Islamic economic system

[Leader]

now I am starting to believe you sniffed something really nasty

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

now I am starting to believe you sniffed something really nasty

What you believe doesn't matter. You're a nobody.

Your 'Islamic' economic system, though, still doesn't sound anything other than a tweak of the Capitalism in its traditional form.

 

[1 ummah]

well 1 Ummah I am sorry to inform you that taxes are not HARAM. its creation of your own mind I guess. however the role of government in determining the market forces is limited, a sort of free market. but by all means government can collect any tax it feels necessary.

The prophet (&#65018 said;

لا یدخل الجنۃ صاحب المکس

“The one who collect tax will not enter into paradise”[Ahmed, Abu Dawood, Al-Hakim]

And said;

وان صاحب المکس فی النار

“The one who collect tax is in hell fire”[Ahmed]

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

The prophet (&#65018 said;

لا یدخل الجنۃ صاحب المکس

“The one who collect tax will not enter into paradise”[Ahmed, Abu Dawood, Al-Hakim]

And said;

وان صاحب المکس فی النار

“The one who collect tax is in hell fire”[Ahmed]

Ok so you don't collect tax in your 'Islamic' economic system..how then do you generate money?

 

[Leader]

The prophet (&#65018 said;

لا یدخل الجنۃ صاحب المکس

“The one who collect tax will not enter into paradise”[Ahmed, Abu Dawood, Al-Hakim]

And said;

وان صاحب المکس فی النار

“The one who collect tax is in hell fire”[Ahmed]

I will have to consult on that. I NEVER HEARD this. maybe its something else, or maybe I am wrong in my understanding. thanks 1 Ummah

 

[1 ummah]

I don't see how it's very different from Capitalism.

i tell u mr.confusd...OUR islamic SYSTEMS R DIFRNT FROM ALL OTHERS as it is created by creator ov univers,it is not manmade,its linked with the true aqeeda,not based on materialistic gains,but pleasing ALLAH ..OLNY it can maitnain balance in world,therefore ALLAH has commanded us to spread this system,and even if ppl oc non-muslim countries dont accept islam they have to agrre for implementaion of islamic system

 

[1 ummah]

I will have to consult on that. I NEVER HEARD this. maybe its something else, or maybe I am wrong in my understanding. thanks 1 Ummah

most welcome bro

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

i tell u mr.confusd...OUR islamic SYSTEMS R DIFRNT FROM ALL OTHERS as it is created by creator ov univers,it is not manmade,its linked with the true aqeeda,not based on materialistic gains,but pleasing ALLAH ..OLNY it can maitnain balance in world,therefore ALLAH has commanded us to spread this system,and even if ppl oc non-muslim countries dont accept islam they have to agrre for implementaion of islamic system

Very good.

But will it make money? If so, how?

I'm <not> sorry for I'm not interested in your theological lessons.

Tell me about money.

 

[Ahmad]

The prophet (&#65018 said;

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&#8220;The one who collect tax will not enter into paradise&#8221;[Ahmed, Abu Dawood, Al-Hakim]

And said;

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&#8220;The one who collect tax is in hell fire&#8221;[Ahmed]

so what is the difference between ushr, jizia, zakat etc, they are all taxes with different names.

 

[1 ummah]

Ok so you don't collect tax in your 'Islamic' economic system..how then do you generate money?

soon u will see,as islamic state is not so far

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

soon u will see,as islamic state is not so far

Is that the best you can come up with?

 

[1 ummah]

btti janay wali hai tel u later

 

[Leader]

so what is the difference between ushr, jizia, zakat etc, they are all taxes with different names.

tax is for government expenses, while Zakat is collected for poor. and Jaziya is for protecting and wellfare of the non muslim community. I hope that explains the differnece.

 

[Kompromat]

Ok, so who is going to implement this?

Who is going to uphold this system in such an environment?

Can this work in such a globalized economy?

Will the system change the people or the people need to bring the change themsleves?

Many questions.

We Pakistanis SUCK big time when it comes to developing and nurturing ideas , Islamic economic system is a gold mine but we need to get economists , scholars , researchers on board to get a comprehensive research done on this issue & then we will need a right political leadership who has the will to implement this system.

Billi kay galay main ghanti kon bandhay ?

 

[jayron]

It can work if you have petrol. Not otherwise.