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What the f does the Zurich-London agreement have to do with the CYPRUS MISSILE CRISIS? Are you completely retarded?

You said that Turkiye is thread to Cyprus while Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements

ignorant troll ,,
first learn about politics and worldwide military before babbling
 
You said that Turkiye is thread to Cyprus while Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements

ignorant troll ,,
first learn about politics and worldwide military before babbling
CYPRUS WAS DIVIDED AFTER 1974

Therefore,Turkey is no longer a "guarantor". What the f are you even babbling about?

It's two different States,armed and ready for war at any time.
 
What complex and hatred? You had a massive army in Northern Cyprus in the 90s,the Greek Cypriots bought the S-300s to protect themselves in case of a war,you threatened with casus belli (like always),the Russians offered to protect the missiles and their installment on the island,you kept threatening with a new operation and eventually a solution was found between Greece-Cyprus-USA that would make Turkey back down. The S-300s were installed in Crete and Cyprus bought Tor-M1 and Buk-M1-2 AA systems instead.

That's the story. Go read more about it and EDUCATE yourself.

Greek tales

CASUS BELLI is against Greece in the Aegean
nothing to do with Cyprus

Greek Cypriots have big dream to destroy all Turkish Cypriots to take control over whole Cyprus

daydreamer Greeks tried to do it between 1964 and 1974

and the Turkish Armed Forces gave a big lesson to criminal Greeks in 1974

as I said , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements , Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus

CYPRUS WAS DIVIDED AFTER 1974

Therefore,Turkey is no longer a "guarantor". What the f are you even babbling about?

It's two different States,armed and ready for war at any time.

Liar Greeks , stop saying Cyprus ,,, and start saying Greek Cypriot regime
Liar Greeks , stop showing full of Cyprus belong to Greeks

Greeks dont recognize Turkish Republic of Northen Cyprus as a Country
where is TRNC ?
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Turkiye always will protect Turkish Cypriots as a guarantor country against bandit Greece -USA-France,etc
 
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Greek tales

CASUS BELLI is against Greece in the Aegean
nothing to do with Cyprus

Greek Cypriots have big dream to destroy all Turkish Cypriots to take control over whole Cyprus

daydreamer Greeks tried to do it between 1964 and 1974

and the Turkish Armed Forces gave a big lesson to criminal Greeks in 1974

as I said , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements , Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus



Liar Greeks , stop saying Cyprus ,,, and start saying Greek Cypriot regime
Liar Greeks , stop showing full of Cyprus belong to Greeks

Greeks dont recognize Turkish Republic of Northen Cyprus as a Country
where is TRNC ?
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Turkiye always will protect Turkish Cypriots as a guarantor country against bandit Greece -USA-France,etc
What kind of "special" kid are you? Where did they find you?

*sigh* Here,read and educate yourself:




Turkish reaction​

On 11 January 1997, Cypriot and US media sources reported that Turkey had overtly threatened either a pre-emptive strike to prevent the arrival of the missiles or an actual war in Cyprus as a response to the arrival of the missiles. Also, it threatened a blockade of Cyprus from Turkey.[1]

Turkey also said that it might occupy an abandoned tourist resort in Cyprus if the Cypriot government did not back down.[8] Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktaş, threatened to take over Varosha, a disputed area that has been sealed off since Turkey's 1974 invasion of Cyprus. Most property in Varosha is owned by Greek Cypriots.[1]

The Turkish Armed Forces, when the purchase of S-300 was announced, obtained from Israel surface-to-surface missiles, which could be used in a military operation to destroy the S-300 if they were installed on the island.[9] Also, according to Turkish media and other countries' intelligence agency of other countries, Turkish pilots with their F-16s were sent to Israel's Negev region to be trained on how to destroy the S-300s.[9] According to Israeli radio reports, Turkish pilots were trained only on how to evade the S-300s, not on how to destroy them.[10] The Israel embassy at Athens denied all reports.[9]

In November 1997, Turkish armed forces carried out a military exercise in Northern Cyprus, where they destroyed S-300 dummy missiles to prepare for operations against the real missiles on Cyprus.[11]

Cypriot, Greek and Russian counterreactions​

The Cypriot government protested against the Turkish threats at the United Nations and asserted its right for self-defence and the need for effective deterrence.[12] In addition, Cyprus President Glafcos Clerides said that the missiles would be deployed on the island but used only defensively.[13] Also, the Cypriot Armed Forces were placed on their highest state of alert and mobilisation since the 1974 invasion of the island by Turkey.

Between January and June 1997, Greece reportedly increased the readiness of the Hellenic Air Force and the Hellenic Navy assets positioned closest to Cyprus and moved to support the Cypriot position tacitly that the missiles were designed only for defence. The situation was then escalated, this time by the Greek decision to send a small contingent of F-16 fighter jets to Cyprus as well as additional troops to reinforce the Greek ELDYK contingent on the island.

Russia initially avoided direct confrontation with Turkey but insisted repeatedly that the sale of S-300s to Cyprus would proceed without interference. Turkey consequently looked to its strategic NATO partners, including the United States for reassurances that it would not be prevented from acting against the perceived threat if the need arose.


Western reactions​

Turkish threats led to a campaign by Western countries to prevent the system's deployment on Cyprus for fear of triggering a war in Cyprus that could draw in the Greeks.[14] In addition, the European Union warned that a military buildup could harm Cyprus's application for membership.[14]

The United States strongly opposed Cyprus's plans to install the anti-aircraft weapons[15] however also warned Turkey not to attack.[citation needed] The U.S. State Department spokesman stated: "This is no time for the Turkish government to be making wild and dramatic statements, it would be completely out of bounds for Turkey to take this action."[16]


Further escalation​

In the months leading up to June 1997, the two sides traded political rhetoric and aggressive propaganda as both attempted to justify their positions before the international community.

In September 1997, the Turkish Navy and the Turkish Coast Guard began to board and search vessels heading to Cyprus, including Russian-flagged vessels in international waters. The situation alarmed not only the Greek Cypriots but also their strategic military and economic partners in Athens and Moscow, as was evidenced by official statements in October 1997 indicating that Greece and Russia would engage in war with Turkey if Cyprus was attacked or blockaded.

By December, reports began to surface in Greek and Cypriot media forums that Russia was in the process of mobilising a large naval force with an aircraft carrier with long-range warplanes, a guided-missile cruiser and attack submarines. The presumption was that the force would have two purposes: to transport S-300 missiles and other military articles via Greek waters to Cyprus, and to attack the Turkish Navy if it tried to intervene.


Defusion​

Greek Cyprus raised the possibility of cancelling the missile deployment in exchange for a flight moratorium over Cyprus, but Turkey rejected the idea.[17]

Rather than face the political prospect of humiliation by conceding to Turkish demands for the sale to be cancelled outright, Clerides finally decided in December 1998 that the S-300 missile systems would be sent to Crete. Ostensibly, the decision was made to ensure that the deal with Russia would proceed to the latter's economic benefit and that Greece would be compensated for the situation by receiving the defensive capability of the S-300s for Crete. The Turkish government decried the move as a "cynical attempt" to redirect the S-300 missile capability against its southwestern shores and airspace and to give much-desired air defence for Greek ships and aircraft heading from Crete to Cyprus.[18]

The crisis also led to the collapse of the ruling coalition government in Cyprus.[2]


Cypriot agreement with Greece​

The Cypriot government never again seriously entertained the return of the S-300 air-defence missile systems to Cyprus for fear of unnecessarily damaging its reputation and position in European political circles. Consequently, in 2007, the missiles were finally and irrevocably sold to Greece in exchange for alternative military articles, reputed to consist of a significant quantity of short-range TOR-M1 missile systems and an undisclosed type of medium-range air-defence missile systems. Greece also supplied Cyprus with twelve self-propelled 155 mm artillery howitzers as partial rental payment for the use of the S-300s between 1999 and 2006.[19]
 
What kind of "special" kid are you? Where did they find you?

*sigh* Here,read and educate yourself:




Turkish reaction​

On 11 January 1997, Cypriot and US media sources reported that Turkey had overtly threatened either a pre-emptive strike to prevent the arrival of the missiles or an actual war in Cyprus as a response to the arrival of the missiles. Also, it threatened a blockade of Cyprus from Turkey.[1]

Turkey also said that it might occupy an abandoned tourist resort in Cyprus if the Cypriot government did not back down.[8] Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktaş, threatened to take over Varosha, a disputed area that has been sealed off since Turkey's 1974 invasion of Cyprus. Most property in Varosha is owned by Greek Cypriots.[1]

The Turkish Armed Forces, when the purchase of S-300 was announced, obtained from Israel surface-to-surface missiles, which could be used in a military operation to destroy the S-300 if they were installed on the island.[9] Also, according to Turkish media and other countries' intelligence agency of other countries, Turkish pilots with their F-16s were sent to Israel's Negev region to be trained on how to destroy the S-300s.[9] According to Israeli radio reports, Turkish pilots were trained only on how to evade the S-300s, not on how to destroy them.[10] The Israel embassy at Athens denied all reports.[9]

In November 1997, Turkish armed forces carried out a military exercise in Northern Cyprus, where they destroyed S-300 dummy missiles to prepare for operations against the real missiles on Cyprus.[11]

Cypriot, Greek and Russian counterreactions​

The Cypriot government protested against the Turkish threats at the United Nations and asserted its right for self-defence and the need for effective deterrence.[12] In addition, Cyprus President Glafcos Clerides said that the missiles would be deployed on the island but used only defensively.[13] Also, the Cypriot Armed Forces were placed on their highest state of alert and mobilisation since the 1974 invasion of the island by Turkey.

Between January and June 1997, Greece reportedly increased the readiness of the Hellenic Air Force and the Hellenic Navy assets positioned closest to Cyprus and moved to support the Cypriot position tacitly that the missiles were designed only for defence. The situation was then escalated, this time by the Greek decision to send a small contingent of F-16 fighter jets to Cyprus as well as additional troops to reinforce the Greek ELDYK contingent on the island.

Russia initially avoided direct confrontation with Turkey but insisted repeatedly that the sale of S-300s to Cyprus would proceed without interference. Turkey consequently looked to its strategic NATO partners, including the United States for reassurances that it would not be prevented from acting against the perceived threat if the need arose.


Western reactions​

Turkish threats led to a campaign by Western countries to prevent the system's deployment on Cyprus for fear of triggering a war in Cyprus that could draw in the Greeks.[14] In addition, the European Union warned that a military buildup could harm Cyprus's application for membership.[14]

The United States strongly opposed Cyprus's plans to install the anti-aircraft weapons[15] however also warned Turkey not to attack.[citation needed] The U.S. State Department spokesman stated: "This is no time for the Turkish government to be making wild and dramatic statements, it would be completely out of bounds for Turkey to take this action."[16]


Further escalation​

In the months leading up to June 1997, the two sides traded political rhetoric and aggressive propaganda as both attempted to justify their positions before the international community.

In September 1997, the Turkish Navy and the Turkish Coast Guard began to board and search vessels heading to Cyprus, including Russian-flagged vessels in international waters. The situation alarmed not only the Greek Cypriots but also their strategic military and economic partners in Athens and Moscow, as was evidenced by official statements in October 1997 indicating that Greece and Russia would engage in war with Turkey if Cyprus was attacked or blockaded.

By December, reports began to surface in Greek and Cypriot media forums that Russia was in the process of mobilising a large naval force with an aircraft carrier with long-range warplanes, a guided-missile cruiser and attack submarines. The presumption was that the force would have two purposes: to transport S-300 missiles and other military articles via Greek waters to Cyprus, and to attack the Turkish Navy if it tried to intervene.


Defusion​

Greek Cyprus raised the possibility of cancelling the missile deployment in exchange for a flight moratorium over Cyprus, but Turkey rejected the idea.[17]

Rather than face the political prospect of humiliation by conceding to Turkish demands for the sale to be cancelled outright, Clerides finally decided in December 1998 that the S-300 missile systems would be sent to Crete. Ostensibly, the decision was made to ensure that the deal with Russia would proceed to the latter's economic benefit and that Greece would be compensated for the situation by receiving the defensive capability of the S-300s for Crete. The Turkish government decried the move as a "cynical attempt" to redirect the S-300 missile capability against its southwestern shores and airspace and to give much-desired air defence for Greek ships and aircraft heading from Crete to Cyprus.[18]

The crisis also led to the collapse of the ruling coalition government in Cyprus.[2]


Cypriot agreement with Greece​

The Cypriot government never again seriously entertained the return of the S-300 air-defence missile systems to Cyprus for fear of unnecessarily damaging its reputation and position in European political circles. Consequently, in 2007, the missiles were finally and irrevocably sold to Greece in exchange for alternative military articles, reputed to consist of a significant quantity of short-range TOR-M1 missile systems and an undisclosed type of medium-range air-defence missile systems. Greece also supplied Cyprus with twelve self-propelled 155 mm artillery howitzers as partial rental payment for the use of the S-300s between 1999 and 2006.[19]

Greek troll still talking about Greek tales copy paste kid

Your lies and copy paste source even saying Turkish invasion of Cyprus
nobody cares about your lies and Greek tales

Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus and gave a lesson to criminal Greeks in 1974
1/3 of Cyprus is belong to the Turks

Turkiye always will protect Turkish Cypriots as a guarantor country against bandit Greece -USA-France,etc
 
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Greek troll still talking about Greek tales copy paste kid

Your lies and copy paste source even saying Turkish invasion of Cyprus
nobody cares about your lies and Greek tales

Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus and gave a lesson to criminal Greeks in 1974
1/3 of Cyprus is belong to the Turks

Turkiye always will protect Turkish Cypriots as a guarantor country against bandit Greece -USA-France,etc
Are you smoking Jamaican again? You can't refute the facts and history and you go back to "oooh Turkey guarantor country gave lesson to criminal greeks...ooo 1/3 Cyprus belong to Turkey....Turkey alway protect Turkish cypriots"

Like a baby that can't debate and goes back to repeat the same words,like a parrot.
 
Are you smoking Jamaican again? You can't refute the facts and history and you go back to "oooh Turkey guarantor country gave lesson to criminal greeks...ooo 1/3 Cyprus belong to Turkey....Turkey alway protect Turkish cypriots"

Like a baby that can't debate and goes back to repeat the same words,like a parrot.

When I kick you in military-politics discuss
you are jumping from a topic to another topic like rabbit


1 -- You said that Turkiye is threat to Cyprus while Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements

ignorant troll


2 -- about S300s

Greece should have kept S300s in the hangar
but since 2013 S300s are in active status
and in a conflict Greece will use S300s against NATO member Turkiye

hypocrite USA sold even PATRIOT to Greece

USA doesnt sell PATRIOT to Turkiye , France blocked EUROSAM
still They are saying Turkiye bought S400 from Russia while Greece has both S300 and PATRIOT

wth are you talking about ? will we stop the enemies by slingshot ?
hypocrite USA and France
 
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When I kick you in military-politics discuss
you are jumping from a topic to another topic like rabbit
Where in your mind do you kick me in military-politics discussions? Are you joking? 😂

1 -- You said that Turkiye is thread to Cyprus while Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements
THREAT. Not "thread". Threat in the '90s.

Turkey stopped being a "guarantor" after the partition of the island.

2 -- about S300s

Greece should have kept S300s in the hangar
but since 2013 S300s are in active status
and in a conflict Greece will use S300s against NATO member Turkiye
If you read the whole story above,the S-300s were traded,to avoid war. USA and others agreed,because they didn't want a war to start.

hypocrite USA sold even PATRIOT to Greece
There had to be a balance. You had a bigger Air Force,we had better AA systems.

USA doesnt sell PATRIOT to Turkiye , France blocked EUROSAM
still They are saying Turkiye bought S400 from Russia while Greece has both S300 and PATRIOT

1.Greece had acquired S-300PMU1 because Turkey threatened Cyprus with war. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW. Goldfish memory?

2.Greece got the S-300 before CAATSA was even established.

3.Turkey got S-400s while planning to also have F-35 and while having close relations with Russia.

So,the only one you have to blame is your leadership.

@LegionnairE Correct?
 
Where in your mind do you kick me in military-politics discussions? Are you joking? 😂

You said that Turkiye is threat to Cyprus while Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements

ignorant troll ...


If you read the whole story above,the S-300s were traded,to avoid war. USA and others agreed,because they didn't want a war to start.

We dont care about story
We care about reality

Greece has S300s
and in a conflict Greece will use S300s against NATO member Turkiye



There had to be a balance. You had a bigger Air Force,we had better AA systems.

No big difference

Turkiye has 235 F-16
Greece has 154 F-16 and 42 Mirage-2000

on the other hand Greece has S300 and PATRIOT , while Turkiye had nothing until 2019-2020


Greece is not big country , useless pawn , nothing else
Turkiye protect southeast border of NATO since cold war

and We have started kicking their so-called balance .. thanks to Turkish defense industry




1.Greece had acquired S-300PMU1 because Turkey threatened Cyprus with war. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW. Goldfish memory?

lying character ?

We declared CASUS BELLI against Greece in the Agean
nothing to do with Cyprus


2.Greece got the S-300 before CAATSA was even established.

We dont care about CAATSA
Greece has S300s which will be used against NATO member Turkiye in a conflict



3.Turkey got S-400s while planning to also have F-35 and while having close relations with Russia.

stop talking tales

Problem is not S400 - F35
We have seen this reality ,, USA even trying to block sale of F16 to Turkiye



@LegionnairE Correct?

what a troll always calling others like little boy
 
You said that Turkiye is threat to Cyprus while Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus , according to 1959 Zurich-London agreements

ignorant troll ...
Are you completely retarded? I REPLIED 3 TIMES TO THIS DUMB COMMENT OF YOURS.

I told you: IT'S THE '90S AND TURKEY IS STILL A THREAT TO THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS. As it still is.
WITH THE CREATION OF THE TRNC,the de facto partition of the island into two States,Turkey stops being a "guarantor". Logic.exe not found?



lying character ?

We declared CASUS BELLI against Greece in the Agean
nothing to do with Cyprus

YOU THREATENED WITH A MILITARY STRIKE AGAINST CYPRUS IF THE MISSILES WERE INSTALLED ON THE ISLAND! THAT MEANS WAR! THAT WOULD HAVE DRAWN IN GREECE AND RUSSIA! THAT IN TURN WOULD HAVE DRAWN IN USA AND THE REST OF NATO.


We dont care about CAATSA
Greece has S300s which will be used against NATO member Turkiye in a conflict
stop talking tales

Problem is not S400 - F35
We have seen this reality ,, USA even trying to block sale of F16 to Turkiye
IF YOU DON'T CARE,THEN WHY DO YOU MAKE FALSE COMMENTS THEN? You can't say something stupid,then get a reply and then say "I don't care". It's like going to a burger joint and asking for a pizza and they tell you "we only have burgers" and you say "I don't care about your burgers!"

IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DEBATE AND ACCEPT REPLIES,THEN LEAVE THE FORUM. SIMPLY.

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Are you completely retarded? I REPLIED 3 TIMES TO THIS DUMB COMMENT OF YOURS.

I told you: IT'S THE '90S AND TURKEY IS STILL A THREAT TO THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS. As it still is.
WITH THE CREATION OF THE TRNC,the de facto partition of the island into two States,Turkey stops being a "guarantor". Logic.exe not found?

stop lying

There is no 2 States
Greece , USA , and The EU dont recognize TRNC as a country

Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus
if not , criminal Greeks would destroy all Turkish Cypriots long time ago

YOU THREATENED WITH A MILITARY STRIKE AGAINST CYPRUS IF THE MISSILES WERE INSTALLED ON THE ISLAND! THAT MEANS WAR! THAT WOULD HAVE DRAWN IN GREECE AND RUSSIA! THAT IN TURN WOULD HAVE DRAWN IN USA AND THE REST OF NATO.

You are so pathetic

Turkiye never attacked Greek Cypriots
Greek Cypriots have a dream since 1960s to kick all Turkish Cypriots out of Cyprus

in 1974 Turkiye saved Turkish Cypriots from criminal Greek Cypriots

in 1990s Greek Cypriots exhibited a hostile attitude towards Turkish Cypriots again as like 1964-1974

today same dream and senario Greek Cypriots wants to buy IRON DOME from Israel


IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DEBATE AND ACCEPT REPLIES,THEN LEAVE THE FORUM. SIMPLY.

what a silly post as always 10 years old child mind

I never said Turkiye is a super power ... liar troll
 
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stop lying

There is no 2 States
Greece and The EU dont recognize TRNC as a country

Turkiye is a guarantor country in Cyprus
if not , criminal Greeks would destroy all Turkish Cypriots long time ago
In which universe do you live at?

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You are so pathetic

Turkiye never attacked Greek Cypriots
Greek Cypriots have a dream since 1960s to kick all Turkish Cypriots out of Cyprus

in 1974 Turkiye saved Turkish Cypriots from criminal Greek Cypriots

in 1990s Greek Cypriots exhibited a hostile attitude towards Turkish Cypriots again as like 1964-1974
We're talking about the 90s and you,out of lack of sound arguments,go back to talk about the past.

It's not in your advantage to say nonsense like "in 1990s Greek Cypriots exhibited a hostile attitude towards Turkish Cypriots again". Should I remind you that Turks and Turkish Cypriots murdered Solomos Solomou and Tasos Isaac LIVE ON TV?


 
Should I remind you that Turks and Turkish Cypriots murdered Solomos Solomou and Tasos Isaac LIVE ON TV?

Bravo Turkish soldiers .. great job

Fanatic Greek Cypriots tried to lower the Turkish flag
Nobody can touch our flag .. know your place

In which universe do you live at?

Daydreamer Greeks are living in another universe
 
1.Greece had acquired S-300PMU1 because Turkey threatened Cyprus with war. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW. Goldfish memory?

2.Greece got the S-300 before CAATSA was even established.

3.Turkey got S-400s while planning to also have F-35 and while having close relations with Russia.

So,the only one you have to blame is your leadership.

@LegionnairE Correct?
Stupid debate, please don't drag me into this.

CAATSA was established for Turkey. This is happening because Turkey has a different image than Greece.

Greece could be seen as politically and economically unstable, corrupt and there fore a liability but never seen as a threat. Turkey is seen as a threat not just because we are a strong military but because of authocratic, dictatorial image, bad PR from kurds and Erdo's belligerent "asarız, keseriz" rhetoric. Couple that with the fact that nobody in the administration even speaks fucking English!!! It's amazing we're not under harsher sanctions.

40 years of war against PKK and we still can't explain our side of the story, you don't see Turkish politicians speaking to foreign press for example.

Westerners think that we have a nationalist government, anti Turkishness of our government could only be matched by the Greek government. Westerners think AKP administration is oppressing the kurds while they suck kurdish dick the hardest. There's just very little information leaking to the outside world from Turkey.

What the **** do you expect when Armenians, Greeks, Kurds everybody working against you having diasporas that actually do things instead of Useless shits we have in Germany like MME, that do more to ruin Turkey's image than to actually help. What the **** do you expect?

Yes, there are double standards between Greece and Turkey. So what? Why argue about this with a Greek?
 
Greece could be seen as politically and economically unstable, corrupt and there fore a liability but never seen as a threat. Turkey is seen as a threat not just because we are a strong military but because of authocratic, dictatorial image, bad PR from kurds and Erdo's belligerent "asarız, keseriz" rhetoric. Couple that with the fact that nobody in the administration even speaks fucking English!!! It's amazing we're not under harsher sanctions.
Akar speaks english...although not great. The problem is the whole government was seen as a loose cannon. That's the kind of threat! They took Turkey and turned it into an unreliable ally and occasional friend. One day with USA,the other day with Russia,one day F-35,then S-400,then asking for F-35 again,then saying they will buy Su-35 and Su-57,then asking for F-16s,then saying maybe Eurofighter. Selling TB2 to Ukraine,but making deals with Russia,saying we're a peaceful country,then you have some AKP MPs saying "We can be in Damascus in 3 hours".
 

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