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I feel your helplessness in your post.soaringeagle
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Relax, no need to flatter yourself, your small Islands kingdom is not even of any significant interest to CN.
Fsjal
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Stop lecturing yourself and deal with it
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Really now you run out of trolls post?
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China invoked UNCLOS vs Japan but CHINA ignores the Philippines UNCLOS claim against China.
(Reuters) - The United Nations is planning to consider later this year the scientific validity of a claim by China that a group of disputed islands in the East China Sea are part of its territory, although Japan says the world body should not be involved.
Tensions over the uninhabited islands - located near rich fishing grounds and potentially huge oil-and-gas reserves - flared after Japan's government purchased them from a private Japanese owner in September, sparking violent anti-Japanese protests across China and a military standoff.
Taiwan also claims the islands, known as the Diaoyu islands in China, the Senkaku islands in Japan and Tiaoyutai in Taiwan.
In a submission to the U.N. Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, China claims that the continental shelf in the East China Sea is a natural prolongation of China's land territory and that it includes the disputed islands.
Under the U.N. convention, a country can extend its 200-nautical-mile economic zone if it can prove that the continental shelf is a natural extension of its land mass. The U.N. commission assesses the scientific validity of claims, but any disputes have to be resolved between states, not by the commission.
China said the "Diaoyu Dao upfold zone" - the islands - is located between the East China Sea shelf basin and the Okinawa Trough. "The Okinawa Trough is the natural termination of the continental shelf of (the East China Sea)," it said.
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China invoked UNCLOS vs Japan but CHINA ignores the Philippines UNCLOS claim against China.
China invokes UNCLOS in claiming sovereignty over the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.
Are the CHINESE CRAZY?????? They say
1. Diaoyu/Senkaku - UNCLOS can be used
2. Scarborough/Spraltys - UNCLOS is ILLEGGAL
The Chinese government is contradicting itself.
China’s move to use Unclos in its dispute with Japan should bolster the Philippines’ position to settle its own territorial conflict with China with the international body.
CHINA MUST BE CRAZY!
(Reuters) - The United Nations is planning to consider later this year the scientific validity of a claim by China that a group of disputed islands in the East China Sea are part of its territory, although Japan says the world body should not be involved.
Tensions over the uninhabited islands - located near rich fishing grounds and potentially huge oil-and-gas reserves - flared after Japan's government purchased them from a private Japanese owner in September, sparking violent anti-Japanese protests across China and a military standoff.
Taiwan also claims the islands, known as the Diaoyu islands in China, the Senkaku islands in Japan and Tiaoyutai in Taiwan.
In a submission to the U.N. Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, China claims that the continental shelf in the East China Sea is a natural prolongation of China's land territory and that it includes the disputed islands.
Under the U.N. convention, a country can extend its 200-nautical-mile economic zone if it can prove that the continental shelf is a natural extension of its land mass. The U.N. commission assesses the scientific validity of claims, but any disputes have to be resolved between states, not by the commission.
China said the "Diaoyu Dao upfold zone" - the islands - is located between the East China Sea shelf basin and the Okinawa Trough. "The Okinawa Trough is the natural termination of the continental shelf of (the East China Sea)," it said.
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China invoked UNCLOS vs Japan but CHINA ignores the Philippines UNCLOS claim against China.
China invokes UNCLOS in claiming sovereignty over the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.
Are the CHINESE CRAZY?????? They say
1. Diaoyu/Senkaku - UNCLOS can be used
2. Scarborough/Spraltys - UNCLOS is ILLEGGAL
The Chinese government is contradicting itself.
China’s move to use Unclos in its dispute with Japan should bolster the Philippines’ position to settle its own territorial conflict with China with the international body.
CHINA MUST BE CRAZY!
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US STEALTH submarines are patrolling those islands too following your MADE IN CHINA BOATS unnoticed! yeah!
US Aircraft Carriers are also constantly there guarding the Philippines.
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Meanwhile, Chinese submarines patrol Scarborough Shoal and Chinese UAVs spy on Philippine marine bases
nufix
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Tiny HPS is brimming with PLAN and CCG assets：
I am impressed by the size of these ship, given the role of these ships that is mainly for Coastal Patrol and Guard. How are the specs sir? The Tonnage and overall length.
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Global protest set at UN against China expansionism
INQUIRER.net US Bureau
Saturday, June 15th, 2013
NEW YORKA U.S. group critical of Chinas claim on islands off the Philippines will hold a protest rally at the United Nations headquarters here on July 24.
The U.S. Pinoys for Good Governance (USP4GG) is denouncing Chinas latest incursion in Ayungin Reef, located just 105 nautical miles from Palawan.
Rep. Walden Bello of the Akbayan partylist announced that his group is joining the July 24 mass action in the Philippines and will encourage its supporters throughout the world to join in global actions to denounce Chinas provocative actions in the Ayungin Reef.
China seized the Philippines Mischief Reef in 1994, then our Scarborough Shoal last year, stated Loida Nicolas Lewis, the national chair of USP4GG and former national chair of the National Federation of Filipino American Associations (NaFFAA).
This year, China is set to invade and occupy the Ayungin Reef. We refuse to accept Chinas expansionist agenda.
Sansha anniversary
Lewis explained that July 24 marks the first anniversary of Chinas establishment of the Sansha City Prefecture, which Beijing mandated to have jurisdiction over more than two million square kilometers of the South China Sea (West Philippine Sea), including islands and reefs in the Spratlys that are within the 200-mile exclusive economic zone of the Philippines.
The Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) protested the creation of the Sansha Prefecture, after learning that its jurisdiction covered the Kalayaan Island Group in the Spratlys, which is an integral part of the Philippine territory falling under the municipality of Kalayaan in Palawan province.
Sansha City has been a subject of a Philippine protest as its administrative jurisdiction encompasses Philippine territory and maritime zones in the West Philippine Sea, DFA spokesman Raul Hernandez said.
The USP4GG said the July 24 action at the United Nations would include simultaneous town hall meetings to discuss the China threat in Filipino communities throughout the United States. It would also call on the U.S. communities of the claimant countries whose territories are being invaded by Chinese ships from the Sansha Prefecture. All patriotic Filipinos should join in the July 4 denunciation of Chinas imperialist activities in the South China/West Philippine Sea, the group stated.
Gross violation
Philippine Secretary of Foreign Affairs Albert del Rosario asserted that the creation of the Sansha Prefecture was in gross violation of the Declaration of Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC), a ten-year-old document that aims to deter use of force among countries claiming resource-rich territories in the South China Sea, including China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Taiwan and the Philippines.
Beijing announced that beginning January 1 Chinese naval ships from the Sansha Prefecture would begin patrolling the waters in the South China Sea under its jurisdiction.
On May 8, Philippine maritime surveillance vessels spotted three Chinese naval ships surrounding the Ayungin Reef (Second Thomas Shoal), which is located just 105 nautical miles from Palawan, well within the 200-mile exclusive economic zone of the Philippines. The Ayungin Reef is guarded by a Philippine marine detachment on board the BRP Sierra Madre, which is permanently moored on the reef to protect it.
We will not allow China to establish a blockade to prevent the Philippine Navy from replenishing the Philippine marine base at Ayungin with personnel and materials, declared Ted Laguatan, spokesman of the USP4GG. We support Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmins vow to defend Ayungin to the last soldier standing.
The Ayungin Reef is considered the gateway to the Recto Bank, which the U.S. Energy Information Agency (EIA) estimates to contain 2.5 billion barrels of oil and 25.5 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. In his July 25, 2011 State of the Nation Address (SONA), Pres. Benigno S. Aquino III declared: What is ours is ours; setting foot on Recto Bank is no different from setting foot on Recto Avenue.
UNCLOS claim
On January 22, the Philippines formally filed its claim against China before the United Nations Arbitral Tribunal under Article 287 and Annex VII of the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). The Philippines asserted that Chinas nine-dash line claim that encompasses virtually the entire South China Sea/West Philippine Sea is contrary to UNCLOS and is thus unlawful.
The Philippines also charged that within the maritime area encompassed by the nine-dash line, China has also laid claim to, occupied and built structures on certain submerged banks, reefs and low tide elevations that do not qualify as islands under UNCLOS, but are parts of the Philippine continental shelf, or the international seabed and has interfered with the lawful exercise by the Philippines of its rights within its legitimate maritime zones, as well as to the aforementioned features and their surrounding waters.
INQUIRER.net US Bureau
Saturday, June 15th, 2013
NEW YORKA U.S. group critical of Chinas claim on islands off the Philippines will hold a protest rally at the United Nations headquarters here on July 24.
The U.S. Pinoys for Good Governance (USP4GG) is denouncing Chinas latest incursion in Ayungin Reef, located just 105 nautical miles from Palawan.
Rep. Walden Bello of the Akbayan partylist announced that his group is joining the July 24 mass action in the Philippines and will encourage its supporters throughout the world to join in global actions to denounce Chinas provocative actions in the Ayungin Reef.
China seized the Philippines Mischief Reef in 1994, then our Scarborough Shoal last year, stated Loida Nicolas Lewis, the national chair of USP4GG and former national chair of the National Federation of Filipino American Associations (NaFFAA).
This year, China is set to invade and occupy the Ayungin Reef. We refuse to accept Chinas expansionist agenda.
Sansha anniversary
Lewis explained that July 24 marks the first anniversary of Chinas establishment of the Sansha City Prefecture, which Beijing mandated to have jurisdiction over more than two million square kilometers of the South China Sea (West Philippine Sea), including islands and reefs in the Spratlys that are within the 200-mile exclusive economic zone of the Philippines.
The Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) protested the creation of the Sansha Prefecture, after learning that its jurisdiction covered the Kalayaan Island Group in the Spratlys, which is an integral part of the Philippine territory falling under the municipality of Kalayaan in Palawan province.
Sansha City has been a subject of a Philippine protest as its administrative jurisdiction encompasses Philippine territory and maritime zones in the West Philippine Sea, DFA spokesman Raul Hernandez said.
The USP4GG said the July 24 action at the United Nations would include simultaneous town hall meetings to discuss the China threat in Filipino communities throughout the United States. It would also call on the U.S. communities of the claimant countries whose territories are being invaded by Chinese ships from the Sansha Prefecture. All patriotic Filipinos should join in the July 4 denunciation of Chinas imperialist activities in the South China/West Philippine Sea, the group stated.
Gross violation
Philippine Secretary of Foreign Affairs Albert del Rosario asserted that the creation of the Sansha Prefecture was in gross violation of the Declaration of Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC), a ten-year-old document that aims to deter use of force among countries claiming resource-rich territories in the South China Sea, including China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Taiwan and the Philippines.
Beijing announced that beginning January 1 Chinese naval ships from the Sansha Prefecture would begin patrolling the waters in the South China Sea under its jurisdiction.
On May 8, Philippine maritime surveillance vessels spotted three Chinese naval ships surrounding the Ayungin Reef (Second Thomas Shoal), which is located just 105 nautical miles from Palawan, well within the 200-mile exclusive economic zone of the Philippines. The Ayungin Reef is guarded by a Philippine marine detachment on board the BRP Sierra Madre, which is permanently moored on the reef to protect it.
We will not allow China to establish a blockade to prevent the Philippine Navy from replenishing the Philippine marine base at Ayungin with personnel and materials, declared Ted Laguatan, spokesman of the USP4GG. We support Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmins vow to defend Ayungin to the last soldier standing.
The Ayungin Reef is considered the gateway to the Recto Bank, which the U.S. Energy Information Agency (EIA) estimates to contain 2.5 billion barrels of oil and 25.5 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. In his July 25, 2011 State of the Nation Address (SONA), Pres. Benigno S. Aquino III declared: What is ours is ours; setting foot on Recto Bank is no different from setting foot on Recto Avenue.
UNCLOS claim
On January 22, the Philippines formally filed its claim against China before the United Nations Arbitral Tribunal under Article 287 and Annex VII of the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). The Philippines asserted that Chinas nine-dash line claim that encompasses virtually the entire South China Sea/West Philippine Sea is contrary to UNCLOS and is thus unlawful.
The Philippines also charged that within the maritime area encompassed by the nine-dash line, China has also laid claim to, occupied and built structures on certain submerged banks, reefs and low tide elevations that do not qualify as islands under UNCLOS, but are parts of the Philippine continental shelf, or the international seabed and has interfered with the lawful exercise by the Philippines of its rights within its legitimate maritime zones, as well as to the aforementioned features and their surrounding waters.
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