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The third Deputy Minister-level strategic defence talks took place in Hanoi on September 3 under the co-chair by Vietnam’s Deputy Defence Minister, Sen. Lieut. Gen. Nguyen Chi Vinh and Deputy Chief of General Staff of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, Sen. Lieut. Gen. Ma Xiaotian.

General Vinh stated that Vietnam treasures its friendship with China and wants to work with China to establish sustainable peace and cooperation for mutual development to contribute to the world’s peace.

For his part, general Ma said in the context of complicated developments in regional and world arena, this dialogue is necessary to broaden common perceptions to importantly help with the enhancement of friendship and cooperation between the two countries and the two armies.

At the talks, the two sides showed their delight at developments in the two countries’ military ties and agreed that defence cooperation has become one of important factors of the Vietnam-China friendship.

They agreed to continue exchanging visits at all levels regularly to strengthen political trust and close ties between the two armies.

Due attentions will be given to cooperation in training, exchange activities, and coordination between the navies, border guard forces and maritime police.

Vinh asked the border guard forces of border provinces of Vietnam and China to increase cooperation to jointly maintain security and friendship in border areas and fight trans-national crime.

The Vietnamese side also expressed hopes for the organisation of exchanges between strategic research institutes and an increase in linkages between military communication agencies.

Touching on international situation, particularly in the Asia-Pacific region, the two generals agreed that peace and cooperation are the mainstream that fits aspiration of people in the Asia-Pacific.

They viewed that the current regional and international situations offer both opportunities and challenges to every country and that development cooperation with countries, both in and outside the region will bring benefits for both Vietnam, China and related countries and maintain peace and stability in the region.

They, on the other hand, pointed out that big countries’ increasing interference into the Asia-Pacific will bring in challenges as well as implications if an environment honoring fairness, dialogues, international law, legitimate interests and political system of each country in the region is not created.

Deputy Minister Vinh reiterated the country’s foreign policy of independence, self-reliance, diversification and multilateralisation and not taking sides to build and defend the fatherland and at the same time contribute positively to peace and stability in the region and the world.

The two generals frankly discussed outstanding issues between the two countries regarding the East Sea issue.

They both reaffirmed the need to address those existing issues based on the general situation of relations between the two Parties and the two countries.

According to Deputy Minister Vinh, handling disputes in the East Sea is an issue of great importance in the Vietnam-China relationship and the fortune of the two countries and peoples.

It is very difficult, very sensitive and time-consuming for both sides to solve this issue
, Vinh said.

He expressed his hopes that holding on goodwill, endeavours and the spirit of traditional friendship, mutual respect, publicity and transparency, the two sides will surely figure out settlement measures that both comply with international law and meet legitimate interests of the two countries and nations.

For the Vietnam-China ties, it is urgent for both sides to continue with cooperation and dialogue to step up political trust between the two Parties, States and armies.

“Without political trust, development cooperation cannot be done and disputes cannot be addressed,” Vinh said.

He proposed enhancing the share of bilateral interest and cooperation in multilateral forums along with stepping up cooperation in all fields.

Sharing the view with Deputy Minister Vinh, general Ma stated that China wants all disputes to be solved peacefully, without the use of force or threat to use force and with the observance of international law.

The Chinese side expressed hopes to see the sea dispute to be addressed satisfactorily, leaving no effects on the two countries’ ties and each country’s development.

At the end of the talks, the two officers witnessed the signing of an agreement on the expansion of training cooperation between the two armies.-VNA
Vietnam, China hold strategic defence talks -- Vietnam+ (VietnamPlus)
It seems like general Ma agree that SCS can be called East sea,too when he heard that our Kilos soon will arrive and will ambush china's ships in Malacca after that :lol:
 
Viet Nam should watch out for the peace talks or co-operate defense with China that may gives them some buy of time indeed. In fact, Viet Nam should more focusing on what stakes its on. No friendship, no good partner, no good neighobor and NO for whatever China offering to Viet Nam.

One more thing Viet Nam needs to remembers that China has slapped Viet Nam faces so many times, why Viet Nam kept doing soft things with China for any caused? Vietnamese leaders needed to be strong minds and far views about China.
 
Viet Nam should watch out for the peace talks or co-operate defense with China that may gives them some buy of time indeed. In fact, Viet Nam should more focusing on what stakes its on. No friendship, no good partner, no good neighobor and NO for whatever China offering to Viet Nam.

One more thing Viet Nam needs to remembers that China has slapped Viet Nam faces so many times, why Viet Nam kept doing soft things with China for any caused? Vietnamese leaders needed to be strong minds and far views about China.

Darn you are so smart.
 
Viet Nam should watch out for the peace talks or co-operate defense with China that may gives them some buy of time indeed. In fact, Viet Nam should more focusing on what stakes its on. No friendship, no good partner, no good neighobor and NO for whatever China offering to Viet Nam.

One more thing Viet Nam needs to remembers that China has slapped Viet Nam faces so many times, why Viet Nam kept doing soft things with China for any caused? Vietnamese leaders needed to be strong minds and far views about China.

Your gorvernment is more pragmatic than you...they know that after all you're just a forgotten people of China....in the nostalgia of Nan Yue brothers...no matter you hate us... we still love you :D you will live with us with a distrust to the Giant bad neighbor but we have much to do business togheter :rofl:
 
hehe absolutely correct as long as vietnam is poor and useless like they are now we will continue slap vietnam face for many year to come:rofl:

That is why I recommended Viet Nam leaders should watch out for China, and prepare to slapping back on China faces for any cause might occurs. Deal ???

Your gorvernment is more pragmatic than you...they know that after all you're just a forgotten people of China....in the nostalgia of Nan Yue brothers...no matter you hate us... we still love you :D you will live with us with a distrust to the Giant bad neighbor but we have much to do business togheter :rofl:

Apparently, you can check with other sources that show any statements Vietnamese hates Chinese [Vietnamese does not hates Chinese], but Yes Vietnamese hates China leaders who guided Chinese citizens goes for wars. Period !!!

General Ma is an army general. That means China will be using the army to deal with Vietnam, not the navy.

So you meant PLA Navy's is above China Laws ??? Do you really think that PLA Navy would crushes Viet Nam Navy's easily ???
 
Apparently, you can check with other sources that show any statements Vietnamese hates Chinese [Vietnamese does not hates Chinese], but Yes Vietnamese hates China leaders who guided Chinese citizens goes for wars. Period !!!

Nah don't talk like angel...it happens just that you're in the other side of fence...if you're Chinese or (Nan Yue) as me..you will understand us better.
 
China needs her own Israel and I think Vietnam fits the bill perfectly if.......
 
China needs her own Israel and I think Vietnam fits the bill perfectly if.......

I don't think China will not has chances if she does RIGHT treats to Viet Nam, that is also means respects Viet Nam sovereignty then China Israel will be applied. [Like U.S does to Israel and Israel keep U.S safer in the Middle East]

Nah don't talk like angel...it happens just that you're in the other side of fence...if you're Chinese or (Nan Yue) as me..you will understand us better.

You can't prove to me that Vietnamese hates Chinese people, but I am sure that you do have prove about Vietnamese hates China's leaders like Taiwanese people.

If China wants safer zone then its must be make a right decisions to and what country needed to be fair treats.
 
I don't think China will not has chances if she does RIGHT treats to Viet Nam, that is also means respects Viet Nam sovereignty then China Israel will be applied. [Like U.S does to Israel and Israel keep U.S safer in the Middle East]



You can't prove to me that Vietnamese hates Chinese people, but I am sure that you do have prove about Vietnamese hates China's leaders like Taiwanese people.

If China wants safer zone then its must be make a right decisions to and what country needed to be fair treats.

Sorry mate we dont treat thief and backstabbing vietnam with respect we already slap your face every day by occupied the SCS:rofl:
 
All powerful countries need one or two very close allies to act and talk for her when it's not convenience for her to do so. They are sort of like front runners. Right now the US has Israel, UK and Japan.

I agree, but having our own Israel ? US UK relations are at an equal level the US Israel relationship is more Israel Influencing the US. It's unlikely this relationship happens and with Vietnam.
 
I agree, but having our own Israel ? US UK relations are at somewhat an equal level the US Israel relationship is more Israel Influencing the US. It's unlikely this relationship happens and with Vietnam.


The UK is not and was never an equal of the US since WWII, even the whole NATO is directly under the US influences. Israel influences the US foreign policies is a little over hyped and if it is, only limits to the Middle East. Let say if Israel decides to promote belligerent activities all over the area you'll see how fast Uncle Sam stops her cold. She's allowed or even encouraged to act certain way because it's in the US interests to do so, nothing more and nothing less.
 
The UK is not and was never an equal of the US since WWII, even the whole NATO is directly under the US influences. Israel influences the US foreign policies is a little over hyped and if it is, only limits to the Middle East. Let say if Israel decides to promote belligerent activities all over the area you'll see how fast Uncle Sam stops her cold. She's allowed or even encouraged to act certain way because it's in the US interests to do so, nothing more and nothing less.

My Point is the USA has more weight in it's relations with Japan then it does with the UK, the UK USA relationship has it's flaws like the Falkland Issue. Israel does have Influence on the USA ME policy some points they agree on some they disagree on, Oil, Arms Lobby and other things. Gaza, Irans Nuclear program come in mind.
 
My Point is the USA has more weight in it's relations with Japan then it does with the UK, the UK USA relationship has it's flaws like the Falkland Issue. Israel does have Influence on the USA ME policy some points they agree on some they disagree on, Oil, Arms Lobby and other things. Gaza, Irans Nuclear program come in mind.


Japan and UK are merely junior partners of the US especially now when the latter is in a little trouble with her economy. Because the reputations of these two they are some good partner though.

Israel influences on the US foreign policies is primarily through the Congress, with AIPAC doling out campaign contributions, and as you pointed out most of their interests are happen to coincide in the Middle East. Since Israel, as well as Japan, need the protection of the US, their relationship can never be equaled.
 

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