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Aurangzeb, as he was according to Mughal Records

And pakistani...you are muslim and zakat is one of your five pillars..so you pay...why the hell should non-muslims pay jaziya to muslims ?? how the hell is that better than the bhatta MQM collects in the streets of karachi ?

jaziya was the type of tax you pay now to the government. jaziya was used as municpal and security tax. after all the ottoman empire took jaziya and protected the non muslims under its realm.


and best thing about zakat and jaziya is that if implemented social welfare for all is done. a concept that all europeans and indians love to have that was started by MUSLIMS. its ironic how indians would pay tax but if you change the name of tax to jaziya they cry!
 
black period of history??? if you think like this then why is india always trying to make Taj Mahal as the wonder of the world?? why is india trying to act fond of moghulai food?

please don't say that you don't hate muslims and then follow it up by a post saying "dark ages of indian history"!!


You clearly dont know the black history of taj mahal and few says it was hindu temple even.
Yes,islamic invasion was disaster morel likely rather than boon.
 
No one defends British - as Bhairava said they were lesser of the two evils. period. And I can't change history and deny that India was not ruled by British, can I? likewise can you? Both of our ancestors were second class citizens under British but my ancestors were second class citizens under Muslim rule while yours converted and reaped the benefits of the conversion, isn't that the fact?

conversion well i am sorry that your ancestors and neither you are enlightened. but yes our holy book says that there will be people who will be blinded and deaf when the truth is right infront of their eyes.

thank Allah my ancestors were not blinded and deaf to the truth and choose the one true religion. your ancestors were just blinded from the truth sadly for you and them.
 
You clearly dont know the black history of taj mahal and few says it was hindu temple even.
Yes,islamic invasion was disaster morel likely rather than boon.

then disown it totally! why are indians happy to make them tourist spots and bring the world to see it and apply for it to become a wonder of the world?? is it the stockholm syndrome case then? disown the muslim culture & history if you dislike it or just admit it that you hate muslims but you can't deny the good they did to your nation!
 
You clearly dont know the black history of taj mahal and few says it was hindu temple even.
Yes,islamic invasion was disaster morel likely rather than boon.

Black history yet when asked a typical Indian in the West what has India got to offer a tourist...One of the 1st things to come out of the mouth is the Taj?! If it is soo dark, why be so proud? Some form of sadist?
 
Destruction of temples (Somnath 6 times). forceful conversions under the threat of sword, Jaziya and you want us to praise Islamic rule and don't act as if Muslims kings didn't carried out any massacres...much of Delhites was put to sword after Timur sacked Delhi in 1398.

I ask again..what was the contribution of Islamic dynasties to India? and don't say Mutton Kurma.

That phenomena has been falsified by many writers/hostoirans (all non Muslims) who say it was some propaganda and have written nothing but good for the golden age of Islam and have thrown out the records where the conversion by the sword was written! The conversion by the sword was common for the Christians hence, when books about Islam was written the same brutality was thrown in...Yes some dynasties may have been brutal but it is not an generalized concept anymore!

Please read modern books...which gives reviews of research and accounts of more people especially Chinese, Japanese, Arabian and other European accounts! If there is similarities in more than 2 -3 (within the same era but maybe different years) of these and only 1 writes crap...which 1 is right?
 
but yes our holy book says that there will be people who will be blinded and deaf when the truth is right infront of their eyes. thank Allah my ancestors were not blinded and deaf to the truth and choose the one true religion. your ancestors were just blinded from the truth sadly for you and them.
this arrogance that only our faith is true and rest others are false is one of the things i dislike about islam
 
this arrogance that only our faith is true and rest others are false is one of the things i dislike about islam

well ofcourse you can't have 2 gods and 2 religions don't you think? its naive and dumb to believe that two different gods and religions can exist and not argue and fight each other. don't you believe?
 
Again they supported their gora masters when Goa was liberated from the Portuguese.

I have yet to hear a MUSLIM say his master is anyone but ALLAH! Just because someone said some goray are better than you does not make them the masters! Very narrow thinking!

But when you support the secular laws of the GORAY...Does that make you slaves of their laws and them YOUR masters?
 
well ofcourse you can't have 2 gods and 2 religions don't you think? its naive and dumb to believe that two different gods and religions can exist and not argue and fight each other. don't you believe?

although i dont follow the concept of monotheism preached by moses, jesus and muhammad i do believe in their holiness as much as i believe in Ram and Krishna eventhough i am a devout hindu i have prayed in church, mosque and gurudwara and i visit haji ali dargah atleast once a month
 
although i dont follow the concept of monotheism preached by moses, jesus and muhammad i do believe in their holiness as much as i believe in Ram and Krishna eventhough i am a devout hindu i have prayed in church, mosque and gurudwara and i visit haji ali dargah atleast once a month

well i am sorry but all these people can not be all gods now can they? the simple logical explaniation is that they will have a conflict of interest like apparently the mythological greek gods had amongst themselves!

as for musa,isa & Prophet Mohammed S.A.W they were just plain messengers! they were higher than ordinary human beings but after all were human beings and simple messengers of the one true god. that is the essence of belief. ONE AND ONLY GOD! the creator of everything who needs no worldly desires and doesn't need no worldly means.

praying in cnhurch,mosque,gurudwara that you claim to have done who were you praying too???? which god were you praying to?
 
then disown it totally! why are indians happy to make them tourist spots and bring the world to see it and apply for it to become a wonder of the world?? is it the stockholm syndrome case then? disown the muslim culture & history if you dislike it or just admit it that you hate muslims but you can't deny the good they did to your nation!

i m just saying that pls read the history how it was created.

Black history yet when asked a typical Indian in the West what has India got to offer a tourist...One of the 1st things to come out of the mouth is the Taj?! If it is soo dark, why be so proud? Some form of sadist?

obviously structure is beautiful but m talking about history.
 
i m just saying that pls read the history how it was created.



obviously structure is beautiful but m talking about history.

plase don't go around the bush and either say the moghuls did a good job hence we have taken them as OUR own and are proud of it. OR disown them for being evil and then disown the Taj Mahal and the moghulai food and culture!
 
plase don't go around the bush and either say the moghuls did a good job hence we have taken them as OUR own and are proud of it. OR disown them for being evil and then disown the Taj Mahal and the moghulai food and culture!

Moghuls, like most kings, were good and bad.

Good: Taj Mahal, unifying northern India

Bad: Practically everything else (from economy to genocide of hindus)

Take that as you will...
 

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