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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Which rifle should win the competition?

  • FN-SCAR-H

    Votes: 241 42.9%
  • Beretta ARX-200

    Votes: 62 11.0%
  • CZ-806 Bren2

    Votes: 116 20.6%
  • Kalashnikov AK-103

    Votes: 127 22.6%
  • Zavasta M21

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • Total voters
    562
Brother, just because we buy some of what we need does not mean we have unlimited money. If you buy milk and bread, may still mean you had no money for eggs. Your post does not make sense.

Army took decision that new tanks and proper protection for troops in FATA was a priority over new rifles. Also please note VT-4 would be subsidised and MRAP given to us as free EDA. New rifles will be our own money
Money was not the issue. We didn't started Rifle trials without calculating every move. Issue was one or two Guns which we liked their companies were not agreeing to local production.
 
Money was not the issue. We didn't started Rifle trials without calculating every move. Issue was one or two Guns which we liked their companies were not agreeing to local production.

You know that for 100% certainty?
 
can PA incorporate or get smart shooter technology from another source whenever a decision is made for a new gun for infantry ? It would give a real boost to infantry.
 
Will Pak once again buy a Chinese rifle like the 56? Pak buys a lot of Chinese weaponry so its not out of the question actually probably more likely than any other rifles. The new QBZ 191 seems to be very future proof and through strenuous testing seems to be a very legit rifle.

Standard-issue version of China’s QBZ-191 assault rifle revealed
Posted on April 15, 2020 by CAS editor1 Comment ↓


Since China’s new assault rifle appeared at the National Day military parade last year, which is likely named QBZ-191 or QBZ-19, it hasn’t been reported for a long time, but recently a video on the development team of the new rifle was released on the Chinese internet, and the standard-issue version of this new rifle is finally unveiled.
In this video, different versions of the QBZ-191 rifle make a quite complete family. Last year at the military parade we saw only one new version of it, and the overall length of the new gun is similar to QBZ-95. As a bullpup style assault rifle, QBZ-95 has the advantage of a long barrel, while the length of the barrel of the new rifle for the Chinese army seems similar to the 14.5-inch barrel of the US M4 carbine.
Most of the soldiers holding new guns during the military parade are mechanized infantry or special operations forces, which have high requirements for small-sized rifles, as short-barreled rifles are suitable for close combat and frequent loading and unloading. According to military analyst Junwu, the shorter barrel on the parade should be the short version of China’s new assault rifle.

In the above-mentioned video titled ” Models at the Central Enterprise”, there was a test image of a long-barrel version of QBZ-191. In addition, there was a long barrel rifle in an article published by “Light Weapons” magazine.

Standard version of QBZ-191 assault rifle being tested
The long barrel can provide a longer acceleration distance for the warhead, so that the bullet has a higher initial velocity, naturally it will also have greater energy, longer range, and greater penetration.
The long barrel is likely to be the standard-issue version of the new assault rifle of China’s QBZ-191, and it is likely to be used by Chinese field forces that are not sensitive to the size of the rifle.

Standard barrel version of QBZ-191

Shortened version rifle with retractable stock unlocked
In addition, a screenshot from the video shows that the development team was testing a new gun with a bipod in the 5,000-meter plateau, which has an even longer barrel than the standard-issue version of QBZ-191.

QBZ-191 rifle with a bipod
It can also be found from the picture that this model with a bipod barrel is much longer than the standard-issue version of the rifle, and the handguard part is fully distributed with a large number of heat dissipation holes, to allow quickly cooling of the barrel after continuous shooting. So Junwu thinks that this gun is the machine gun version of the new rifle, and it could be used in the future to replace type 95 machine gun.
Furthermore, a large-size optical pointing system is found in the video in the hands of the test team, which should be the sniper version of QBZ-191 – according to later information, this could be officially called “QBU-191 5.8mm precision rifle“.

This collimator should be used with the sniper version

Rumored picture of the sniper version of the new rifle
To sum up, QBZ-191 assault rifle should have 4 versions: shortened version, standard-issue version, light machine gun version and sniper version, which form a rifle family with different uses.
Besides, according to the “Light Weapons” magazine, the new QBZ-191 assault rifle is likely to adopt modular design, and some parts can be shared between the four rifle versions.
 
Will Pak once again buy a Chinese rifle like the 56? Pak buys a lot of Chinese weaponry so its not out of the question actually probably more likely than any other rifles. The new QBZ 191 seems to be very future proof and through strenuous testing seems to be a very legit rifle.

Standard-issue version of China’s QBZ-191 assault rifle revealed
Posted on April 15, 2020 by CAS editor1 Comment ↓


Since China’s new assault rifle appeared at the National Day military parade last year, which is likely named QBZ-191 or QBZ-19, it hasn’t been reported for a long time, but recently a video on the development team of the new rifle was released on the Chinese internet, and the standard-issue version of this new rifle is finally unveiled.
In this video, different versions of the QBZ-191 rifle make a quite complete family. Last year at the military parade we saw only one new version of it, and the overall length of the new gun is similar to QBZ-95. As a bullpup style assault rifle, QBZ-95 has the advantage of a long barrel, while the length of the barrel of the new rifle for the Chinese army seems similar to the 14.5-inch barrel of the US M4 carbine.
Most of the soldiers holding new guns during the military parade are mechanized infantry or special operations forces, which have high requirements for small-sized rifles, as short-barreled rifles are suitable for close combat and frequent loading and unloading. According to military analyst Junwu, the shorter barrel on the parade should be the short version of China’s new assault rifle.

In the above-mentioned video titled ” Models at the Central Enterprise”, there was a test image of a long-barrel version of QBZ-191. In addition, there was a long barrel rifle in an article published by “Light Weapons” magazine.

Standard version of QBZ-191 assault rifle being tested
The long barrel can provide a longer acceleration distance for the warhead, so that the bullet has a higher initial velocity, naturally it will also have greater energy, longer range, and greater penetration.
The long barrel is likely to be the standard-issue version of the new assault rifle of China’s QBZ-191, and it is likely to be used by Chinese field forces that are not sensitive to the size of the rifle.

Standard barrel version of QBZ-191

Shortened version rifle with retractable stock unlocked
In addition, a screenshot from the video shows that the development team was testing a new gun with a bipod in the 5,000-meter plateau, which has an even longer barrel than the standard-issue version of QBZ-191.

QBZ-191 rifle with a bipod
It can also be found from the picture that this model with a bipod barrel is much longer than the standard-issue version of the rifle, and the handguard part is fully distributed with a large number of heat dissipation holes, to allow quickly cooling of the barrel after continuous shooting. So Junwu thinks that this gun is the machine gun version of the new rifle, and it could be used in the future to replace type 95 machine gun.
Furthermore, a large-size optical pointing system is found in the video in the hands of the test team, which should be the sniper version of QBZ-191 – according to later information, this could be officially called “QBU-191 5.8mm precision rifle“.

This collimator should be used with the sniper version

Rumored picture of the sniper version of the new rifle
To sum up, QBZ-191 assault rifle should have 4 versions: shortened version, standard-issue version, light machine gun version and sniper version, which form a rifle family with different uses.
Besides, according to the “Light Weapons” magazine, the new QBZ-191 assault rifle is likely to adopt modular design, and some parts can be shared between the four rifle versions.
No chance. We are not buying Chinese Rifles. That is why they were never tested.
 
Nothing. In fact I would suggest @Horus Sir please close the threat. If some news comes we can start a new thread. Right now it's getting pathetically hilarious.

@PanzerKiel
Or... Another option could be.... That this thread remains, but with a different title.... Like.... PAKISTAN ARMY SMALL ARMS.... Because that is really what is being discussed here.....

In case we get news of a new weapon, a new thread can then be made.
 
Or... Another option could be.... That this thread remains, but with a different title.... Like.... PAKISTAN ARMY SMALL ARMS.... Because that is really what is being discussed here.....

In case we get news of a new weapon, a new thread can then be made.
Yes that I agree with it. And as for new weapon, I think that would happen, but after 100 years. :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
 
Money was not the issue. We didn't started Rifle trials without calculating every move. Issue was one or two Guns which we liked their companies were not agreeing to local production.
Wernt you CONFIRMING a couple of years ago that Beratta, FN and CZ have all not only agreed to local licensed production but also a license to export? I hope you remember confirming this with ABSOLUTE certainty!
 

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