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WASHINGTON -- While the United States struggles to rein in Iran's nuclear ambitions, a more frightening nightmare is simmering right now in Pakistan, where a weak but nuclear-armed government is being buffeted by radical Islamist influences, terrorism and several bloody insurgencies.

Among all the perils the U.S. faces, "Pakistan is the most horrific and the hardest one to do anything about," said Charles D. Furguson, a senior nuclear proliferation expert at the Council on Foreign Relations who served as a naval officer on a nuclear missile submarine.

The nation does not have enough troops to speedily and simultaneously "lock down" all of Pakistan's nuclear weapons sites if that became necessary because of civil strife, an attempted coup or a terrorist attack, officials and outside analysts said.

The president's only option might be nuclear -- a desperate attempt to destroy Pakistan's weapons rather than risk their falling into terrorists' hands and ultimately detonating in an American city.

"To date we don't have anything that can get there quickly, except for a nuclear weapon," Assistant Defense Secretary Peter C.W. Flory told a panel of the Senate Armed Services Committee March 29. He was speaking generally about targeting terrorists in possession of nuclear weapons, not about Pakistan in particular.

By "quickly," officials mean one to four hours. "For that small, highly important set of targets ... a goal we have set is to be able to address those targets in one hour anyplace" with ballistic missiles, Marine Gen. James E. Cartwright, who commands all U.S. strategic missiles and bombers, told the senators.

Pakistan's loss of control over some or all of its nuclear weapons has been quietly discussed and war-gamed at senior levels in the Defense Department. But given the political sensitivity of discussing possible armed intervention in an allied country, Pentagon officials declined to answer questions. A spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Tracy O'Grady-Walsh, said, "Unclassified answers do not exist."

Though Pakistan is considered a close ally in the war on terrorism, its military and secret intelligence service have worked closely with radical Islamist insurgents operating in Kashmir, and with al-Qaida and the Taliban in next-door Afghanistan prior to Sept. 11, 2001. Starting that fall, the United States began using Pakistan as a major base for the war in Afghanistan and demanded that Pakistan cut its ties with Islamist groups.

Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who seized power in a 1999 coup, has tried since 2001 to gingerly rein in domestic Islamists who are violently opposed to Pakistan's cooperation with the United States. Musharraf's dilemma, analysts said, is to respond to U.S. pressure without provoking an open revolt.

Last month Musharraf launched operations against jihadists along the Afghan border, where they have long operated openly; a few days later a terrorist suicide bomber detonated a bomb near the U.S. consulate in Karachi, killing American diplomat David Foy among others.

Pakistan announced in May 1998 that it had successfully conducted five nuclear tests. It is thought to have between 30 and 52 nuclear bombs and missile warheads, according to data compiled by the Natural Resources Defense Council, a nonprofit research organization in Washington.

Pakistan is not as unstable as it sounds, said Ashley J. Tellis, who recently directed strategic planning for South Asia in the White House and was a senior adviser to the U.S. ambassador to India. The Pakistani military has tight control over its nuclear weapons and it is "highly unlikely" that anything could crack that control, said Tellis, currently at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.

But the risk must be considered, because failure would mean a "stealthy" terrorist nuclear attack on the United States, said John Gordon, a retired Army officer who is a strategic analyst at RAND Corp., a nonprofit think tank that works primarily for the Pentagon.

"If you fail to secure nuclear weapons in a country that may be torn by a civil war, coup attempt or insurgency, you fail massively," Gordon said.

There has been little public discussion of the issue, he said, because "it is painful to think through a problem like this. The nuclear thing is still in a really hard-to-do box."

According to analyses by operations experts, it would require tens of thousands of American troops to "kick in the door" and seize Pakistan's nuclear sites. The United States has neither the troops nor the airlift capacity to get to Pakistan within days, let alone the hours required in a crisis.

"We lack the military capability," said Bruce Nardulli, a specialist in ground warfare at RAND. "These sites would have to be brought down and secured, locked down, simultaneously, in the middle of a huge conflict and among a hostile population. You'd need an army much larger than what you have today."

The United States currently has 176,125 soldiers and Marines deployed in world hotspots, including 21,775 in Afghanistan and 131,350 assigned to Iraq, according to a recent count provided by the Army Operations Center at the Pentagon.

Army Col. Chris Hughes, director of the operations center, said there are "sufficient forces on alert" to handle any crisis. Those forces include a 6,000-man "ready brigade" of the 82nd Airborne Division designed to launch within 72 hours, said Maj. Tom Earnhardt, a division spokesman.

But some believe a Pakistan mission could demand more, faster.

Pakistan's nuclear weapons are believed to be kept, disassembled, at six separate missile and air bases. Other sites would have to be guarded in a crisis, including the nuclear reactor facility at Joharabad and the Kahuta uranium enrichment facility in northern Pakistan, which is believed to be producing plutonium.

Finding and securing such sites is a mission shared among the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, the U.S. Special Operations Command and the U.S. Strategic Command under Gen. Cartwright. It requires fresh and precise intelligence, something the United States lacked in Iraq and elsewhere, U.S. officials acknowledge.

"We've been surprised before," Flory said in his Senate testimony.

The U.S. Special Operations Command declined a request for interviews. But others think an operation to secure Pakistan's nuclear weapons is beyond the reach of a few teams of commandos.

U.S. intervention could be complicated by opposition from elements of Pakistan's army, which is slightly larger than the U.S. Army. Pakistan's military is considered highly professional and well equipped, and has well developed air defenses that would make a U.S. air assault or paratroop landing risky.

"We'd be swallowed up in that country," said George Friedman, author of "America's Secret War" and founder of Strategic Forecasting Inc., a private intelligence firm.

"We'd have tremendous difficulty occupying it with speed, we'd have tremendous difficulty supplying our forces -- there are large cities and terrifically bad terrain, and we don't have enough troops," Friedman said.

"I can't think of a worse place to fight."

Problems like this never arose during the Cold War because both the United States and Soviet Union had secure nuclear forces and because each held the other in the thrall of mutual deterrence: If one side attacked, it would be vulnerable to a devastating nuclear retaliation.

But if Pakistan's nuclear weapons got loose, "deterrence" would be useless. Whom would the United States threaten with destruction?

If a nuclear bomb were detonated in Manhattan, "You'd have to know, did it happen with the approval of the (Pakistani) government, or was it a rogue within the government, or was it stolen?" Furguson said.

"Do you still bomb Islamabad in retaliation," he said, "especially if we don't have clear evidence they did it?"

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Belive me you all !! Pakistan is systematically encircled by these ***** of Democracy, just for this objective. The objective is very clear !! ELIMINATE COMPLETELY THE ONLY MUSLIM STATE WITH NUKES FROM THE PLANET !! Iran is pursued because of these objectives. Eliminating Iran would serve many purpose, primarily, potential nuclear Iran and presenting another USA front at the third side of Pakistan. They are already in Afghanistan, and you know well about India !! So two sides are already covered. If they can present themselves in Iran then Pakistan is DOOMED !! GONE !! This is why I insist that Musharraf is doing the most horrible blunder when he refuse Pakistan be a party to the IRAN nuke talks held by 6 major powers. IRAN borders pakistan and it is a direct matter of security for Pakistan !! Pakistanmust give security gaurantee to Iran if US of A is THREATENING IRAN !! This is the only option that Pakistan have NOW !!! If not, then ALLAH save them !! MUSHARRAF Blunders will be rememebered in world history as most lethal for Muslim Ummah !!!
Kashif


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I agree.we must not trust the west as they have never given us the reson to Trust them
 
Belive me you all !! Pakistan is systematically encircled by these Bastards of Democracy, just for this objective. The objective is very clear !! ELIMINATE COMPLETELY THE ONLY MUSLIM STATE WITH NUKES FROM THE PLANET !! Iran is pursued because of these objectives. Eliminating Iran would serve many purpose, primarily, potential nuclear Iran and presenting another USA front at the third side of Pakistan. They are already in Afghanistan, and you know well about India !! So two sides are already covered. If they can present themselves in Iran then Pakistan is DOOMED !! GONE !! This is why I insist that Musharraf is doing the most horrible blunder when he refuse Pakistan be a party to the IRAN nuke talks held by 6 major powers. IRAN borders pakistan and it is a direct matter of security for Pakistan !! Pakistan must give security gaurantee to Iran if US of A is THREATENING IRAN !! This is the only option that Pakistan have NOW !!! If not, then ALLAH save them !! MUSHARRAF Blunders will be rememebered in world history as most lethal for Muslim Ummah !!!
Kashif

Control yourself man! You are acting like an hysterical neurotic. Try to grasp reality, it might even make sense to you. Just think occasionally without over emoting. NOT everyone in the rest of the world hates Islam, but if there are vast numbers of clones who have been brainwashed in the same way as yourself, then the time will eventually come when you run out of friends.
 
NOT everyone in the rest of the world hates Islam, but if there are vast numbers of clones who have been brainwashed.

But vast number of people close of majority do..... damn FOX...
 
Control yourself man! You are acting like an hysterical neurotic. Try to grasp reality, it might even make sense to you. Just think occasionally without over emoting. NOT everyone in the rest of the world hates Islam, but if there are vast numbers of clones who have been brainwashed in the same way as yourself, then the time will eventually come when you run out of friends.

yeah but the once that make decisions do.
 
Control yourself man! You are acting like an hysterical neurotic. Try to grasp reality, it might even make sense to you. Just think occasionally without over emoting. NOT everyone in the rest of the world hates Islam, but if there are vast numbers of clones who have been brainwashed in the same way as yourself, then the time will eventually come when you run out of friends.

So you are the actual representative of these ## OF DEMOCRACY !!!
Have a good time here !! :bunny:

Uncle SAM is a democracy. Uncle's pet cat UK is a democracy !! So are all the so called 'Coalition Partners' !! So also the so called damned bastards of 'International Community' !!

And we muslims know it very well that in so called 'DEMOCRACY' the rule of land is by the 'MAJORITY' among the 'Common Man and Women' !! Don't it is !! So all these Bastards Of Democracy (BoD in short from now onwards) represent the majority view !!

By the way who the hell in muslim world thinks that Muslims have friends in West ?? King Abdullah?? Egypt leadership?? Saudi puppets?? They are a handfull bunch of tyrants west have !!
Kashif
 
So you are the actual representative of these ## OF DEMOCRACY !!!
Have a good time here !! :bunny:

Uncle SAM is a democracy. Uncle's pet cat UK is a democracy !! So are all the so called 'Coalition Partners' !! So also the so called damned bastards of 'International Community' !!

And we muslims know it very well that in so called 'DEMOCRACY' the rule of land is by the 'MAJORITY' among the 'Common Man and Women' !! Don't it is !! So all these Bastards Of Democracy (BoD in short from now onwards) represent the majority view !!

By the way who the hell in muslim world thinks that Muslims have friends in West ?? King Abdullah?? Egypt leadership?? Saudi puppets?? They are a handfull bunch of tyrants west have !!
Kashif


You are obviously the self-appointed speaker for the entire Islamic world then, and your hobbies are collecting chips to put on your shoulders and finding ENEMIES (real or imagined), right? You make many posts from a variety of sources provided primarily that
a )they are boringly long and b)can be seen as anti-western or anti-democratic.
As the younger generation say, get a life! Who needs all this hatred ? By the way have you ever served in uniform for your country ?
 
Anyways, the article clearly is written in a way that makes me want to believe the author infact was blindfolded towards other parts of the world from where the risk of nuclear weapons falling in to the wrong hands could be greater. Hint: RUSSIA.

In ANY possible scenario, it is a thousand times more likely that the Russian mafia could easily procure the materials and the know-how to make 'dirty' bombs, selling them to terrorists almost unhindered by anyone than Pakistan's nukes falling in to the wrong hands. Go figure!
 
You are obviously the self-appointed speaker for the entire Islamic world then, and your hobbies are collecting chips to put on your shoulders and finding ENEMIES (real or imagined), right? You make many posts from a variety of sources provided primarily that
a )they are boringly long and b)can be seen as anti-western or anti-democratic.
As the younger generation say, get a life! Who needs all this hatred ? By the way have you ever served in uniform for your country ?

I never claimed the myself to be an appointed leader of the community !!
But these BoD DO CLAIM this !! They are self appointed leaders of democracy, freedom, human rights champion !! BLAH BLAH .....
For your kind information you were talking about democracy !! Not it is !! Then why suddenly to jump to Uniform !!
For your Kind Information I am MILLITARY AGE MAN !!! :bunny:
Kashif
 
Anyways, the article clearly is written in a way that makes me want to believe the author infact was blindfolded towards other parts of the world from where the risk of nuclear weapons falling in to the wrong hands could be greater. Hint: RUSSIA.

In ANY possible scenario, it is a thousand times more likely that the Russian mafia could easily procure the materials and the know-how to make 'dirty' bombs, selling them to terrorists almost unhindered by anyone than Pakistan's nukes falling in to the wrong hands. Go figure!

100% right !! Russian nuclear sites and scientific community are already looking for BLACK market all over the world !! The US of A is going to loose its sleep as these black-marketeers are targeting Letin America as well !!
Kashif
 

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