Why is Pakistan afraid of international perception when testing its ICBM?

[RazPaK]

I absolutely love US because of the way they treat people - and it really is a free country based on a strong foundation. Its a role model if you want to ever emulate a country and how to treat your own citizens with respect and dignity.

Having said that their policies leaves much to be desired. I cannot understand those - and it defies logic sometimes....

While I agree with you, that level of *** kissing is intolerable. I can provide examples.

 

[Developereo]

We need to be able to flatten Israel in the event that US ever gets fruity with us. AIPAC have made damn sure an attack on Tel Aviv is as good as an attack on Washington

Exactly right.

The US can obliterate Pakistan's military capability without breaking a sweat. The only deterrence is to make it crystal clear that, if they miss even one single nuke, it WILL detonate in Tel Aviv.

When you can credibly threaten the master, the bulldog will stay put.

 

[anathema]

Doesn't really matter if we have support or not; but ICBMs are extremely important in making sure something like that doesn't happen.

ICBM or SLBM or not - the technological gap that US has over nations is too big. Rest assured if things go bad and if there is a war between US and Pak - presence of ICBM with you will be least of their concerns !

 

[DRaisinHerald]

ICBM or SLBM or not - the technological gap that US has over nations is too big. Rest assured if things go bad and if there is a war between US and Pak - presence of ICBM with you will be least of their concerns !

True that, they'll be too busy making sure Zion doesn't cease to be

 

[RazPaK]

ICBM or SLBM or not - the technological gap that US has over nations is too big. Rest assured if things go bad and if there is a war between US and Pak - presence of ICBM with you will be least of their concerns !

If the US would attack Pakistan, sure they could win the war, but at what cost?


They would do more than shooting themselves in the foot. That is exactly why they will never go to war with Pakistan.

 

[anathema]

While I agree with you, that level of *** kissing is intolerable. I can provide examples.

You can quote n number of examples - hell i can give you examples right from descrimination to what not that happens in US...name one nation which does not have those. Every nation will have problems (even scandinavian ones ) - they just have to deal with it.

Point is - Citizens have the right to fight back and institutions support it. So if there is injustice you can fight out if you want. and more often than not - if you are true and right you will be rewarded.

 

[RazPaK]

You can quote n number of examples - hell i can give you examples right from descrimination to what not that happens in US...name one nation which does not have those. Every nation will have problems (even scandinavian ones ) - they just have to deal with it.

Point is - Citizens have the right to fight back and institutions support it. So if there is injustice you can fight out if you want. and more often than not - if you are true and right you will be rewarded.

I agree with you 80%.

 

[Developereo]

we vaporize Palestine along with Israel and half of the Arab world dies of radiation poisoning

The yield can be chosen to limit the destruction zone, but the radiation would be an issue.

 

[Peregrine]

ICBM or SLBM or not - the technological gap that US has over nations is too big. Rest assured if things go bad and if there is a war between US and Pak - presence of ICBM with you will be least of their concerns !

Says you only.......... I guess that is why, USA is losing it's head over Iranian and Korean nuclear programs?
USA might have advanced technology, but they are not ''out of this world'', as you indians portray them to be.

 

[anathema]

If the US would attack Pakistan, sure they could win the war, but at what cost?


They would do more than shooting themselves in the foot. That is exactly why they will never go to war with Pakistan.

No you dont understand ! If and big If US ever decides to go on a war with you (i dont think it will happen) - it will start with media information where American public's emotions and mindset will be molded to accept losses , it will paint you in a picture..and then the war will start.

Once you have American public support then nothing will stop them from coming to get you...and i said the technological advantage that US is too great - In short - they wont have any problems in dealing with you or any country. They will have problems definetly once they have boots on the ground in Pakistan - as has been shown in history (Viet , Af, Iraq)

 

[Icarus]

Kakgeta ..

Technologies such as ICBM does not materialize on just current threats - these technologies are also developed keeping in find about all possible future threats for whatever reasons.

So the point is inspite of not sharing a border and not having a conflict with Israel - does your policy makers view Israel as a possible threat ? General sentiments across this forum is generally anti israel and there is definetly no love lost when it comes to Israel and you. Can these emotions influence your policy makers - Pakistan has known to make some choices in the past which has defied logic. Based on what i know - Pakistani's do consider Israel a threat.

So doesnt that justify the development of ICBM ?

In betn great posts - pleasure to read.

Israel is an ideological adversary, however, the chances of war with the Israelis are negligible. Back channel diplomacy has helped diffuse much of the tension between our countries and both countries are not a threat to each other. Let's face it, both of us have more enemies than we need, the last thing we would want is to start another rivalry, another arms race. That's why Israel was sceptical about a raid on Pakistan's nuclear facilities, it would mean that all gloves are off.

 

[fd24]

Exactly right.

The US can obliterate Pakistan's military capability without breaking a sweat. The only deterrence is to make it crystal clear that, if they miss even one single nuke, it WILL detonate in Tel Aviv.

When you can credibly threaten the master, the bulldog will stay put.

and when the bulldog knows this - common sense will prevail and they will be deterred in attacking us. The thought of Tel Aviv always been within stricking distance has kept them at bay. Its great to have nukes - cant wait for Iran to achieve the same status.

 

[RazPaK]

No you dont understand ! If and big If US ever decides to go on a war with you (i dont think it will happen) - it will start with media information where American public's emotions and mindset will be molded to accept losses , it will paint you in a picture..and then the war will start.

Once you have American public support then nothing will stop them from coming to get you...and i said the technological advantage that US is too great - In short - they wont have any problems in dealing with you or any country. They will have problems definetly once they have boots on the ground in Pakistan - as has been shown in history (Viet , Af, Iraq)

They would only start the propaganda war, if the circumstances were favorable. At this point and afterwards, the circumstances will never be favorable for them.

 

[Icarus]

US forces killed 25 of your soldiers in cold blood........US forces penetrated your airspace all the way to Abbotabad, killed BinLaden and left........US regularly kills your civilians when and wherever it pleases ....

Pakistan has done nothing and can't do nothing about it....... What makes you think there is going to be a world war if US decided to up the ante and go for a clear strike on you???

Waiting for China to come to your rescue?

That's the second pathetic attempt at trolling I've seen come out of you, your line of argument has been addressed and rebutted.

 

[anathema]

Says you only.......... I guess that is why, USA is losing it's head over Iranian and Korean nuclear programs?
USA might have advanced technology, but they are not ''out of this world'', as you indians portray them to be.

Its not me only - its world over.

Iranian and Korean - please think before posting. US is absolutely not threatned by these punny regimes. Their allies are coming in cross hairs which is prompting US to take some action..

And also the fact that assymetric warfare is always a concern.. However if there is outright war - then these nations will be oblirated .