Pakistan's Haider Main Battle Tank is deemed to be a 'smart tank'

[PakFactor]

I think Haider Tank is just renamed VT4 tank.
Army got some ToT with VT4s

I agree that's basically what this is.

 

[Ali_Baba]

IDEX 2023: Pakistan unveils its new local-made Haider MBT Main Battle Tank.

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License manufacture of the VT4?

 

[Signalian]

an air-to-ground tactical data-link system that enables the Haider to build its situational awareness based on sensor data taken from a GMTI-SAR.

This is in service for the Command/control/comms task.

 

[SQ8]

This is in service for the Command/control/comms task.

Low profile may eventually be the need of the day- the M-113 Dabba is about to run its course.

Although it is always interesting (based on my ignorance) that even the US Forces in Europe had M-113s as part of both screening elements and recon in force even when facing T-72s. Maybe @PanzerKiel can shed some light why the tin can is still pretty useful despite its relatively thin protection

 

[PanzerKiel]

Haider is basically building VT4 inside Pakistan.

 

[IblinI]

Haider is basically building VT4 inside Pakistan.

reasonable.

 

[PanzerKiel]

. Maybe @PanzerKiel can shed some light why the tin can is still pretty useful despite its relatively thin protection

Its more a problem of compatible mobility with armor spearheads. Armor ought to have mechanized infantry for its close protection, close support and speedy clearance of defended areas while foot infantry due to its inherent lack of mobility is not available. Now, the armor spearheads, since they are spearheading every attack, tend to face the heaviest fire of all calibres. Tanks are impervious to anti pers weapons and small arms, however, infantry can be decimated. Thats why APCs are there to give our infantry the mobility as well as the minimum protection upto 12.7 mm calibres.

Moreover, as per the US and Pak doctrine, APCs do not go more than 300-400 meters to the target. At this range, they stop, the infantry pours out and clears the objective like normal infantry. Once the objective area is cleared and mopped up, they again mount up and advance.

 

[SQ8]

Its more a problem of compatible mobility with armor spearheads. Armor ought to have mechanized infantry for its close protection, close support and speedy clearance of defended areas while foot infantry due to its inherent lack of mobility is not available. Now, the armor spearheads, since they are spearheading every attack, tend to face the heaviest fire of all calibres. Tanks are impervious to anti pers weapons and small arms, however, infantry can be decimated. Thats why APCs are there to give our infantry the mobility as well as the minimum protection upto 12.7 mm calibres.

Moreover, as per the US and Pak doctrine, APCs do not go more than 300-400 meters to the target. At this range, they stop, the infantry pours out and clears the objective like normal infantry. Once the objective area is cleared and mopped up, they again mount up and advance.

Are Pak M-113 used for recon in force?
Im considering the ATGM equipped ones going in taking out screening elements to asses strength but then backing off to a fallback position

 

[Super Falcon]

Army designers at texila did great job here

 

[Asian.Century]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706325190743916643

 

[khansaheeb]

Pakistan's Haider Main Battle Tank is deemed to be a 'smart tank' with reference to the idea of pairing a tank’s inherent firepower and defensive qualities within a network-centric warfare environment. Imagine a scenario where the Pakistan Army acquires an air-to-ground tactical data-link system that enables the Haider to build its situational awareness based on sensor data taken from a GMTI-SAR.

The Haider can serve as the offensive asset, and the al-Khalid can sit as a defensive or holding corps workhorse. Certain aspects of the Haider, such as the up-rated engine, newer armour technology, guided attack capabilities, and active protection suite could also be brought to the al-Khalid over the long-term.

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Is it smart enough to evade and defend itself from Drones and smart munitions? This is the need of the day.

 

[Dazzler]

Fabricated turrets are for Alzarrar. Prefabricated turret comes straight from Norinco for now. They play hard ball in tech sharing from time to time.

HIT is now pretty much independent in designing turret and hull of tank thanks to local industry support.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Low profile may eventually be the need of the day- the M-113 Dabba is about to run its course.

Although it is always interesting (based on my ignorance) that even the US Forces in Europe had M-113s as part of both screening elements and recon in force even when facing T-72s. Maybe @PanzerKiel can shed some light why the tin can is still pretty useful despite its relatively thin protection

Low Profile isnt relevent anymore tbh. American replacement for M113 (the AMPV) is much bigger and wider than the M113, same case for replacement of european IFVs e.g Marder vs Lynx, extreme size differences. Size of new gen combat vehicles only goes up not down.
Same case for wheeled APCs. E.g Comparing Piranha IV s Piranha V, or LAV25 vs LAV700 massive size increases.
Focus should rather be toward increased protection levels.