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China-India Standoff 2020 - Outcome

Hi. let us suppose that India successfully repels Chinese attack and begin offensive against china. do you think India has the capability to threaten Plateau of Tibet from Chinese control? obviously peaks. Do you think it's possible? What will be the objectives of Indian army in case if they decide to start offensive against china?
In theory, both sides have the capabilty to invade each other's territory. However, neither side will do that unless provoked. Keep in mind that despite some media reports satellite images have shown no permanent Chinese encampments across the LAC, except for one standoff site about 500m from the LAC. Both sides are bolstering their positions, but so far no status quo changes. That is how it could be for several months, potentially even until snow starts falling again. But their will be no escalation other than fistfights and stone throwing and no major transgressions.

Sure pazheet I totally believe your BJP IT cell propaganda.
Yes, Mr. Nathan Ruser is definitely a member of the magical BJP IT cells
https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/nathan-ruser

Anyway, I prefer to look at actual evidence


 
Thank you @Joe Shearer For the detailed response. Most of the Indians feel the same as you stated above that this is due to Taiwan Issue and Indian support. What do you think how this issue will be solves and more importantly how all the border disputes with India will be solved?
I know u asked Indians and Chinese to contribute...
...I'm only posting bcuz I have a question that I've been wanting to ask...since I read this news and saw pictures(in another thread)...
My question is that the Chinese military seems encamped in a valley which in the pictures looks surrounded by ridges and mountains(hence why it's a valley). Wouldn't it be super hard to defend that area? Wouldn't securing higher points overlooking the valley be of more strategic value?

IMO I don't think there would be a war...due to various reasons which I will not go in to bcuz that would be a whole other discussion of its own...I'm mainly interested in hearing ppl's thoughts about that question that I'm wondering.
 
It's an era of the power projection!!! And, the aspiring Great-Powers-to-be have to do it despite the Coronavirus...

Turkey has set the sail in the East Med, the Aegean, Libya, Northern Irak/Syria, Katar, Somalia etc...

China wants a lion's share, so she has started with the "usual suspect"....

It's the best time to go to the war for the youth...

*As for Pak, Afganistan alone is worth ten such adventures
 
Hi. let us suppose that India successfully repels Chinese attack and begin offensive against china. do you think India has the capability to threaten Plateau of Tibet from Chinese control? obviously peaks. Do you think it's possible? What will be the objectives of Indian army in case if they decide to start offensive against china?

never going to happen . we don't have capacity to attack china .
 
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Hi. let us suppose that India successfully repels Chinese attack and begin offensive against china. do you think India has the capability to threaten Plateau of Tibet from Chinese control? obviously peaks. Do you think it's possible? What will be the objectives of Indian army in case if they decide to start offensive against china?

Bring it to a different thread, ask @PanzerKiel to participate to inject realism into the discussion, and we can converse on this.
 
Nothing is going to happen. Both the armies will withdraw before the onset of winter as the terrain is inhospitable and temperature can drop to -40°C. Happens every year.
 
@Joe Shearer - have they breached the LAC in areas which they don't claim?

Apparently not.

What happens is this: The Indian claim line runs east of the Chinese actual locations. The Chinese claim lines run west of the Indian actual locations. Each side insists on patrolling up to its claimed line, and that necessarily takes it beyond the opposition positions. It is at these times that patrols find themselves face to face with each other, with a variety of reactions and responses.

The Chinese, however, have a habit of salami-slicing: of improving their positions by minute amounts every time a new unit takes its place on border defence duties. This has resulted in some unexpected bulges in the actual locations; the Indian locations have stayed the same, the Chinese locations have inched forward in a number of places. Moving an actual location back to the original spot is far more difficult - and contentious - than meeting the others on a routine patrol.

The provocation is not entirely Chinese. The great untold story of this border is the extensive infrastructure build-up that has taken place on the Indian side. After decades of labouring under a weird theory that improving infrastructure (= roads) would improve the prospects of an attacking force, the Indian side has actually expanded and extended its network considerably, not merely in length, but in terms of load-bearing capacity. At last, we have understood what the Chinese understood and implemented from 1950 onwards: roads mean presence, presence means domination, domination means victory. The Chinese side is naturally and correctly alarmed, and is reacting to it, among other reasons in order to pull down the Indians a peg or two when they need to break through the wall of resistance building up against China in international affairs.

India's silence or even tacit approval of freedom of the seas cruises by the USN in the South China Sea, her refusal to return Taiwan to the dustbin of history, as had been Indian policy from 1950 onwards, after Mao won and Chiang lost, her refusal to certify China's integrity during the Covid-19 crisis, her return of Chinese PPE as defective and malfunctioning, all have come together to exasperate the leadership in Beijing, and this exasperation seems to have trickled down the ranks and seems to be responsible for much of the bellicosity on display at the borders.
 
@Joe Shearer - have they breached the LAC in areas which they don't claim?
No. There are two different lines at LAC. One is Indian perceived border line and the another one is China perceived border line. Every year both the armies patrol the region criss-crossing each others border lines but this time PLA BDR has crossed Indian perceived line and have put up temperory shelters on their side of border.
 
The Chinese just objected to 2 BJP MPs attending some Taiwan function.
https://www.livemint.com/news/india...in-from-supporting-taiwan-11590286367628.html

And.....?

I know u asked Indians and Chinese to contribute...
...I'm only posting bcuz I have a question that I've been wanting to ask...since I read this news and saw pictures(in another thread)...
My question is that the Chinese military seems encamped in a valley which in the pictures looks surrounded by ridges and mountains(hence why it's a valley). Wouldn't it be super hard to defend that area? Wouldn't securing higher points overlooking the valley be of more strategic value?

IMO I don't think there would be a war...due to various reasons which I will not go in to bcuz that would be a whole other discussion of its own...I'm mainly interested in hearing ppl's thoughts about that question that I'm wondering.

At this point, it is not the defensible nature of the position that matters, only its propaganda value. What is going on is, I believe, known in some circles to the west of where I live as noori kushti. There will be a lot of posturing, some loud bellowed threats, chest puffing, thigh smacking, what General Gul Hassan described as 'eye exercises', and so on. Violence has little or no place in these Peking Opera scenarios.
 
At this point, it is not the defensible nature of the position that matters, only its propaganda value. What is going on is, I believe, known in some circles to the west of where I live as noori kushti. There will be a lot of posturing, some loud bellowed threats, chest puffing, thigh smacking, what General Gul Hassan described as 'eye exercises', and so on. Violence has little or no place in these Peking Opera scenarios.

It makes some of the reactions and "analysis" some of the nincompoops here are doing all the more hillarious tbh.
 
It makes some of the reactions and "analysis" some of the nincompoops here are doing all the more hillarious tbh.

The 'noise' level seems to have gone up substantially in the last two to three days. The amount of ill-concealed glee at what is seen as India's several problems, some defence-related, some national, is surprising. Have these creatures nothing better to do?

Another feature of this noisy background is that almost invariably, it is glee at the prospect of someone else sorting out the auld enemy. It will be China, or it will be Turkey, or it will be the Kashmiri Muslim, or it will be the Muslim Indian.... in brief, everybody but the speaker, with exceptions. There are two heroes who intend to come down and take up arms and win back Kashmir and the whole of northern India single-handed, but are forced to sit idle due to the Covid-19 travel restrictions!! The word bathetic does not translate well, it seems.
 

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