ever after. Both countries being right hand drive countries. Such advantage cannot be realized with China since its a left hand drive country. Then is the vast potential of used card re-export from India, being a very large market of consumers.

Nothing against the Chinese, they will obviously sell what our traders request and in our case they scourge for the cheapest cost product.

It sickening to see "vintage" vehicle designs still dragging on Pakistani streets particularly around Karachi which is supposedly the international trade hub of Pakistan.

Lets keep trade and business out of politics.
 
Its not about impression but value for money. Imagine Pakistani are one of the highest payers for their automobiles and what they are getting is either 70-80's era local manufactured clones or sub-standard Chinese clones. Come on, we have now "just" begun the initiative to replace 40 odd years old Italian two stroke vespacar (rickshaws) and guess what they are being replaced?? rickshaws again..this time Chinese one..i mean come on..where is the local innovation?? Nowadays even golf carts can be had with electric motors and solar panels. At least someone was there in India to envision the Nano.. we are stuck in the same legacy British left us with..they taught us three wheelers as mode of transport and we are dragging on with the same thing 63 years on. A lot of local so-called "motor companies" as every tom dick and harry likes to label himself are doing nothing but importing sub-standing Toyota / Isuzu clones from China and bolting them down locally while the consumers are being duped to pay their life savings for it. Same is the story with so called local bike manufacturers. No innovation only copy paste thanks to China. The best thing i feel in opening trade with India is the death of all the snake-oil motor companies. People can simply take a train/bus across the border, buy a car/bike, pay the tax on border and live happily ever after. Both countries being right hand drive countries. Such advantage cannot be realized with China since its a left hand drive country. Then is the vast potential of used card re-export from India, being a very large market of consumers.

Nothing against the Chinese, they will obviously sell what our traders request and in our case they scourge for the cheapest cost product.

It sickening to see "vintage" vehicle designs still dragging on Pakistani streets particularly around Karachi which is supposedly the international trade hub of Pakistan.

Lets keep trade and business out of politics.

dude, loved ur post....u have an awesome management and business sense. i am from an IIM and i can sense what u intend to say. frankly, ur idea of used can market from pakistan was impressive. the reason for that is exchange rate between us is 45/80.

just imagine how much cheap a used car for an indian will be if he buys from pakistan.

and vice versa for pakistanis for new car market......obviously it wud be a little costly as per exchange rate but they wud get the best Return of value from india. ur whole (Sales - COGS) factor is too high this tym...... which shoots ur slaes value even if its not worth.....

open trade with india will be a boon for u guyz in case of new cars.....

Nice post !:tup:
 
Pakistan should give india MFN status and dumping can be controlled by select tarrifs and quotas. Imagine all the India auto mobile and two wheeler industry potential in Pakistan. At least we will get rid of 70's mehran and 80's cultus, corolla, etc etc..Pakistan is in serious need for upgrade to its auto industry. Also we can develop our services and heavy mechanical industry in collaboration with the Indians due to lower language barrier. Then is the education and medical sector which is in dire need of manpower and training.

The only people scared of trade relations with India are our feudal industrial lords who are growing their wealth day and night by sucking the nation through their primary control of agriculture and secondary control of rice, sugar, flour etc etc mills. Its a classic capitalistic corruption Mao has envisioned to fight against and the Jews have dreamed to implement.

Positivity is always the way to go!
 
If somebozo is rightthen, ofcourse it will be good for Pakistan also...but as I said..its will be good if Pakistan gives the MFN status...but if doesnt, there is no loss for India.
 
India has already granted MFN to Pakistan several years ago...

Pakistan imports Indian goods (sugar cotton and other) through Dubai (paying more thru middleman)

Let the Pak awam have inexpensive items of thier choice, GOP should not come in between.

One example: Pakistan does not manufacture A/C compressors and imports polish ones, whereas India has them at cheaper price...
 
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Dumping means dropping goods below cost so that the industry of the local industry can be destroyed. Then the foreign entity can have a monopoly for decades to come.
That never happened in India. Our local industries made them self more competitive and they improved lot (e.g. Automobile )
There is tremendous pressure on Pakistan to open up its markets to Bharat so that it can begin
dumping its shoddy goods on the Pakistani market. Pakistani industries already hurt by load-shedding and other external factors.
Want to do product to product comparison on quality
Many analysts believe that many of the TTP attacks on Pakistan are Bharati inspired.
Man you made my morning :rofl::rofl::rofl: talk about MFN status and for TTP and attacks talk to your Interior minister

Islamabad has opened up the Pakistani market to Bharti films. However Bharat does not import Pakistani movies or TV dramas.
for consumption you guys need to produce something.Budget of latest movie of Rajnikanth is more than entire Lolly-wood. And we are consuming or inviting many of your good talent in Bollywood from Pakistan A similar situation will occur if MFN status is given to Bharat. The increase is trade would in fact be a burden on the Pakistanis, as the $10 billion would be to Bharat’s advantage. This has been resisted for the past sixty years. There is no reason to allow commercial encroachment by Bharat.
The Bhrati IT industry is worth $50 billion but it does not use Pakistan talent either in Pakistan or overseas.
To use Pakistani talent in Pakistan give our companies to setup operations in Pakistan and security. Go yo USA and Dubai many Pakistani people are working in Indian company or vice a versa. Pay check don't know nationality

Bharati companies will begin dumping shoddy Bharati goods on the Paksitani consumer.:hitwall: Large Bharati companies will target Pakistani companies and industries that are vulnerable–thus destroying them. Japan started with steel and them moved up the pacman chain and took over a large section of the US market.

Pakistan cannot allow this Bharati terror to encroach into Pakistan.:hitwall::hitwall:

and one more thing ..when you guys called us Bharati .. I love that ..
We all have to learn from somebozo with right, balanced and positive attitude we can at least go forward some steps...

Hai Preet Jahan Ki Reet Sada
Maein Geet Wahan Ke Gaata Hoon
Bharat Ka Rehnewala Hoon
Bharat Ki Baat Sunata Hoon
 
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