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Gambit: Without economies background in the state of the market, its no problem, such knowledge is picked up with a book. But deep theoretical knowledge of semiconductor materials, that's what a few days of reading magazines doesn't get.
You must be talking about yourself there. The 'deep theoretical knowledge' has nothing to do with market share, which is dependent upon manufacturing ability and capacity. You are ignorant about all aspects of the semicon industry and that was why you mistook China's foundry fabs to be the highest level of semicon manufacturing. You were proven grossly wrong. People should not take you seriously about anything regarding economics.
 
April 25, 2011, 9:07 PM
Can China really dump the dollar?

The U.S. dollar is on our minds these days because it is weak and getting weaker. We hear reports that Chinese officials are actively cautioning, scolding and remonstrating the U.S. on its profligate ways because China has a few trillion in reserves, much of it invested in dollar-denominated securities.

And, the falling dollar and China’s big stake in dollar-denominated securities raises the question, “Will China dump the dollar?” For investors, I believe a better question is:
Can China really dump the dollar?

In terms of foreign currencies, I believe there are only two other actual currencies — the Euro and the Japanese Yen — that China could look to other than the dollar. China’s financial reserves are big enough that the Chinese government has to have its foreign assets denominated in a very large, liquid currency. And, there are not too many of those around other than the U.S. dollar, the Euro and the Yen. For a variety of historical and cultural reasons, I doubt if the Chinese would seriously entertain putting most of their foreign currency and foreign assets holdings in the Japanese Yen, so the currency choice is between the dollar and the Euro.

The Chinese are investing in the Euro, but that is happening in an incremental fashion. As long as the U.S. remains a significant trading partner for China’s exports, the dollar will be a major currency for Chinese central bank activities. There are those who think the Chinese will dump the dollar and buy Euros on a wholesale basis, but that is unlikely.

However, one other choice is being discussed — the Chinese currency itself, known alternatively as the yuan or renmimbi. Let’s go with yuan, but really why can’t they just make up their mind?

I have no doubt the Chinese would love to have the yuan as the world’s reserve currency. But, I don’t see that happening soon unless they really want to wreak havoc and let loose the dogs of currency and trade war.

What if?

Just to finish the thought, what if China did dump the dollar in a significant way? First, the implications of that are obviously negative for the U.S. economy as the dollar would fall even further under the selling pressure. And, other countries, along with large investors would dump dollars, putting more pressure on it. In order to shore up the dollar, the Federal Reserve would be forced to raise short-term interest rates and, though that would help the dollar, it would hurt the economy in the short run.

However, consider how these events would affect China. Selling its stake in dollar-denominated securities is something that could not be done quickly. So, a precipitous fall in the dollar would reduce the value of all dollar-based securities China continued to hold. Also, assuming the U.S. economy softened under this scenario, exports to America would dry up quite a bit.

Finally, there would be intense political pressure in the U.S. to retaliate by slapping tariffs on Chinese goods and taking other punitive measures. In short, China would also suffer a great deal if it tried to dump the dollar. So, I do not believe they can dump the dollar, but I also believe they are actively seeking other options. In the long run though, it still comes down — and down and down — to the dollar.

What’s next for the dollar?

The big difficulty we face now is that the economy is weak and the Fed likes to have very low interest rates to help the economy begin to grow again. Low interest rates are helpful to overall economic activity, but low rates generally hurt the dollar.

If the Federal Reserve wanted to help out the weak dollar, the response would ideally be to raise interest rates. However, due to serious weakness in the economy, the Fed is hampered in its ability to respond to this situation and I believe it will opt to keep interest rates low well into 2012 in order to promote economic growth. Unfortunately, of course, that means we are likely to have a weak dollar for some time as well.

You may hear various politicians or pundits decrying the weak dollar. However, for decades, our government’s philosophy during recessions has been to publicly espouse a strong dollar while also cutting interest rates to strengthen the economy and give unemployment a boost. This has traditionally been done despite the fact that lower interest rates generally lead to a weaker dollar. I don’t see anything in the cards that appears to have changed that policy. Therefore, I expect continued pressure on the dollar as the Fed seeks to get economic activity going again.

Huge deficits mean more pressure on the dollar

With huge budget deficits as far as the eye can see, the U.S. Treasury has to issue enormous amounts of Treasury securities. To absorb these securities, the Treasury needs buyers. So, we need China to continue investing. As a result, U.S. fiscal and monetary policy will be increasingly tied to keeping China happy. It enforces a discipline of sorts, but our policy options are going to be increasingly limited and necessarily reactive, rather than pro-active.

The road ahead

The dollar is likely to be weak until the Fed starts raising interest rates, which is unlikely to happen until later next year. So, we will continue to hear lots of noise from Washington and parts eastward about the dollar, but I do not think anyone in the Treasury Department or the Federal Reserve will do anything meaningful about the dollar soon.

As long as this low interest rate trend continues, the dollar will weaken. However, when the dollar snaps back, as it will (if even temporarily), the move will be very quick.
 
correct,but it still is so so so ahead of China.
China and India can be in the same league of per capita incomes with some $1,300 and $4,400 respectively...Not much of a difference,eh?
But compare US and China $4,400 and $47,132..eh?Too much difference!!

higher per/cap wont give you an advantage if anything is gonna become a burden ,almost every country in the world has high per/cap than china in the 60s and look at where they are now compare to china. when in time of need what really matter is how much money you got in yours bank account, not how much higher your income than your counter part.

right now china has plenty of cash to invest in anything she wants, as for america they have to cut back on almost everthing.
 
Technologically, no they are not falling behind. They still enjoy a considerable lead over the closest competitors, China included. The biggest problem I see facing United States is the state of their finance, with massive debt and money printing. The US dollar has gone down in value as much as 1/3 in the past 10 years when your consider the buying power. Their political system, with all its bickering and lobbyists, cannot address these shortcomings. All empires are destroyed from within.

yes techologically we are still far behind, but we are catching up fast, with the amount of money we invest in R&D just give us another 5 years , we will be up there with those big boys
 
The recent flood of articles and campaigns by Obama are desperate attempts to kick start their economy. Obama has been appealing the companies in the silicon valley to innovate and add more jobs to their payrolls. Be prepared to see more of such articles in the US media.

Despite the economic situation, US is still leading the world in innovation and engineering. If they stop innovating today, it will take almost a decade for another country to challenge their technological capability. Thing to take from this article is nothing beyond a wake up call.

this is exactly what many american or people in the west is thinking, this kind of thought enable china to buy valuable times and caught them by surprise time and time again
 
US tech is surviving on momentum and brain drain, not any significant internal innovation.

Bro, U.S is still leading innovation, they ranked first last year with over 45,000 patents been granted by PCT, China ranked 4th with over 12,000 patent grant from PCT
 
china thought the US going to war with Nazi's was a gift to China too. China has lost its marbles and moral compass in the world. The world does business reluctantly with china and no country who is looked as the world's comic relief is going to be considered any power.

where did we hear the alarm bells before mmm-- oh yeah , the japanese are going to take over (in the 80's) . they will lead innovation, technology blah blah..
 
china thought the US going to war with Nazi's was a gift to China too. China has lost its marbles and moral compass in the world. The world does business reluctantly with china and no country who is looked as the world's comic relief is going to be considered any power.

where did we hear the alarm bells before mmm-- oh yeah , the japanese are going to take over (in the 80's) . they will lead innovation, technology blah blah..

people saying china is going to collapse in 70s, 80s, 90s and 2008 blablabla what happend?

and also people barking that china cannot innovate doing cheap low quality staff`bla bla bla``what now? the country ranked at 4th in terms of patent grant by International Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), and a country sent men into space several times and building space station alone``and a country that contracted to build Boeing and Airbus plane parts``` a country leads in High Technology export exceeding U.S with more than $100 billions`

so whats ur point?
 
^^ Sanjay is just trolling.

China = Creditor trying to reduce huge fx reserves.
US = Debtor trying to raise 14 Trillion Debt Ceiling.

Who's the comic relief??

Yesterday, I interviewed a Columbia grad, a Duke grad and a Vasser grad. None had offers at this point. All talking about getting PhDs with US govt student loans because there's no jobs in the US for US grads. Gas will hit $5 this summer and economy is going back to recession.
 
I think we just need stop taunting each other for such nonsense.

China is still far behind and we just need keep our modesty and work harder.

Please do not put a great-leap on China again. 5 years? Are you kidding?

We need at least 4 times of that amount of time to play the catch-up game.

BTW, why would you think U.S. will always commit those types of mistakes in the past always for the next 20 years???
 
BOSTON (MarketWatch) — The International Monetary Fund has just dropped a bombshell, and nobody noticed.

Excerpt;

For the first time, the international organization has set a date for the moment when the “Age of America” will end and the U.S. economy will be overtaken by that of China.
 
I think we just need stop taunting each other for such nonsense.

China is still far behind and we just need keep our modesty and work harder.

Please do not put a great-leap on China again. 5 years? Are you kidding?

We need at least 4 times of that amount of time to play the catch-up game.

BTW, why would you think U.S. will always commit those types of mistakes in the past always for the next 20 years???

People are scared of the great leap forward not because of the thinking, but because it failed.

It is definitely possible to leap forward in strategic areas by bypassing traditional rules in emerging areas. That is exactly how Taiwan leaped ahead in computer hardware while being still stone age in traditional heavy industries like shipbuilding, automotive and aerospace.

Emerging areas and critical technologies like deep sea mining, photovoltaics and other advanced materials, supercomputing, biotechnology and advanced transportation are relatively easy to leap ahead in provided they have necessary funding. It is extremely difficult to leap ahead in traditional areas.
 
People are scared of the great leap forward not because of the thinking, but because it failed.

It is definitely possible to leap forward in strategic areas by bypassing traditional rules in emerging areas. That is exactly how Taiwan leaped ahead in computer hardware while being still stone age in traditional heavy industries like shipbuilding, automotive and aerospace.

Emerging areas and critical technologies like deep sea mining, photovoltaics and other advanced materials, supercomputing, biotechnology and advanced transportation are relatively easy to leap ahead in provided they have necessary funding. It is extremely difficult to leap ahead in traditional areas.

You guys miss the point. US economy is 70% services like Starbucks not high tech widgets and super duper inventions. Biggest employer in US besides the government is Walmart. Subtract the ridiculously expensive healthcare system and defense spending, you have an economy not driven by high-tech. Leave California out and that high tech sector drops even more.

US GDP is borrow and spend, borrow and spend to the tune of $50 Trillion in public and private debt. The price of silver has tripled in 9 months. The US is just printing money like Zimbabwe and exporting the inflation. No kidding.
 
You guys miss the point. US economy is 70% services like Starbucks not high tech widgets and super duper inventions. Biggest employer in US besides the government is Walmart. Subtract the ridiculously expensive healthcare system and defense spending, you have an economy not driven by high-tech. Leave California out and that high tech sector drops even more.

US GDP is borrow and spend, borrow and spend to the tune of $50 Trillion in public and private debt. The price of silver has tripled in 9 months. The US is just printing money like Zimbabwe and exporting the inflation. No kidding.

Defense is high tech! Healthcare can be considered "half high tech" because it drives much of biotechnology.

I think services are not limited to restraunt and retail, they include strategic areas like finance, technical consultants and outsourced engineering design. however, I agree somewhat. The industrial production of China just outpaced that of the US. This indeed means that the US is starting to fall behind in production of real goods.
 

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